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Re: [Fot] TR8 Water temperature

To: "'Gary Klein'" <tr6.guy@verizon.net>, "'FOT List'" <fot@autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: [Fot] TR8 Water temperature
From: MadMarx <tr4racing@googlemail.com>
Date: Sun, 10 Jul 2016 16:27:52 +0200
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Gary,

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the bypass is plugged and not needed on this car.

=20

Cheers

Chris

=20

Von: Gary Klein [mailto:tr6.guy@verizon.net]=20
Gesendet: Sonntag, 10. Juli 2016 13:40
An: 'FOT List' <fot@autox.team.net>
Cc: 'MadMarx' <tr4racing@googlemail.com>
Betreff: RE: [Fot] TR8 Water temperature

=20

Chris,

=20

My street TR8 had a heating problem that I discovered was caused by a =
bad gasket at the water pump.  The PO had installed a new pump but the =
gasket did not have a hole for the bypass line.  It always ran hot and =
coolant would blow past the cap.  Also, there were a bunch of pumps made =
overseas that did not even have the bypass hole cast into the pump.  =
Maybe you have this situation, too?

Gary

=20

From: Fot [mailto:fot-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of MadMarx
Sent: Saturday, July 9, 2016 11:07 AM
To: 'Greg Blake'; 'MadMarx'
Cc: 'FOT List'
Subject: Re: [Fot] TR8 Water temperature

=20

The cap is a 23 psi cap.

I have an expansion tank which is plumbed at the sucktion side of the =
lower pump hose and has a 2nd connection at the top of the radiator to =
remove air from the system.

I don=E2=80=99t understand the air flow question. The car has an inlet =
on front, and an airbox around the radiator to force the air through.

=20

=20

Von: Greg Blake [mailto:gblake58tr3@icloud.com]=20
Gesendet: Samstag, 9. Juli 2016 15:49
>
Betreff: Re: [Fot] TR8 Water temperature

=20

questions.=20

What pressure are you running?

Do you have a pressurized expansion tank plumed into the system that =
takes water from the back of one of the heads then recirculates to the =
pump?

What kind of air flow are you getting through the radiator?

Sent from my iPhone


On Jul 7, 2016, at 12:20 PM, MadMarx <tr4racing@googlemail.com =

Hi guys,

=20

My TR8 is running way too hot about 212F at full speed and at idle the =
temps are getting that high also. I have no idea to get them down.
Radiator core is 68x48cm x 5 cm. I suppose that should be enough. I've =
experiment with different restrictor plates with no change. Changing =
pump speed didn't help either. The difference between radiator in and =
outlet is 10=C2=B0C (50F). Not enough I would say. Maybe making the pump =
more slower? It was running on a ratio of 0.8 slower than crank, =
currently 1:1 speed. Any ideas? 10 Liters are circulating.

=20

Cheers

Chris

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style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;mso-fareast-la=
nguage:EN-US'>Gary,<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;mso-fareast-la=
nguage:EN-US'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;mso-fareast-la=
nguage:EN-US'>the bypass is plugged and not needed on this =
car.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;mso-fareast-la=
nguage:EN-US'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;mso-fareast-la=
nguage:EN-US'>Cheers<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;mso-fareast-la=
nguage:EN-US'>Chris<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><a =
name=3D"_MailEndCompose"><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;mso-fareast-la=
nguage:EN-US'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></a></p><span =
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style=3D'border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm =
0cm 0cm'><p class=3DMsoNormal><b><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>Von:</span></=
b><span style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'> =
Gary Klein [mailto:tr6.guy@verizon.net] <br><b>Gesendet:</b> Sonntag, =
10. Juli 2016 13:40<br><b>An:</b> 'FOT List' =
&lt;fot@autox.team.net&gt;<br><b>Cc:</b> 'MadMarx' =
&lt;tr4racing@googlemail.com&gt;<br><b>Betreff:</b> RE: [Fot] TR8 Water =
temperature<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'>Chris,<o:p></o:=
p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:=
p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'>My street TR8 =
had a heating problem that I discovered was caused by a bad gasket at =
the water pump.&nbsp; The PO had installed a new pump but the gasket did =
not have a hole for the bypass line.&nbsp; It always ran hot and coolant =
would blow past the cap.&nbsp; Also, there were a bunch of pumps made =
overseas that did not even have the bypass hole cast into the =
pump.&nbsp; Maybe you have this situation, too?<o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'>Gary<o:p></o:p>=
</span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:=
p></span></p><div><div style=3D'border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF =
1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm 0cm 0cm'><p class=3DMsoNormal><b><span =
lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif'>From:</span></=
b><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif'> Fot [<a =
href=3D"mailto:fot-bounces@autox.team.net";>mailto:fot-bounces@autox.team.=
net</a>] <b>On Behalf Of </b>MadMarx<br><b>Sent:</b> Saturday, July 9, =
2016 11:07 AM<br><b>To:</b> 'Greg Blake'; 'MadMarx'<br><b>Cc:</b> 'FOT =
List'<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Fot] TR8 Water =
temperature<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
lang=3DEN-US><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>The cap is a =
23 psi cap.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>I have an =
expansion tank which is plumbed at the sucktion side of the lower pump =
hose and has a 2<sup>nd</sup> connection at the top of the radiator to =
remove air from the system.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>I =
don=E2=80=99t understand the air flow question. The car has an inlet on =
front, and an airbox around the radiator to force the air =
through.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'><o:p>&nbsp;</=
o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'><o:p>&nbsp;</=
o:p></span></p><div><div style=3D'border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 =
1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm 0cm 0cm'><p class=3DMsoNormal><b><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>Von:</span></=
b><span style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'> =
Greg Blake [<a =
href=3D"mailto:gblake58tr3@icloud.com";>mailto:gblake58tr3@icloud.com</a>]=
 <br><b>Gesendet:</b> Samstag, 9. Juli 2016 15:49<br><b>An:</b> MadMarx =
&lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:tr4racing@googlemail.com";>tr4racing@googlemail.com</a>&gt;=
<br><b>Betreff:</b> Re: [Fot] TR8 Water =
temperature<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>questions.&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></p></div><div =
id=3DAppleMailSignature><p class=3DMsoNormal>What pressure are you =
running?<o:p></o:p></p></div><div id=3DAppleMailSignature><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>Do you have a pressurized expansion tank plumed into =
the system that takes water from the back of one of the heads then =
recirculates to the pump?<o:p></o:p></p></div><div =
id=3DAppleMailSignature><p class=3DMsoNormal>What kind of air flow are =
you getting through the radiator?<br><br>Sent from my =
iPhone<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'margin-bottom:12.0pt'><br>On Jul 7, 2016, at 12:20 PM, MadMarx =
&lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:tr4racing@googlemail.com";>tr4racing@googlemail.com</a>&gt;=
 wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div><blockquote =
style=3D'margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><div><div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'=
>Hi guys,</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'=
>&nbsp;</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'=
>My TR8 is running way too hot about 212F at full speed and at idle the =
temps are getting that high also. I have no idea to get them =
down.<br>Radiator core is 68x48cm x 5 cm. I suppose that should be =
enough. I've experiment with different restrictor plates with no change. =
Changing pump speed didn't help either. The difference between radiator =
in and outlet is 10=C2=B0C (50F). Not enough I would say. Maybe making =
the pump more slower? It was running on a ratio of 0.8 slower than =
crank, currently 1:1 speed. </span><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'=
>Any ideas? 10 Liters are circulating.</span><o:p></o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'=
>&nbsp;</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'=
>Cheers</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'=
>Chris</span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div></div></blockquote><blockquote =
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