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To: "James_" <jattr6@hotmail.com>, "Gene Holtzclaw" <motrv8d@hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: [6pack] my darned clutch slave
From: dave n via 6pack <6pack@autox.team.net>
Date: Wed, 13 Apr 2016 08:13:33 -0500
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absolutely positively yes!

From: James_ via 6pack=20
Sent: Tuesday, April 12, 2016 5:48 PM
To: Gene Holtzclaw=20
Cc: COLIN THOM ; 6pack@autox.team.net=20
Subject: Re: [6pack] my darned clutch slave

I found this video. http://youtu.be/Vwjrh4ezwdU
Of course would not be as easy on the car but could be done. there is =
this guy too: http://youtu.be/YlnlMuYzLRE

BTW:
I was thinking of changing my brakes to DOT 5 silicone. (Yes, I cleaned =
out old DOT 4 and replaced all lines and rear cylinders)
Would DOT 5 be good for clutches too? Don't see why not.=20
(Hope I didn't open a whole new can of worms)


=97Sent from my Atari 2600=97

On Apr 12, 2016, at 4:45 AM, Gene Holtzclaw via 6pack =
<6pack@autox.team.net> wrote:


  I had a old school Triumph mechanic show me years ago what worked best =
for him, and now me. He would leave the top off the clutch master. Top =
the system off with fluid, then slowly push in on the slave cylinder rod =
several strokes before putting the pin in at the clutch fork. No =
bleeding needed, no help needed. All air traveled up the the clutch =
master cylinder

  Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4G LTE Droid
  On Apr 11, 2016 11:34 PM, Bud R via 6pack <6pack@autox.team.net> =
wrote:

    Right before you bolt the slave to the tranny bleed it by holding it =
in your hand and tilt the bleed screw so its the highest point of the =
whole assembly Takes a helper and some dexterity but if you leave a bit =
of air in the slave (which can easily happen when its done on the car) =
it compresses instead of the fluid being pushed when you push the pedal. =
A little temperature change and suddenly what worked doesn=92t work =
because things got heated up a bit. TR clutches can be touchy about =
incompletely bled slave cylinders.


    Bud Rolofson

    Extreme Parts Racing (more than just a haircut)

    71TR6 CC57365 (Good 6)
    71 Spitfire MK IV Race Car #3
    69 Spitfire MK III (back up FE engine/dinghy car)
    93 Minnie Winnie Race Support Vehicle=20
    77 Z-50A Hardly Davidson Honda Mini-Trail Bike (Triumph Pit Bike)













    On Apr 11, 2016, at 7:23 AM, COLIN THOM via 6pack =
<6pack@autox.team.net> wrote:


      Hi John=20

      First: Dale's right. If yo had to add fluid and re-bleed the =
system after you'd just bled it, where did the fluid go? The clutch =
hydraulic system is very short so it won't be hard to find. Make sure =
you pull back the carpet in the foot well and check the master cylinder =
inside the firewall. That's where you're most likely to see the leak.

      If, when you say you added fluid, you really mean that you re-bled =
it just for the sake of trying it gain, and you are certain that there =
is no fluid leak or air in the system, then the hydraulic system is not =
the problem and the clutch most probably is. I wrote a lengthy posting =
about this a few months ago in response to someone's similar symptoms: =
Clutch works OK when it's cold, but fails when it gets warm. The =
problem, barring a hydraulic issue, is the clutch pressure plate. =
They've been known to fail when they get hot due to poor metallurgy. I =
know of what I speak...trust me.=20

      Use the middle hole on the release lever.



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         1. Loctite 234227 LOC51048 Moly Paste Anti-Seize Compound:
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         2. Re: 6pack Digest, Vol 20, Issue 2 (Ed McGuirk)
         3. My darned clutch slave (John Summers)
         4. LBC Show in North/Western NC next weekend (im sloane)
         5. Re: My darned clutch slave (Dale)


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      Date: Sat, 9 Apr 2016 11:46:14 -0700
      From: anabil007 <anabil007@comcast.net>
      To: 6pack@autox.team.net
      Subject: [6pack] Loctite 234227 LOC51048 Moly Paste Anti-Seize
              Compound:        Amazon.com: Industrial & Scientific
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      This stuff works great, of course you will have enough to do all =
the hub splines in the known universe.

      I still have 90% left ?


      > =
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      "Life is too short to drive boring cars"

      Bill Pugh
      1957 TR3 "Casper"?
      TS16765L
      Wallace, CA
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      Message: 2
      Date: Sat, 09 Apr 2016 18:10:06 -0400
      From: Ed McGuirk <emcguirk@optonline.net>
      To: 6pack@autox.team.net
      Subject: Re: [6pack] 6pack Digest, Vol 20, Issue 2
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      I don't know what the correct spec is but my general rule is that =
if it=20
      is supposed to move, use grease; and if it is not supposed to move =
use=20
      anti-seize.  ( I get kind of annoyed at the people who demand only =

      grease where it should be anti-seize. And generally anti-seize is =
a very=20
      poor grease substitute on moving parts.)

      ed

      However I believe the trunnion is supposed to use oil so what do I =
know?

      On 4/9/2016 2:00 PM, 6pack-request@autox.team.net wrote:
      > Date: Fri, 8 Apr 2016 22:43:32 -0400
      > From: ron landis <rdltr250@sbcglobal.net>
      > To: 6pack@autox.team.net
      > Subject: [6pack] Wire wheel grease
      >
      > Listers   Any recommendations for the type of lube to put on =
splines of wire wheels would be appreciated
      >
      > Thanks
      > Ron
      >  =20
      >



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      Message: 3
      Date: Sun, 10 Apr 2016 01:47:33 +0000 (UTC)
      From: John Summers <rivers2hills@yahoo.com>
      To: "6pack@autox.team.net" <6pack@autox.team.net>
      Subject: [6pack] My darned clutch slave
      Message-ID:
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      I'm wondering if there is anyone there:)) ?I changed my clutch =
slave cylinder and bled it. ?Went for a drive andafter sitting in a =
drive through a few minutes had a heck of a time getting it in gear. ?I =
learned a long time agonot to take the car out of gear in situations =
like that. ?After some crunching of gears I got home. ?On adviceof one =
more experienced than me I re-bled the thing with my son pushing the =
pedal and me under the car.?Finally after seeing no more air bubbles and =
having a good amount of resistance I went for a short drive.Returning =
home and about to turn into my driveway I had to crunch the gears again. =
?More fluid was added and?more pumping etc. I felt confident. ?I got to =
the end of my street today before I had to do a U turn and come home.I =
wonder whats wrong? ? ?There are different spots on the rod into the =
slave and frankly I don't remember?which hole I have it set at. ?Would =
changing that make a difference? ?Should I go to the hole nearer =
theslave or father awa
      y, should it come to that. ?Ideas, opinions, prayers??John =
Summers, ?Jacksonville Florida'74 TR 6
      Thanks folks.
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      Message: 4
      Date: Sun, 10 Apr 2016 02:57:05 +0000
      From: im sloane <im_sloane@hotmail.com>
      To: "6pack@autox.team.net" <6pack@autox.team.net>
      Subject: [6pack] LBC Show in North/Western NC next weekend
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      Hey guys,
      Anybody on-list close enough to come to North/Western NC next =
weekend?  The Triumph Club of the Carolinas annual event 'The Gathering' =
is at Sheldon Vineyards in Dobson, NC. Info =
atwww.triumphclub.org<http://www.triumphclub.org>. It's a 3 day event, =
but Friday is mostly a self-guided tour around some nice mountain and =
foot-hill back roads and Sunday morning is a really fun auto-cross. The =
main car show is all day Saturday of course. Just to be clear, this is =
April 15, 16, & 17. The vineyard is about 10 miles south of the NC/VA =
line on I-77.


      Maybe reply if you might be there. I will be as long as the =
weather is nice. I think I'll drive the Spit this year.


      Sloane [&#X1f60a]

      69-Six

      72-Spit

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      Message: 5
      Date: Sun, 10 Apr 2016 11:18:53 +0000 (UTC)
      From: Dale <tpdwinch@yahoo.com>
      To: John Summers <rivers2hills@yahoo.com>,  "6pack@autox.team.net"
              <6pack@autox.team.net>
      Subject: Re: [6pack] My darned clutch slave
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      John
      The normal hole to use is the center hole.?=20

      If you have had to add fluid after bleeding then where did the =
fluid go?? Check to see where the fluid went.

      One thought here is to safely jack the car up and see if you have =
excessive movement in the clutch fork. This can be done with the slave =
rod disconnected from the arm. A small piece of pipe may help for =
leverage to see if you feel a catch in the movement.? If so then you may =
have a broken pin in the clutch fork.

      Dale

            From: John Summers via 6pack <6pack@autox.team.net>
      To: "6pack@autox.team.net" <6pack@autox.team.net>=20
      Sent: Saturday, April 9, 2016 9:47 PM
      Subject: [6pack] My darned clutch slave
        =20
      I'm wondering if there is anyone there:)) ?I changed my clutch =
slave cylinder and bled it. ?Went for a drive andafter sitting in a =
drive through a few minutes had a heck of a time getting it in gear. ?I =
learned a long time agonot=20
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<DIV>absolutely positively yes!</DIV>
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<DIV style=3D"font-color: black"><B>From:</B> <A =
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href=3D"mailto:6pack@autox.team.net";>James_ via 6pack</A> </DIV>
<DIV><B>Sent:</B> Tuesday, April 12, 2016 5:48 PM</DIV>
<DIV><B>To:</B> <A title=3Dmotrv8d@hotmail.com=20
href=3D"mailto:motrv8d@hotmail.com";>Gene Holtzclaw</A> </DIV>
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<DIV><B>Subject:</B> Re: [6pack] my darned clutch =
slave</DIV></DIV></DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV></DIV>
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<DIV>Of course would not be as easy on the car but could be done. there =
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guy too: <A=20
href=3D"http://youtu.be/YlnlMuYzLRE";>http://youtu.be/YlnlMuYzLRE</A></DIV=
>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>BTW:</DIV>
<DIV>I was thinking of changing my brakes to DOT 5 silicone. (Yes, I =
cleaned out=20
old DOT 4 and replaced all lines and rear cylinders)</DIV>
<DIV>Would DOT 5 be good for clutches too? Don't see why not. </DIV>
<DIV>(Hope I didn't open a whole new can of worms)</DIV>
<DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>=97Sent from my Atari 2600=97</DIV></DIV>
<DIV><BR>On Apr 12, 2016, at 4:45 AM, Gene Holtzclaw via 6pack &lt;<A=20
href=3D"mailto:6pack@autox.team.net";>6pack@autox.team.net</A>&gt;=20
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  <DIV>I had a old school Triumph mechanic show me years ago what worked =
best=20
  for him, and now me. He would leave the top off the clutch master. Top =
the=20
  system off with fluid, then slowly push in on the slave cylinder rod =
several=20
  strokes before putting the pin in at the clutch fork. No bleeding =
needed, no=20
  help needed. All air traveled up the the clutch master cylinder</DIV>
  <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT style=3D"COLOR: #333333"><I>Sent from my Verizon Wireless =
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  <DIV class=3Delided-text>On Apr 11, 2016 11:34 PM, Bud R via 6pack =
&lt;<A=20
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dexterity=20
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when its=20
    done on the car) it compresses instead of the fluid being pushed =
when you=20
    push the pedal. A little temperature change and suddenly what worked =
doesn=92t=20
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about=20
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    Minnie Winnie Race Support Vehicle </DIV>
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    Z-50A Hardly Davidson Honda Mini-Trail Bike (Triumph Pit =
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    <DIV>On Apr 11, 2016, at 7:23 AM, COLIN THOM via 6pack &lt;<A=20
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      style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'arial' , 'helvetica' , =
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      John=20
      <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
      <DIV>First: Dale's right. If yo had to add fluid and re-bleed the =
system=20
      after you'd just bled it, where did the fluid go? The clutch =
hydraulic=20
      system is very short so it won't be hard to find. Make sure you =
pull back=20
      the carpet in the foot well and check the master cylinder inside =
the=20
      firewall. That's where you're most likely to see the leak.</DIV>
      <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
      <DIV>If, when you say you added fluid, you really mean that you =
re-bled it=20
      just for the sake of trying it gain, and you are certain that =
there is no=20
      fluid leak or air in the system, then the hydraulic system is not =
the=20
      problem and the clutch most probably is. I wrote a lengthy posting =
about=20
      this a few months ago in response to someone's similar symptoms: =
Clutch=20
      works OK when it's cold, but fails when it gets warm. The problem, =
barring=20
      a hydraulic issue, is the clutch pressure plate. They've been =
known to=20
      fail when they get hot due to poor metallurgy. I know of what I=20
      speak...trust me. </DIV>
      <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
      <DIV>Use the middle hole on the release lever.</DIV>
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      "Re: Contents of 6pack digest..."<BR><BR><BR>Today's=20
      Topics:<BR><BR>&nbsp;&nbsp; 1. Loctite 234227 LOC51048 Moly Paste=20
      Anti-Seize Compound:<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; <A=20
      href=3D"http://amazon.com/";>Amazon.com</A>: Industrial &amp; =
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      (anabil007)<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp; 2. Re: 6pack Digest, Vol 20, Issue 2 =
(Ed=20
      McGuirk)<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp; 3. My darned clutch slave (John=20
      Summers)<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp; 4. LBC Show in North/Western NC next =
weekend (im=20
      sloane)<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp; 5. Re: My darned clutch slave=20
      =
(Dale)<BR><BR><BR>-------------------------------------------------------=
---------------<BR><BR>Message:=20
      1<BR>Date: Sat, 9 Apr 2016 11:46:14 -0700<BR>From: anabil007 =
&lt;<A=20
      =
href=3D"mailto:anabil007@comcast.net";>anabil007@comcast.net</A>&gt;<BR>To=
:=20
      <A =
href=3D"mailto:6pack@autox.team.net";>6pack@autox.team.net</A><BR>Subject:=
=20
      [6pack] Loctite 234227 LOC51048 Moly Paste=20
      Anti-Seize<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
      Compound:&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; <A=20
      href=3D"http://amazon.com/";>Amazon.com</A>: Industrial &amp;=20
      Scientific<BR>Message-ID: &lt;<A=20
      =
href=3D"mailto:733D9890-F01D-4FAE-8E3B-9566F080D802@comcast.net";>733D9890=
-F01D-4FAE-8E3B-9566F080D802@comcast.net</A>&gt;<BR>Content-Type:=20
      text/plain; charset=3D"utf-8"<BR><BR>This stuff works great, of =
course you=20
      will have enough to do all the hub splines in the known =
universe.<BR><BR>I=20
      still have 90% left ?<BR><BR><BR>&gt; <A=20
      =
href=3D"http://www.amazon.com/Loctite-234227-LOC51048-Anti-Seize-Compound=
/dp/B001HWBSJW/ref=3Dsr_1_25?ie=3DUTF8&amp;qid=3D1460227433&amp;sr=3D8-25=
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C51048-Anti-Seize-Compound/dp/B001HWBSJW/ref=3Dsr_1_25?ie=3DUTF8&amp;qid=3D=
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      =
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&amp;keywords=3Dspline+lubricant">http://www.amazon.com/Loctite-234227-LO=
C51048-Anti-Seize-Compound/dp/B001HWBSJW/ref=3Dsr_1_25?ie=3DUTF8&amp;qid=3D=
1460227433&amp;sr=3D8-25&amp;keywords=3Dspline+lubricant</A>&gt;<BR><BR><=
BR>"Life=20
      is too short to drive boring cars"<BR><BR>Bill Pugh<BR>1957 TR3=20
      "Casper"?<BR>TS16765L<BR>Wallace, CA<BR><A=20
      =
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      2<BR>Date: Sat, 09 Apr 2016 18:10:06 -0400<BR>From: Ed McGuirk =
&lt;<A=20
      =
href=3D"mailto:emcguirk@optonline.net";>emcguirk@optonline.net</A>&gt;<BR>=
To:=20
      <A =
href=3D"mailto:6pack@autox.team.net";>6pack@autox.team.net</A><BR>Subject:=
=20
      Re: [6pack] 6pack Digest, Vol 20, Issue 2<BR>Message-ID: &lt;<A=20
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.net</A>&gt;<BR>Content-Type:=20
      text/plain; charset=3Dwindows-1252; format=3Dflowed<BR><BR>I don't =
know what=20
      the correct spec is but my general rule is that if it <BR>is =
supposed to=20
      move, use grease; and if it is not supposed to move use=20
      <BR>anti-seize.&nbsp; ( I get kind of annoyed at the people who =
demand=20
      only <BR>grease where it should be anti-seize. And generally =
anti-seize is=20
      a very <BR>poor grease substitute on moving=20
      parts.)<BR><BR>ed<BR><BR>However I believe the trunnion is =
supposed to use=20
      oil so what do I know?<BR><BR>On 4/9/2016 2:00 PM, <A=20
      =
href=3D"mailto:6pack-request@autox.team.net";>6pack-request@autox.team.net=
</A>=20
      wrote:<BR>&gt; Date: Fri, 8 Apr 2016 22:43:32 -0400<BR>&gt; From: =
ron=20
      landis &lt;<A=20
      =
href=3D"mailto:rdltr250@sbcglobal.net";>rdltr250@sbcglobal.net</A>&gt;<BR>=
&gt;=20
      To: <A =
href=3D"mailto:6pack@autox.team.net";>6pack@autox.team.net</A><BR>&gt;=20
      Subject: [6pack] Wire wheel grease<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt; =
Listers&nbsp;&nbsp; Any=20
      recommendations for the type of lube to put on splines of wire =
wheels=20
      would be appreciated<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt; Thanks<BR>&gt;=20
      Ron<BR>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
      =
<BR>&gt;<BR><BR><BR><BR>------------------------------<BR><BR>Message:=20
      3<BR>Date: Sun, 10 Apr 2016 01:47:33 +0000 (UTC)<BR>From: John =
Summers=20
      &lt;<A=20
      =
href=3D"mailto:rivers2hills@yahoo.com";>rivers2hills@yahoo.com</A>&gt;<BR>=
To:=20
      "<A href=3D"mailto:6pack@autox.team.net";>6pack@autox.team.net</A>" =
&lt;<A=20
      =
href=3D"mailto:6pack@autox.team.net";>6pack@autox.team.net</A>&gt;<BR>Subj=
ect:=20
      [6pack] My darned clutch=20
      slave<BR>Message-ID:<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; =
&lt;<A=20
      =
href=3D"mailto:513783005.85365.1460252853724.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.co=
m">513783005.85365.1460252853724.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com</A>&gt;<BR=
>Content-Type:=20
      text/plain; charset=3D"utf-8"<BR><BR>I'm wondering if there is =
anyone=20
      there:)) ?I changed my clutch slave cylinder and bled it. ?Went =
for a=20
      drive andafter sitting in a drive through a few minutes had a heck =
of a=20
      time getting it in gear. ?I learned a long time agonot to take the =
car out=20
      of gear in situations like that. ?After some crunching of gears I =
got=20
      home. ?On adviceof one more experienced than me I re-bled the =
thing with=20
      my son pushing the pedal and me under the car.?Finally after =
seeing no=20
      more air bubbles and having a good amount of resistance I went for =
a short=20
      drive.Returning home and about to turn into my driveway I had to =
crunch=20
      the gears again. ?More fluid was added and?more pumping etc. I =
felt=20
      confident. ?I got to the end of my street today before I had to do =
a U=20
      turn and come home.I wonder whats wrong? ? ?There are different =
spots on=20
      the rod into the slave and frankly I don't remember?which hole I =
have it=20
      set at. ?Would changing that make a difference? ?Should I go to =
the hole=20
      nearer theslave or father awa<BR>y, should it come to that. =
?Ideas,=20
      opinions, prayers??John Summers, ?Jacksonville Florida'74 TR =
6<BR>Thanks=20
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      4<BR>Date: Sun, 10 Apr 2016 02:57:05 +0000<BR>From: im sloane =
&lt;<A=20
      =
href=3D"mailto:im_sloane@hotmail.com";>im_sloane@hotmail.com</A>&gt;<BR>To=
:=20
      "<A href=3D"mailto:6pack@autox.team.net";>6pack@autox.team.net</A>" =
&lt;<A=20
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ect:=20
      [6pack] LBC Show in North/Western NC next=20
      =
weekend<BR>Message-ID:<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
      &lt;<A=20
      =
href=3D"mailto:SN1PR18MB019299DB9A9CA7FAB2D4FB6F8E930@SN1PR18MB0192.nampr=
d18.prod.outlook.com">SN1PR18MB019299DB9A9CA7FAB2D4FB6F8E930@SN1PR18MB019=
2.namprd18.prod.outlook.com</A>&gt;<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbs=
p;&nbsp;=20
      <BR>Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"iso-8859-1"<BR><BR>Hey=20
      guys,<BR>Anybody on-list close enough to come to North/Western NC =
next=20
      weekend?&nbsp; The Triumph Club of the Carolinas annual event 'The =

      Gathering' is at Sheldon Vineyards in Dobson, NC. Info at<A=20
      href=3D"http://www.triumphclub.org/";>www.triumphclub.org</A>&lt;<A =

      =
href=3D"http://www.triumphclub.org/";>http://www.triumphclub.org</A>&gt;. =

      It's a 3 day event, but Friday is mostly a self-guided tour around =
some=20
      nice mountain and foot-hill back roads and Sunday morning is a =
really fun=20
      auto-cross. The main car show is all day Saturday of course. Just =
to be=20
      clear, this is April 15, 16, &amp; 17. The vineyard is about 10 =
miles=20
      south of the NC/VA line on I-77.<BR><BR><BR>Maybe reply if you =
might be=20
      there. I will be as long as the weather is nice. I think I'll =
drive the=20
      Spit this year.<BR><BR><BR>Sloane=20
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      5<BR>Date: Sun, 10 Apr 2016 11:18:53 +0000 (UTC)<BR>From: Dale =
&lt;<A=20
      =
href=3D"mailto:tpdwinch@yahoo.com";>tpdwinch@yahoo.com</A>&gt;<BR>To: =
John=20
      Summers &lt;<A=20
      =
href=3D"mailto:rivers2hills@yahoo.com";>rivers2hills@yahoo.com</A>&gt;,&nb=
sp;=20
      "<A=20
      =
href=3D"mailto:6pack@autox.team.net";>6pack@autox.team.net</A>"<BR>&nbsp;&=
nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
      &lt;<A=20
      =
href=3D"mailto:6pack@autox.team.net";>6pack@autox.team.net</A>&gt;<BR>Subj=
ect:=20
      Re: [6pack] My darned clutch=20
      slave<BR>Message-ID:<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; =
&lt;<A=20
      =
href=3D"mailto:1422265785.153944.1460287133679.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.=
com">1422265785.153944.1460287133679.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com</A>&gt=
;<BR>Content-Type:=20
      text/plain; charset=3D"utf-8"<BR><BR>John<BR>The normal hole to =
use is the=20
      center hole.? <BR><BR>If you have had to add fluid after bleeding =
then=20
      where did the fluid go?? Check to see where the fluid =
went.<BR><BR>One=20
      thought here is to safely jack the car up and see if you have =
excessive=20
      movement in the clutch fork. This can be done with the slave rod=20
      disconnected from the arm. A small piece of pipe may help for =
leverage to=20
      see if you feel a catch in the movement.? If so then you may have =
a broken=20
      pin in the clutch =
fork.<BR><BR>Dale<BR><BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
      From: John Summers via 6pack &lt;<A=20
      =
href=3D"mailto:6pack@autox.team.net";>6pack@autox.team.net</A>&gt;<BR>To: =
"<A=20
      href=3D"mailto:6pack@autox.team.net";>6pack@autox.team.net</A>" =
&lt;<A=20
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<BR>Sent:=20
      Saturday, April 9, 2016 9:47 PM<BR>Subject: [6pack] My darned =
clutch=20
      slave<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp; <BR>I'm wondering if there is anyone =
there:)) ?I=20
      changed my clutch slave cylinder and bled it. ?Went for a drive =
andafter=20
      sitting in a drive through a few minutes had a heck of a time =
getting it=20
      in gear. ?I learned a long time agonot=20
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