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Wouldn=E2=80=99t using a triple core radiator result in a greater =
temperature differential between input and output? Seems like your =
radiator temperature differential is more than adequate. The more I =
think about it, the more I believe that flow through the system is too =
slow, either due to a restriction or the pump design.
Duncan Charlton
Elgin, Texas USA
> On Jul 9, 2016, at 2:28 PM, Christian Marx <tr4racing@googlemail.com> =
wrote:
>=20
> It is a single pass single core radiator with 2=E2=80=9D tube=20
> =20
> Gesendet von meinem Windows 10 Phone
> =20
> Gesendet: Samstag, 9. Juli 2016 21:08
> Betreff: Re: AW: [Fot] TR8 Water temperature
> =20
> Maybe you need a multi pass radiator. Do you know what is in the car =
now; single, double; triple pass?
>=20
> Sent from my iPhone
>=20
> On Jul 9, 2016, at 10:07 AM, MadMarx <tr4racing@googlemail.com =
>=20
> The cap is a 23 psi cap.
> I have an expansion tank which is plumbed at the sucktion side of the =
lower pump hose and has a 2nd connection at the top of the radiator to =
remove air from the system.
> I don=E2=80=99t understand the air flow question. The car has an inlet =
on front, and an airbox around the radiator to force the air through.
> =20
> =C2=A0 <>
> Von: Greg Blake [mailto:gblake58tr3@icloud.com =
> Gesendet: Samstag, 9. Juli 2016 15:49
> An: MadMarx <tr4racing@googlemail.com =
> Betreff: Re: [Fot] TR8 Water temperature
> =20
> questions.=20
> What pressure are you running?
> Do you have a pressurized expansion tank plumed into the system that =
takes water from the back of one of the heads then recirculates to the =
pump?
> What kind of air flow are you getting through the radiator?
>=20
> Sent from my iPhone
>=20
> On Jul 7, 2016, at 12:20 PM, MadMarx <tr4racing@googlemail.com =
>=20
> Hi guys,
> =20
> My TR8 is running way too hot about 212F at full speed and at idle the =
temps are getting that high also. I have no idea to get them down.
> Radiator core is 68x48cm x 5 cm. I suppose that should be enough. I've =
experiment with different restrictor plates with no change. Changing =
pump speed didn't help either. The difference between radiator in and =
outlet is 10=C2=B0C (50F). Not enough I would say. Maybe making the pump =
more slower? It was running on a ratio of 0.8 slower than crank, =
currently 1:1 speed. Any ideas? 10 Liters are circulating.
> =20
> Cheers
> Chris
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-webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space;" =
class=3D"">Wouldn=E2=80=99t using a triple core radiator result in a =
greater temperature differential between input and output? Seems =
like your radiator temperature differential is more than adequate. =
The more I think about it, the more I believe that flow through =
the system is too slow, either due to a restriction or the pump =
design.<div class=3D""><br class=3D""><div class=3D"">
<div class=3D"">Duncan Charlton</div><div class=3D"">Elgin, Texas =
USA</div><div class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><br =
class=3D"Apple-interchange-newline">
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<br class=3D""><div><blockquote type=3D"cite" class=3D""><div =
class=3D"">On Jul 9, 2016, at 2:28 PM, Christian Marx <<a =
href=3D"mailto:tr4racing@googlemail.com"; =
class=3D"">tr4racing@googlemail.com</a>> wrote:</div><br =
class=3D"Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=3D""><div =
class=3D"WordSection1" style=3D"page: WordSection1; font-family: =
Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: =
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normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: =
0px;"><div style=3D"margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; =
font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=3D""><span lang=3D"EN-US" =
class=3D"">It is a single pass single core radiator with 2=E2=80=9D =
tube<span class=3D"Apple-converted-space"> </span></span><span =
lang=3D"EN-US" class=3D""><o:p class=3D""></o:p></span></div><div =
style=3D"margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: =
Calibri, sans-serif;" class=3D""><o:p class=3D""> </o:p></div><div =
style=3D"margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: =
Calibri, sans-serif;" class=3D"">Gesendet von meinem Windows 10 =
Phone</div><div style=3D"margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; =
font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=3D""><span style=3D"font-size: =
12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=3D""><o:p =
class=3D""> </o:p></span></div><div style=3D"border-style: solid =
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padding: 3pt 0cm 0cm;" class=3D""><div style=3D"margin: 0cm 0cm =
0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; border: =
none; padding: 0cm;" class=3D""><b class=3D"">Von:<span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space"> </span></b><a =
href=3D"mailto:gblake58tr3@icloud.com"; style=3D"color: rgb(149, 79, =
114); text-decoration: underline;" class=3D"">Greg Blake</a><br =
class=3D""><b class=3D"">Gesendet:<span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space"> </span></b>Samstag, 9. Juli 2016 =
21:08<br class=3D""><b class=3D"">An:<span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space"> </span></b><a =
href=3D"mailto:tr4racing@googlemail.com"; style=3D"color: rgb(149, 79, =
114); text-decoration: underline;" class=3D"">MadMarx</a><br class=3D""><b=
class=3D"">Cc:<span class=3D"Apple-converted-space"> </span></b><a =
href=3D"mailto:fot@autox.team.net"; style=3D"color: rgb(149, 79, 114); =
text-decoration: underline;" class=3D"">FOT List</a><br class=3D""><b =
class=3D"">Betreff:<span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space"> </span></b>Re: AW: [Fot] TR8 Water =
temperature</div></div><div style=3D"margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; =
font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=3D""><span =
style=3D"font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" =
class=3D""><o:p class=3D""> </o:p></span></div><div style=3D"margin: =
0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" =
class=3D""><span style=3D"font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New =
Roman', serif;" class=3D"">Maybe you need a multi pass radiator. Do you =
know what is in the car now; single, double; triple pass?<br =
class=3D""><br class=3D"">Sent from my iPhone</span><span =
style=3D"font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" =
class=3D""><o:p class=3D""></o:p></span></div><div class=3D""><p =
class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin: 0cm 0cm 12pt; font-size: 11pt; =
font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"><span style=3D"font-size: 12pt; =
font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=3D""><br class=3D"">On Jul =
9, 2016, at 10:07 AM, MadMarx <<a =
href=3D"mailto:tr4racing@googlemail.com"; style=3D"color: rgb(149, 79, =
114); text-decoration: underline;" =
class=3D"">tr4racing@googlemail.com</a>> wrote:<o:p =
class=3D""></o:p></span></p></div><blockquote style=3D"margin-top: 5pt; =
margin-bottom: 5pt;" class=3D""><div class=3D""><div style=3D"margin: =
0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" =
class=3D""><span lang=3D"EN-US" class=3D"">The cap is a 23 psi =
cap.</span><span style=3D"font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" =
class=3D""><o:p class=3D""></o:p></span></div><div style=3D"margin: 0cm =
0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" =
class=3D""><span lang=3D"EN-US" class=3D"">I have an expansion tank =
which is plumbed at the sucktion side of the lower pump hose and has a =
2<sup class=3D"">nd</sup><span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space"> </span>connection at the top of =
the radiator to remove air from the system.</span></div><div =
style=3D"margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: =
Calibri, sans-serif;" class=3D""><span lang=3D"EN-US" class=3D"">I =
don=E2=80=99t understand the air flow question. The car has an inlet on =
front, and an airbox around the radiator to force the air =
through.</span><o:p class=3D""></o:p></div><div style=3D"margin: 0cm 0cm =
0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" =
class=3D""><span lang=3D"EN-US" class=3D""> </span><o:p =
class=3D""></o:p></div><div style=3D"margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; =
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3pt 0cm 0cm;" class=3D""><div style=3D"margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; =
font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=3D""><b =
class=3D"">Von:</b><span class=3D"Apple-converted-space"> </span>Greg=
Blake [<a href=3D"mailto:gblake58tr3@icloud.com"; style=3D"color: =
rgb(149, 79, 114); text-decoration: underline;" =
class=3D"">mailto:gblake58tr3@icloud.com</a>]<span =
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class=3D"">Gesendet:</b><span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space"> </span>Samstag, 9. Juli 2016 =
15:49<br class=3D""><b class=3D"">An:</b><span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space"> </span>MadMarx <<a =
href=3D"mailto:tr4racing@googlemail.com"; style=3D"color: rgb(149, 79, =
114); text-decoration: underline;" =
class=3D"">tr4racing@googlemail.com</a>><br class=3D""><b =
class=3D"">Betreff:</b><span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space"> </span>Re: [Fot] TR8 Water =
temperature<o:p class=3D""></o:p></div></div></div><p class=3D"MsoNormal" =
style=3D"margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: =
Calibri, sans-serif;"> </p><div class=3D""><div style=3D"margin: =
0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" =
class=3D"">questions. </div></div><div class=3D""><div =
style=3D"margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: =
Calibri, sans-serif;" class=3D"">What pressure are you =
running?</div></div><div class=3D""><div style=3D"margin: 0cm 0cm =
0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" =
class=3D"">Do you have a pressurized expansion tank plumed into the =
system that takes water from the back of one of the heads then =
recirculates to the pump?</div></div><div class=3D""><div style=3D"margin:=
0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" =
class=3D"">What kind of air flow are you getting through the =
radiator?<br class=3D""><br class=3D"">Sent from my =
iPhone</div></div><div class=3D""><p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin: =
0cm 0cm 12pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"><br =
class=3D"">On Jul 7, 2016, at 12:20 PM, MadMarx <<a =
href=3D"mailto:tr4racing@googlemail.com"; style=3D"color: rgb(149, 79, =
114); text-decoration: underline;" =
class=3D"">tr4racing@googlemail.com</a>> wrote:</p></div><blockquote =
style=3D"margin-top: 5pt; margin-bottom: 5pt;" class=3D""><div =
class=3D""><div class=3D""><div class=3D""><div style=3D"margin: 0cm 0cm =
0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" =
class=3D""><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size: 10pt; font-family: =
Verdana, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);" class=3D"">Hi =
guys,</span></div><p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin: 0cm 0cm =
0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"><span =
lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size: 10pt; font-family: Verdana, =
sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);" class=3D""> </span></p><div =
style=3D"margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: =
Calibri, sans-serif;" class=3D""><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size: =
10pt; font-family: Verdana, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);" =
class=3D"">My TR8 is running way too hot about 212F at full speed and at =
idle the temps are getting that high also. I have no idea to get them =
down.<br class=3D"">Radiator core is 68x48cm x 5 cm. I suppose that =
should be enough. I've experiment with different restrictor plates with =
no change. Changing pump speed didn't help either. The difference =
between radiator in and outlet is 10=C2=B0C (50F). Not enough I would =
say. Maybe making the pump more slower? It was running on a ratio of 0.8 =
slower than crank, currently 1:1 speed.<span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space"> </span></span><span =
style=3D"font-size: 10pt; font-family: Verdana, sans-serif; color: =
rgb(31, 73, 125);" class=3D"">Any ideas? 10 Liters are =
circulating.</span></div><p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin: 0cm 0cm =
0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"><span =
style=3D"font-size: 10pt; font-family: Verdana, sans-serif; color: =
rgb(31, 73, 125);" class=3D""> </span></p><div style=3D"margin: 0cm =
0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" =
class=3D""><span style=3D"font-size: 10pt; font-family: Verdana, =
sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);" class=3D"">Cheers</span></div><div =
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Calibri, sans-serif;" class=3D""><span style=3D"font-size: 10pt; =
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class=3D"">Chris</span></div></div></div></div></blockquote></div></blockq=
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