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RE: Tuning 2500

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Subject: RE: Tuning 2500
From: "Hill, Stephen M EDUC:EX" <Stephen.Hill@gems7.gov.bc.ca>
Date: Tue, 13 Jun 2000 09:07:58 -0700
Okay, so what is a BDA? I am assuming this is not a female parts washer!

Stephen
1972 TVR 2500

> ----------
> From:         Skip Gurnee[SMTP:skip47@home.com]
> Reply To:     Skip Gurnee
> Sent:         Monday, June 12, 2000 7:04 PM
> To:   Dr John Upham; Hill, Stephen M EDUC:EX; 'TVR mailing list'
> Subject:      Re: Tuning 2500
> 
> John-
> I have only a hoop, but it's braced fore and aft to the center section. 
> In addition, I have put diagonals everywhere in the frame, including
> some removable ones under the transmission.  I looked and couldn't find
> the figures on my frame twist; I remember it being significantly
> improved.  The car's handling responds to changes well, which tells me
> that stiffness is acceptable.  As for torque, the engine has none,
> coming on in the very high end with real power from 7000 to 9500rpm. 
> Final drive ratio is 5.38:1 turning 22" tires, so the high rev's are
> useable at autocross speeds.
> 
> Parts for BDA's come mostly from Dave Bean Engineering, Cosworth, and
> secret places only my engine builder knows.  I suspect contacts in
> Britain.
> 
> Hmm-forward holes for the steering rack?  In mine, it caused the
> steering arms to be angled much too far to the rear, maybe 20 degrees! 
> Bump steer was minimized by moving the rack vertically, not
> horizontally.  Could there be differences in frames???
> Best,
> Skip
> 
> Dr John Upham wrote:
> > 
> > Skip,
> >    How much space frame twist is there with 230bhp (although the
> >    torque figure is more relevant)?
> > 
> >    I'd guess most of the twist is in the middle section but a decent
> >    roll cage should stiffen it up properly. I assume you do have
> >    a roll cage rather than just a roll hoop?
> > 
> >    Whilst I''ve been rebuilding my Vixen S3 I've bought an Impreza
> >    WRX which is quite amusing but not as much fun as the TVR.
> > 
> >    Where do you get your BDA parts from?
> > 
> >    Regards,
> > 
> >    John Upham
> > 
> > Skip Gurnee wrote:
> > >
> > > Steve-
> > > Dare I quote the old adage about "speed costs money how fast, etc.?
> The
> > > money you spend will be somewhat dependent on your plans for the car
> and
> > > how long you intend to keep it.  If it's a lifelong venture like my
> > > Vixen, then do whatever you want without regard to resale value.  If
> you
> > > have thoughts of selling it someday, then I second Bob's vote about
> > > changing engines.  I also second Will's thoughts about other
> > > modifications required.  My car is running a 230hp Cosworth BD engine,
> > > and EVERYTHING has been changed in the suspension and drive train to
> > > support it.  The total cost is several times what you're considering.
> > > The TVR can handle 175hp, but the drive train will see a large
> > > percentage increase in stress, with consequent increase in breakage
> > > possibilities.  The mods on my car didn't come all at once; they came
> as
> > > a result of fixing the "next weakest link".
> > > By the way, the money and frustration are forgotten when the car stays
> > > together and you win.
> > > Best,
> > > Skip Gurnee
> > > 1970 Vixen S2  LVX14704
> > >
> > > "Hill, Stephen M EDUC:EX" wrote:
> > > >
> > > > I have been researching what can be done to warm up my stock TR6
> engined
> > > > 1972 TVR, which as folks know is only 106 hp stock. I have triple
> webers on
> > > > it, a header, and I am acquiring pieces and info to go the rest of
> the way.
> > > > The more research I do, the more I realise how difficult and
> expensive it
> > > > will be to get a realiable 175 hp out of it, and I am wondering if I
> will be
> > > > happy with that amount of hp.  Perhaps I should go the Rover
> aluminum V8
> > > > route, or maybe a late Ford 5.0 litre mustang setup.  I figure if I
> dump
> > > > $3000 into the TR6 engine and am not happy with the results, I will
> be
> > > > pissed off. I am also starting to realise that the car would be
> worth more
> > > > for resale with a V8 than with with a hot TR6 engine. Comments??
> > > >
> > > > Stephen
> > > > 1972 2500 TVR
> > 
> > 
> > 
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