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Hi Jeff,
=20
Yes, the tank ist he highest point of the system.
To remove the air from block and head I take out the temperature probe =
at the thermostat housing and let the water climb until it comes out and =
put then back the probe.
=20
Cheers
Chris
=20
Von: Jeffrey De Pol [mailto:dep1505@yahoo.com]=20
Gesendet: Montag, 11. Juli 2016 07:20
An: 'MadMarx'; 'FOT List'
Betreff: Re: [Fot] TR8 Water temperature
=20
Hi Chris,
=20
Is your expansion tank the highest point of your cooling system? You =
stated that the expansion tank has a connection to the top of the =
radiator to remove air from the system. However, the radiator is not the =
highest point of the system. I'm not sure what intake manifold you are =
running, but you should have a line that runs from just behind the =
thermostat housing (on top of the intake manifold), to the top of the =
expansion tank. This allows trapped air in the system to bleed out into =
the expansion tank. If you are running an Edelbrock Performer intake =
manifold, you will have to drill and tap a hole into the top of the =
manifold for a hose nipple.=20
=20
Hope this helps,
=20
-Jeff De Pol.
=20
On Sunday, July 10, 2016 2:51 PM, Spitfire Racing =
<spitfire_racing@twcny.rr.com> wrote:
=20
Easiest way to confirm a water gauge is to immerse the sensor in boiling =
water which is a known temperature as a reference.
=20
=20
=20
From: Fot [mailto:fot-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Bill Tobin
Sent: Friday, July 08, 2016 9:25 PM
To: MadMarx; 'FOT List'
Subject: Re: [Fot] TR8 Water temperature
=20
I hate to ask Chris, but I've seen this before: are you sure your gauges =
are accurate? I saw this problem on a well known car a while back.
Electrical or mechanical?
Could be worth checking.
Good luck.
Bill
----- Original Message -----=20
Sent: Thursday, July 07, 2016 1:20 PM
Subject: [Fot] TR8 Water temperature
=20
Hi guys,
=20
My TR8 is running way too hot about 212F at full speed and at idle the =
temps are getting that high also. I have no idea to get them down.
Radiator core is 68x48cm x 5 cm. I suppose that should be enough. I've =
experiment with different restrictor plates with no change. Changing =
pump speed didn't help either. The difference between radiator in and =
outlet is 10=C2=B0C (50F). Not enough I would say. Maybe making the pump =
more slower? It was running on a ratio of 0.8 slower than crank, =
currently 1:1 speed. Any ideas? 10 Liters are circulating.
=20
Cheers
Chris
_____ =20
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fot@autox.team.net
http://www.fot-racing.com <http://www.fot-racing.com/>=20
Archive: http://www.team.net/archive
http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/william.tobin31@verizon.net
=20
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Archive: http://www.team.net/archive
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style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:#1F497=
D'>Hi Jeff,<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:#1F497=
D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:#1F497=
D'>Yes, the tank ist he highest point of the =
system.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:#1F497=
D'>To remove the air from block and head I take out the temperature =
probe at the thermostat housing and let the water climb until it comes =
out and put then back the probe.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:#1F497=
D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:#1F497=
D'>Cheers<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:#1F497=
D'>Chris<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:#1F497=
D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div =
style=3D'border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm =
0cm 0cm'><p class=3DMsoNormal><b><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>Von:</span><=
/b><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> =
Jeffrey De Pol [mailto:dep1505@yahoo.com] <br><b>Gesendet:</b> Montag, =
11. Juli 2016 07:20<br><b>An:</b> 'MadMarx'; 'FOT =
List'<br><b>Betreff:</b> Re: [Fot] TR8 Water =
temperature<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><div =
id=3D"yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1468207101622_56566"><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'background:white'><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'>Hi =
Chris,<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div =
id=3D"yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1468207101622_56309"><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'background:white'><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p> </o=
:p></span></p></div><div id=3D"yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1468207101622_58540"><p =
class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'background:white'><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'>Is your =
expansion tank the highest point of your cooling system? You stated that =
the expansion tank has a connection to the top of the radiator to remove =
air from the system. However, the radiator is not the highest point of =
the system. I'm not sure what intake manifold you are running, but you =
should have a line that runs from just behind the thermostat housing (on =
top of the intake manifold), to the top of the expansion tank. This =
allows trapped air in the system to bleed out into the expansion tank. =
If you are running an Edelbrock Performer intake manifold, you will have =
to drill and tap a hole into the top of the manifold for a hose nipple. =
<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div =
id=3D"yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1468207101622_58749"><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'background:white'><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p> </o=
:p></span></p></div><div id=3D"yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1468207101622_59125"><p =
class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'background:white'><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'>Hope this =
helps,<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div =
id=3D"yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1468207101622_58748"><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'background:white'><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p> </o=
:p></span></p></div><div id=3D"yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1468207101622_58722"><p =
class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'background:white'><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'>-Jeff De =
Pol.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'margin-bottom:12.0pt;background:white'><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p> </o=
:p></span></p></div><div><div><div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'background:white'><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>O=
n Sunday, July 10, 2016 2:51 PM, Spitfire Racing <<a =
href=3D"mailto:spitfire_racing@twcny.rr.com";>spitfire_racing@twcny.rr.com=
</a>> wrote:</span><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p></o:p></s=
pan></p></div><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'margin-bottom:12.0pt;background:white'><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p> </o=
:p></span></p><div><div id=3Dyiv3547855755><div><div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'background:white'><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:blac=
k'>Easiest way to confirm a water gauge is to immerse the sensor in =
boiling water which is a known temperature as a reference.</span><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p></o:p></s=
pan></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'background:white'><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:blac=
k'> </span><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p></o:p></s=
pan></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'background:white'><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:blac=
k'> </span><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p></o:p></s=
pan></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'background:white'><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:blac=
k'> </span><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p></o:p></s=
pan></p></div><div id=3Dyiv3547855755yqt95728><div><div =
style=3D'border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm =
0cm 0cm'><div><p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'background:white'><b><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:blac=
k'>From:</span></b><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:blac=
k'> Fot [<a =
href=3D"mailto:fot-bounces@autox.team.net";>mailto:fot-bounces@autox.team.=
net</a>] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Bill Tobin<br><b>Sent:</b> Friday, July 08, =
2016 9:25 PM<br><b>To:</b> MadMarx; 'FOT List'<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: =
[Fot] TR8 Water temperature</span><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p></o:p></s=
pan></p></div></div></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'background:white'><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'> <o:p></o=
:p></span></p></div><div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'background:white'><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:blac=
k'>I hate to ask Chris, but I've seen this before: are you sure your =
gauges are accurate? I saw this problem on a well known car a while =
back.</span><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p></o:p></s=
pan></p></div></div><div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'background:white'><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:blac=
k'>Electrical or mechanical?</span><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p></o:p></s=
pan></p></div></div><div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'background:white'><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:blac=
k'>Could be worth checking.</span><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p></o:p></s=
pan></p></div></div><div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'background:white'><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:blac=
k'>Good luck.</span><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p></o:p></s=
pan></p></div></div><div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'background:white'><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:blac=
k'>Bill</span><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p></o:p></s=
pan></p></div></div><blockquote style=3D'border:none;border-left:solid =
black 1.5pt;padding:0cm 0cm 0cm =
3.0pt;margin-left:3.0pt;margin-top:5.0pt;margin-right:0cm;margin-bottom:5=
.0pt'><div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'background:white'><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:blac=
k'>----- Original Message ----- </span><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p></o:p></s=
pan></p></div></div><div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'background:#E4E4E4'><b><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:blac=
k'>From:</span></b><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:blac=
k'> <a href=3D"mailto:tr4racing@googlemail.com"; target=3D"_blank" =
title=3D"tr4racing@googlemail.com">MadMarx</a> </span><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p></o:p></s=
pan></p></div></div><div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'background:white'><b><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:blac=
k'>To:</span></b><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:blac=
k'> <a href=3D"mailto:fot@autox.team.net"; target=3D"_blank" =
title=3D"fot@autox.team.net">'FOT List'</a> </span><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p></o:p></s=
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k'> Thursday, July 07, 2016 1:20 PM</span><span =
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k'>Subject:</span></b><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:blac=
k'> [Fot] TR8 Water temperature</span><span =
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style=3D'background:white'><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:blac=
k'>Hi guys,</span><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p></o:p></s=
pan></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'background:white'><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:blac=
k'> </span><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p></o:p></s=
pan></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'background:white'><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:blac=
k'>My TR8 is running way too hot about 212F at full speed and at idle =
the temps are getting that high also. I have no idea to get them =
down.<br>Radiator core is 68x48cm x 5 cm. I suppose that should be =
enough. I've experiment with different restrictor plates with no change. =
Changing pump speed didn't help either. The difference between radiator =
in and outlet is 10=C2=B0C (50F). Not enough I would say. Maybe making =
the pump more slower? It was running on a ratio of 0.8 slower than =
crank, currently 1:1 speed. Any ideas? 10 Liters are =
circulating.</span><span =
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k'>Cheers</span><span =
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