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Hi Justin,
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water wetter is only a cure for symptoms but not removing the cause.
I would like to find the cause before trying things.
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Cheers
Chris
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Von: J W [mailto:4msonset@gmail.com]=20
Gesendet: Sonntag, 10. Juli 2016 07:24
An: Bill Tobin <william.tobin31@verizon.net>
Cc: MadMarx <tr4racing@googlemail.com>; FOT List <fot@autox.team.net>
Betreff: Re: [Fot] TR8 Water temperature
=20
I can't speak to its use for racing, but I swear by this stuff. I used =
in in my street TR4A for years and any vehicles I've owned that ran a =
little hot, etc.
Red Line Synthetic Oil - WaterWetter=C2=AE Coolant Additives
http://www.redlineoil.com/Products.aspx?pcid=3D10
Interested to hear others on it especially relative to racing.
=20
I did own a TR8 for a few months. I recall it ran hot and it frustrated =
the hell out of me in general. (Water Wetter wasn't on the market =
then.) I scraped my knuckles one too many times under that hood. It =
was so cramped compared to my prior TR7 and TR4A. I decided it wasn't =
did me! So I never discovered why if was running hot. (All street =
cars)
=20
--Justin
=20
=20
On Jul 8, 2016, at 6:25 PM, Bill Tobin <william.tobin31@verizon.net =
I hate to ask Chris, but I've seen this before: are you sure your gauges =
are accurate? I saw this problem on a well known car a while back.
Electrical or mechanical?
Could be worth checking.
Good luck.
Bill
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Sent: Thursday, July 07, 2016 1:20 PM
Subject: [Fot] TR8 Water temperature
=20
Hi guys,
=20
My TR8 is running way too hot about 212F at full speed and at idle the =
temps are getting that high also. I have no idea to get them down.
Radiator core is 68x48cm x 5 cm. I suppose that should be enough. I've =
experiment with different restrictor plates with no change. Changing =
pump speed didn't help either. The difference between radiator in and =
outlet is 10=C2=B0C (50F). Not enough I would say. Maybe making the pump =
more slower? It was running on a ratio of 0.8 slower than crank, =
currently 1:1 speed. Any ideas? 10 Liters are circulating.
=20
Cheers
Chris
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lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;mso-fareast-la=
nguage:EN-US'>Hi Justin,<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;mso-fareast-la=
nguage:EN-US'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;mso-fareast-la=
nguage:EN-US'>water wetter is only a cure for symptoms but not removing =
the cause.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;mso-fareast-la=
nguage:EN-US'>I would like to find the cause before trying =
things.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;mso-fareast-la=
nguage:EN-US'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;mso-fareast-la=
nguage:EN-US'>Cheers<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;mso-fareast-la=
nguage:EN-US'>Chris<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;mso-fareast-la=
nguage:EN-US'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><a =
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0cm 0cm'><p class=3DMsoNormal><b><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>Von:</span></=
b><span style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'> J W =
[mailto:4msonset@gmail.com] <br><b>Gesendet:</b> Sonntag, 10. Juli 2016 =
07:24<br><b>An:</b> Bill Tobin =
<william.tobin31@verizon.net><br><b>Cc:</b> MadMarx =
<tr4racing@googlemail.com>; FOT List =
<fot@autox.team.net><br><b>Betreff:</b> Re: [Fot] TR8 Water =
temperature<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal>I =
can't speak to its use for racing, but I swear by this stuff. I =
used in in my street TR4A for years and any vehicles I've owned that ran =
a little hot, etc.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><br><br><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>Red Line Synthetic Oil - WaterWetter=C2=AE Coolant =
Additives<br><a =
href=3D"http://www.redlineoil.com/Products.aspx?pcid=3D10";>http://www.red=
lineoil.com/Products.aspx?pcid=3D10</a><o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><p=
class=3DMsoNormal><br><br><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>Interested to hear others on it especially relative to =
racing.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal>I =
did own a TR8 for a few months. I recall it ran hot and it =
frustrated the hell out of me in general. (Water Wetter wasn't on =
the market then.) I scraped my knuckles one too many times under =
that hood. It was so cramped compared to my prior TR7 and TR4A. =
I decided it wasn't did me! So I never discovered why if was =
running hot. (All street cars)<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>--Justin<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'margin-bottom:12.0pt'><br>On Jul 8, 2016, at 6:25 PM, Bill =
Tobin <<a =
href=3D"mailto:william.tobin31@verizon.net";>william.tobin31@verizon.net</=
a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div><blockquote =
style=3D'margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'>I hate to ask =
Chris, but I've seen this before: are you sure your gauges are accurate? =
I saw this problem on a well known car a while =
back.</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'>Electrical or =
mechanical?</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'>Could be worth =
checking.</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'>Good =
luck.</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'>Bill</span><o:p=
></o:p></p></div><blockquote style=3D'border:none;border-left:solid =
black 1.5pt;padding:0cm 0cm 0cm =
4.0pt;margin-left:3.75pt;margin-top:5.0pt;margin-right:0cm;margin-bottom:=
5.0pt'><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'>----- Original =
Message ----- <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'background:#E4E4E4'><b><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'>From:</span></b=
><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'> <a =
href=3D"mailto:tr4racing@googlemail.com"; =
title=3D"tr4racing@googlemail.com">MadMarx</a> =
<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><b><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'>To:</span></b><=
span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'> <a =
href=3D"mailto:fot@autox.team.net"; title=3D"fot@autox.team.net">'FOT =
List'</a> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><b><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'>Sent:</span></b=
><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'> =
Thursday, July 07, 2016 1:20 PM<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><b><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'>Subject:</span>=
</b><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'> =
[Fot] TR8 Water temperature<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'=
>Hi guys,</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'=
> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'=
>My TR8 is running way too hot about 212F at full speed and at idle the =
temps are getting that high also. I have no idea to get them =
down.<br>Radiator core is 68x48cm x 5 cm. I suppose that should be =
enough. I've experiment with different restrictor plates with no change. =
Changing pump speed didn't help either. The difference between radiator =
in and outlet is 10=C2=B0C (50F). Not enough I would say. Maybe making =
the pump more slower? It was running on a ratio of 0.8 slower than =
crank, currently 1:1 speed. </span><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'=
>Any ideas? 10 Liters are circulating.</span><o:p></o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'=
> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'=
>Cheers</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'=
>Chris</span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div class=3DMsoNormal =
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