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To: Michael Oritt <michael.oritt@gmail.com>, Richard Kahn <tahoehealey@hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Healeys] massive oil leak
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If the crankcase was overfilled it might create enough pressure to destroy =
or displace a mechanical seal.

Bill Lawrence
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From: Healeys <healeys-bounces@autox.team.net> on behalf of Michael Oritt <=
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Sent: Friday, October 21, 2022 4:11 AM
To: Richard Kahn <tahoehealey@hotmail.com>
Cc: Ahealey help <healeys@autox.team.net>; i erbs <eyera3000@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Healeys] massive oil leak

Richard--

I asked because--as opposed to the stock "slinger": or archimedes screw--we=
re there a modern lip seal I believe its failure might allow a major oil le=
ak to develop.

Best--Michael Oritt

On Thu, Oct 20, 2022 at 8:12 PM Richard Kahn <tahoehealey@hotmail.com<mailt=
o:tahoehealey@hotmail.com>> wrote:
Years ago someone suggested cleaning up the oil and spraying athletes' foot=
 spray on and watch where is displaces as the oil drips leaving a trail to =
the source. I would imagine that if the added rear seal dislodged, it would=
 not produce more oil than if the rear seal had never been added.
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team.net>> on behalf of Stephen Hutchings via Healeys <healeys@autox.team.n=
Sent: Thursday, October 20, 2022 6:52 PM
Subject: Re: [Healeys] massive oil leak

I know what you mean Michael, but I once had an oil filter leak that spewed=
 out a substantial amount of oil, and a lot of it was left dripping from th=
e engine-gearbox junction. As I initially said, the filter leaks can be har=
d to trace .

Stephen, BJ8

On Oct 20, 2022, at 9:03 PM, Michael Oritt via Healeys <healeys@autox.team.=

I've not been following this string that closely as I have been travelling =
but I thought that the initial posts described the leak as coming from the =
engine-transmission junction and the small hole in the tranny.  If that's t=
he case I don't see how a leak at the oil filter cannister could be the cau=
se.

I wonder if the scroll seal had been replaced by what we call a "proper" re=
ar seal and if it had somehow become dislodged, allowing major amounts of o=
il into the bellhousing and ontio the garage floor?

Best--Michael Oritt

On Thu, Oct 20, 2022 at 5:46 PM Ricchardd Mayor <boyracer466@gmail.com<mail=
to:boyracer466@gmail.com>> wrote:
I did some research awhile back about oil filter leaks and found that there=
 are reports that over-tightening the canister can sometimes damage the sea=
ling O ring  to such an extent that it can cause a substantial oil leak.


Richard Mayor


mail.com>> wrote:

Spray break cleaner all over an d clean up the oil. Fill your block, starts=
 the car, once any pressure shows on your gauge, turn it off. Check for lea=
ks.
I'll bet it's the filter. If canister type, the seal ring must have slipped=
, if spin on conversion, make sure you put a thin coat of oil on the seal a=
nd tighten

On Sat, Oct 15, 2022, 1:10 PM healeymanjim <healeymanjim@hansencc.net<mailt=
o:healeymanjim@hansencc.net>> wrote:
changed oil in a club member's tri carb.   went to get gas and noticed lots=
 of oil under car.  by the time i got back had lost about 4 qts or more of =
oil on a few mile drive.  coming from rear of engine and coming out bottom =
joint and cotter pin hole. was only a small drip before oil change.  assume=
 it is coming from rear main, but could it fail that fast?   any other plac=
es to look?
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If the crankcase was overfilled it might create enough pressure to destroy =
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BN1 #554</div>
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ounces@autox.team.net&gt; on behalf of Michael Oritt &lt;michael.oritt@gmai=
l.com&gt;<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Friday, October 21, 2022 4:11 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> Richard Kahn &lt;tahoehealey@hotmail.com&gt;<br>
<b>Cc:</b> Ahealey help &lt;healeys@autox.team.net&gt;; i erbs &lt;eyera300=
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<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Healeys] massive oil leak</font>
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<div class=3D"x_gmail_default" style=3D"color:#3333ff">Richard--</div>
<div class=3D"x_gmail_default" style=3D"color:#3333ff"><br>
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<div class=3D"x_gmail_default" style=3D"color:#3333ff">I asked because--as =
opposed to the stock &quot;slinger&quot;: or archimedes screw--were there a=
 modern lip seal I believe its&nbsp;failure might allow a major oil leak to=
 develop.&nbsp;</div>
<div class=3D"x_gmail_default" style=3D"color:#3333ff"><br>
</div>
<div class=3D"x_gmail_default" style=3D"color:#3333ff">Best--Michael Oritt<=
/div>
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<div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"x_gmail_attr">On Thu, Oct 20, 2022 at 8:12 PM Ric=
hard Kahn &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:tahoehealey@hotmail.com";>tahoehealey@hotmai=
l.com</a>&gt; wrote:<br>
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or:rgb(0,0,0); background-color:rgb(255,255,255)">
Years ago someone suggested cleaning up the oil and spraying athletes' foot=
 spray on and watch where is displaces as the oil drips leaving a trail to =
the source. I would imagine that if the added rear seal dislodged, it would=
 not produce more oil than if the
 rear seal had never been added.<br>
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> Healeys &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:healeys-bounces@autox.team.net"; target=3D"_=
blank">healeys-bounces@autox.team.net</a>&gt; on behalf
 of Stephen Hutchings via Healeys &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:healeys@autox.team.=
net" target=3D"_blank">healeys@autox.team.net</a>&gt;<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, October 20, 2022 6:52 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Michael Oritt &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:michael.oritt@gmail.com"; tar=
get=3D"_blank">michael.oritt@gmail.com</a>&gt;<br>
<b>Cc:</b> Ahealey help &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:healeys@autox.team.net"; targe=
t=3D"_blank">healeys@autox.team.net</a>&gt;; i erbs &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:e=
yera3000@gmail.com" target=3D"_blank">eyera3000@gmail.com</a>&gt;<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Healeys] massive oil leak</font>
<div>&nbsp;</div>
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<div style=3D"">I know what you mean Michael, but I once had an oil filter =
leak that spewed out a substantial amount of oil, and a lot of it was left =
dripping from the engine-gearbox junction. As I initially said, the filter =
leaks can be hard to trace .
<div><br>
</div>
<div>Stephen, BJ8<br>
<div><br>
<blockquote type=3D"cite">
<div>On Oct 20, 2022, at 9:03 PM, Michael Oritt via Healeys &lt;<a href=3D"=
mailto:healeys@autox.team.net"; target=3D"_blank">healeys@autox.team.net</a>=
&gt; wrote:</div>
<br>
<div>
<div dir=3D"ltr">
<div style=3D"color:rgb(51,51,255)">I've not been following this string tha=
t closely as I have&nbsp;been travelling but I thought that the initial pos=
ts described the leak as coming&nbsp;from the engine-transmission junction =
and the small hole in&nbsp;the tranny.&nbsp; If that's
 the case I don't see how a leak at the oil filter cannister&nbsp;could be =
the cause.</div>
<div style=3D"color:rgb(51,51,255)"><br>
</div>
<div style=3D"color:rgb(51,51,255)">I wonder if the scroll seal had been re=
placed by what we call a &quot;proper&quot; rear seal and if it had somehow=
&nbsp;become dislodged, allowing major amounts of&nbsp;oil into the bellhou=
sing and ontio the garage floor?</div>
<div style=3D"color:rgb(51,51,255)"><br>
</div>
<div style=3D"color:rgb(51,51,255)">Best--Michael Oritt</div>
</div>
<br>
<div>
<div dir=3D"ltr">On Thu, Oct 20, 2022 at 5:46 PM Ricchardd Mayor &lt;<a hre=
f=3D"mailto:boyracer466@gmail.com"; target=3D"_blank">boyracer466@gmail.com<=
/a>&gt; wrote:<br>
</div>
<blockquote style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex; border-left:1px solid rgb(20=
4,204,204); padding-left:1ex">
<div>I did some research awhile back about oil filter leaks and found that =
there are reports that over-tightening the canister can sometimes damage th=
e sealing O ring &nbsp;to such an extent that it can cause a substantial oi=
l leak.
<div><br>
</div>
<div><br>
<div>Richard&nbsp;Mayor<br>
<a href=3D"mailto:boyracer466@gmail.com"; target=3D"_blank">boyracer466@gmai=
l.com</a><br>
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<div dir=3D"auto">Spray break cleaner all over an d clean up the oil. Fill =
your block, starts the car, once any pressure shows on your gauge, turn it =
off. Check for leaks.
<div dir=3D"auto">I'll bet it's the filter. If canister type, the seal ring=
 must have slipped, if spin on conversion, make sure you put a thin coat of=
 oil on the seal and tighten</div>
</div>
<br>
<div>
<div dir=3D"ltr">On Sat, Oct 15, 2022, 1:10 PM healeymanjim &lt;<a href=3D"=
mailto:healeymanjim@hansencc.net"; target=3D"_blank">healeymanjim@hansencc.n=
et</a>&gt; wrote:<br>
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changed oil in a club member's tri carb.&nbsp; &nbsp;went to get gas and no=
ticed lots of oil under car.&nbsp; by the time i got back had lost about 4 =
qts or more of oil on a few mile drive.&nbsp; coming from rear of engine an=
d coming out bottom joint and cotter pin hole. was only
 a small drip before oil change.&nbsp; assume it is coming from rear main, =
but could it fail that fast?&nbsp; &nbsp;any other places to look?<br>
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