Tony :
You forgot :
3) No one knows who the copyright holder for the work in question is !
There isn't a copyright notice present, so most likely it was never
copyrighted ! (But getting some lawyer to deny they hold the copyright is
MOST unlikely.)
Randall
On Wednesday, June 16, 1999 10:37 AM, Tony Rhodes
[SMTP:ARhodes@compuserve.com] wrote:
>
> Message text written by INTERNET:triumphs-owner@autox.team.net
> >From: "Ian Frearson" <frearji@montevallo.edu>
> Subject: Re: competition manual online
>
>
> This entire debate verges on the bizarre.
> >Date: Tue, 15 Jun 1999 07:15:41 PDT
> >From: greenman62@hotmail.com
> >Subject: Re: competition manual online
> >
> >
> > The least one can do is find out who has the rights and ASK FOR
> > PERMISSION! If permission is given then go ahead<
>
> I see 2 problems with your suggestion:
>
> 1) (text not quoted above) I am not convinced that our e-publishing the
old
> pamphlets/manuals reduces any benefit (monetary or otherwise) to
> the putative current copyright holders.
>
> 2) Asking the supposed copyright holders for permission will
> result in an INSTANTANEOUS _NO_. The lawyers will not think
> about it, will not check to see if the copyright is still valid,
> will not see if anyone in the co. actually cares, will not consider
> any possible collateral gain they might get by better advertizing,
> better product respect (etc). They will just say no. I say let
> them show they care by coming to us and asking us to stop. Then it
> proves they care to the extent of spending a minute DOING something
about
> it. If asked to stop by an official repersentative, I am sure any
> reasonable person would do so immediately.
>
> 2b) Remember, nobody is making money on the e-distribution of the
material,
> and in the case of out-of-print material, no possible loss of sales!
>
> -Tony
>
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