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Chris your the engineer....
Heat produced vs heat removed. There will be a steady state at some point.=
You would like it lower. Don"t underestimate the headgasket component o=
f channeling coolant flow. In the TR4 motor i made the coolant holes diffe=
rent than original to allow the mass flow of water to occur from the rear o=
f the motor forward. I also put a pressure gauge on my coolant. If the p=
ressure is too low it will not cool as efficiently either. I don"t know wh=
at the coolant dwell time with in the head needs to be to in order to adso=
rb the heat generated. Nor the dwell time in the radiator. There certainl=
y calcs for all this stuff. =20
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MDunst
Headgasket.com
626.628.3777 F
Triple R Munitions, Inc
626.201.9471 T
FFL 6,7 SOT 2
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-----Original Message-----
From: MadMarx <tr4racing@googlemail.com>
To: 'Marcel Van Mulders' <van.mulders.marcel@telenet.be>; 'MadMarx' <tr4rac=
ing@googlemail.com>
Cc: fot <fot@autox.team.net>
Sent: Sat, Jul 9, 2016 8:21 pm
Subject: Re: [Fot] TR8 Water temperature
I have a 160F thermostat installed.
Next test will be without any restrictions, maximum flow and see how it goe=
s with that.
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Chris
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Von: Marcel Van Mulders [mailto:van.mulders.marcel@telenet.be]=20
Gesendet: Samstag, 9. Juli 2016 13:01
An: 'MadMarx' <tr4racing@googlemail.com>
Cc: fot@autox.team.net
Betreff: RE: [Fot] TR8 Water temperature
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My diesel BMW runs always at 100=C2=B0C/212=C2=B0F when hot. What coolant t=
hermostat is in it? If the T=C2=B0 is steady at 212=C2=B0F, perhaps it is =
intentionally done so with a 212=C2=B0 thermostat.
Marcel
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Van: Fot [mailto:fot-bounces@autox.team.net] Namens MadMarx
Verzonden: donderdag 7 juli 2016 19:21
Aan: 'FOT List'
Onderwerp: [Fot] TR8 Water temperature
Hi guys,
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My TR8 is running way too hot about 212F at full speed and at idle the temp=
s are getting that high also. I have no idea to get them down.
Radiator core is 68x48cm x 5 cm. I suppose that should be enough. I've expe=
riment with different restrictor plates with no change. Changing pump speed=
didn't help either. The difference between radiator in and outlet is 10=C2=
=B0C (50F). Not enough I would say. Maybe making the pump more slower? It w=
as running on a ratio of 0.8 slower than crank, currently 1:1 speed. Any id=
eas? 10 Liters are circulating.
=20
Cheers
Chris
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<div> <font size=3D"2">Chris your the engineer....<br>
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Heat produced vs heat removed. There will be a steady state at some p=
oint. You would like it lower. Don"t underestimate the headgas=
ket component of channeling coolant flow. In the TR4 motor i made the=
coolant holes different than original to allow the mass flow of water to o=
ccur from the rear of the motor forward. I also put a pressure =
gauge on my coolant. If the pressure is too low it will not cool as e=
fficiently either. I don"t know what the coolant dwell time wit=
h in the head needs to be to in order to adsorb the heat generated. N=
or the dwell time in the radiator. There certainly calcs for all this=
stuff. <br>
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<div style=3D"clear:both">MDunst<br>
Headgasket.com<font size=3D"2"></font><br>
626.628.3777 F<br>
Triple R Munitions, Inc<br>
626.201.9471 T<br>
FFL 6,7 SOT 2<br>
<br>
<br>
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From: MadMarx <tr4racing@googlemail.com><br>
To: 'Marcel Van Mulders' <van.mulders.marcel@telenet.be>; 'MadMarx' &=
lt;tr4racing@googlemail.com><br>
Cc: fot <fot@autox.team.net><br>
Sent: Sat, Jul 9, 2016 8:21 pm<br>
Subject: Re: [Fot] TR8 Water temperature<br>
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a 160F thermostat installed.</span></div>
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Calibri",sans-serif;mso-fareast-language:EN-US" lang=3D"EN-US">Next te=
st will be without any restrictions, maximum flow and see how it goes with =
that.</span></div>
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;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"> Marcel Van Mulders [<a href=
=3D"mailto:van.mulders.marcel@telenet.be?";>mailto:van.mulders.marcel@telene=
t.be</a>] <br>
<b>Gesendet:</b> Samstag, 9. Juli 2016 13:01<br>
<b>An:</b> 'MadMarx' <<a href=3D"mailto:tr4racing@googlemail.com";>tr4rac=
ing@googlemail.com</a>><br>
<b>Cc:</b> <a href=3D"mailto:fot@autox.team.net";>fot@autox.team.net</a><br>
<b>Betreff:</b> RE: [Fot] TR8 Water temperature</span></div>
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<div class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"=
Arial",sans-serif;color:blue">My diesel BMW runs always at 100=C2=B0C/=
212=C2=B0F when hot. What coolant thermostat is in it? If the T=C2=B0 is st=
eady at 212=C2=B0F, perhaps it is intentionally done so with a 212=C2=
=B0 thermostat.</span></div>
<div class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"=
Arial",sans-serif;color:blue">Marcel</span></div>
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ans-serif" lang=3D"NL"> Fot [<a target=3D"_blank" href=3D"mailto:fot-bounce=
s@autox.team.net">mailto:fot-bounces@autox.team.net</a>] <b>Namens </b>MadM=
arx<br>
<b>Verzonden:</b> donderdag 7 juli 2016 19:21<br>
<b>Aan:</b> 'FOT List'<br>
<b>Onderwerp:</b> [Fot] TR8 Water temperature</span><span lang=3D"NL"></spa=
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<div class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"=
Verdana",sans-serif;color:#1F497D" lang=3D"EN-US">My TR8 is running wa=
y too hot about 212F at full speed and at idle the temps are getting that h=
igh also. I have no idea to get them down.<br>
Radiator core is 68x48cm x 5 cm. I suppose that should be enough. I've expe=
riment with different restrictor plates with no change. Changing pump speed=
didn't help either. The difference between radiator in and outlet is 10=C2=
=B0C (50F). Not enough I would say. Maybe making the pump more slower? It w=
as running on a ratio of 0.8 slower than crank, currently 1:1 speed. </span=
><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif=
;color:#1F497D">Any ideas? 10 Liters are circulating.</span></div>
<div class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"=
Verdana",sans-serif;color:#1F497D"> </span></div>
<div class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"=
Verdana",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">Cheers</span></div>
<div class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"=
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