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Re: Tuning 2500

To: "Hill, Stephen M EDUC:EX" <Stephen.Hill@gems7.gov.bc.ca>
Subject: Re: Tuning 2500
From: Bill Sanford <tvrdude@netzero.net>
Date: Tue, 13 Jun 2000 18:48:07 -0700
A BDA I believe is a "Belt Drive A motor". otherwise known as a 4 cycl.
twin overhead cam motor, built by Cosworth for racing. "Bad" ones put
out
200hp and it goes up from there.
The TVR factory put a Turbo Version in a TVR S over 10 years ago, and
were quoting over 500hp! I have a road test stating a 0-100 time of
7.2 secs.
 I'm sure Skip can add to or correct from here.
 Bill

"Hill, Stephen M EDUC:EX" wrote:
> 
> Okay, so what is a BDA? I am assuming this is not a female parts washer!
> 
> Stephen
> 1972 TVR 2500
> 
> > ----------
> > From:         Skip Gurnee[SMTP:skip47@home.com]
> > Reply To:     Skip Gurnee
> > Sent:         Monday, June 12, 2000 7:04 PM
> > To:   Dr John Upham; Hill, Stephen M EDUC:EX; 'TVR mailing list'
> > Subject:      Re: Tuning 2500
> >
> > John-
> > I have only a hoop, but it's braced fore and aft to the center section.
> > In addition, I have put diagonals everywhere in the frame, including
> > some removable ones under the transmission.  I looked and couldn't find
> > the figures on my frame twist; I remember it being significantly
> > improved.  The car's handling responds to changes well, which tells me
> > that stiffness is acceptable.  As for torque, the engine has none,
> > coming on in the very high end with real power from 7000 to 9500rpm.
> > Final drive ratio is 5.38:1 turning 22" tires, so the high rev's are
> > useable at autocross speeds.
> >
> > Parts for BDA's come mostly from Dave Bean Engineering, Cosworth, and
> > secret places only my engine builder knows.  I suspect contacts in
> > Britain.
> >
> > Hmm-forward holes for the steering rack?  In mine, it caused the
> > steering arms to be angled much too far to the rear, maybe 20 degrees!
> > Bump steer was minimized by moving the rack vertically, not
> > horizontally.  Could there be differences in frames???
> > Best,
> > Skip
> >
> > Dr John Upham wrote:
> > >
> > > Skip,
> > >    How much space frame twist is there with 230bhp (although the
> > >    torque figure is more relevant)?
> > >
> > >    I'd guess most of the twist is in the middle section but a decent
> > >    roll cage should stiffen it up properly. I assume you do have
> > >    a roll cage rather than just a roll hoop?
> > >
> > >    Whilst I''ve been rebuilding my Vixen S3 I've bought an Impreza
> > >    WRX which is quite amusing but not as much fun as the TVR.
> > >
> > >    Where do you get your BDA parts from?
> > >
> > >    Regards,
> > >
> > >    John Upham
> > >
> > > Skip Gurnee wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Steve-
> > > > Dare I quote the old adage about "speed costs money how fast, etc.?
> > The
> > > > money you spend will be somewhat dependent on your plans for the car
> > and
> > > > how long you intend to keep it.  If it's a lifelong venture like my
> > > > Vixen, then do whatever you want without regard to resale value.  If
> > you
> > > > have thoughts of selling it someday, then I second Bob's vote about
> > > > changing engines.  I also second Will's thoughts about other
> > > > modifications required.  My car is running a 230hp Cosworth BD engine,
> > > > and EVERYTHING has been changed in the suspension and drive train to
> > > > support it.  The total cost is several times what you're considering.
> > > > The TVR can handle 175hp, but the drive train will see a large
> > > > percentage increase in stress, with consequent increase in breakage
> > > > possibilities.  The mods on my car didn't come all at once; they came
> > as
> > > > a result of fixing the "next weakest link".
> > > > By the way, the money and frustration are forgotten when the car stays
> > > > together and you win.
> > > > Best,
> > > > Skip Gurnee
> > > > 1970 Vixen S2  LVX14704
> > > >
> > > > "Hill, Stephen M EDUC:EX" wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > I have been researching what can be done to warm up my stock TR6
> > engined
> > > > > 1972 TVR, which as folks know is only 106 hp stock. I have triple
> > webers on
> > > > > it, a header, and I am acquiring pieces and info to go the rest of
> > the way.
> > > > > The more research I do, the more I realise how difficult and
> > expensive it
> > > > > will be to get a realiable 175 hp out of it, and I am wondering if I
> > will be
> > > > > happy with that amount of hp.  Perhaps I should go the Rover
> > aluminum V8
> > > > > route, or maybe a late Ford 5.0 litre mustang setup.  I figure if I
> > dump
> > > > > $3000 into the TR6 engine and am not happy with the results, I will
> > be
> > > > > pissed off. I am also starting to realise that the car would be
> > worth more
> > > > > for resale with a V8 than with with a hot TR6 engine. Comments??
> > > > >
> > > > > Stephen
> > > > > 1972 2500 TVR
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > --
> > > Dr John Upham, The UKMotorSport Index,
> > > http://www.ukmotorsport.com/, webmaster@ukmotorsport.com,
> > > Voice: +44 (0) 976 634 053 (W), Voice: +44 (0) 125 287 2551 (H),
> > > Voice: +44 (0) 976 634 053 (M)
> >
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