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Re: competition manual online

To: Ian Frearson <frearji@montevallo.edu>
Subject: Re: competition manual online
From: P Barber <patbarber@home.com>
Date: Wed, 16 Jun 1999 20:55:42 -0400
Cc: triumphs@autox.team.net
References: <199906151257.FAA08756@blackie.cruzers.com> <37665734.7CC92C5A@erols.com> <001701beb738$ad9928e0$553b9dcf@montevallo.edu>
Ian brings up a good point!!

If this Pamphlet doesn't have a copyright symbol or any other markings in any
language to protect the author from infringement, then it is really public
domain information.  Ian also states that the British Leyland logo is printed on
the cover, which would suggest ownership by Rover Group/ BMW.  Don't they too
then own all Triumph logos? Are all the logos and artwork owned by Rover/BMW? Is
the Triumph name a trademark?  Have the major distributors of Triumph parts paid
royalities to Rover to use the BL/Triumph logos in their advertising?  Have all
of you website developers asked Rover/BMW permission to use their logos in your
website?

In the begining of Ian's note, he summarizes this entire discussion "This entire
debate verges on the bizarre."   I couldn't agree with him more!!!

--
Patrick Barber, Allen Park, MI
70 Spitfire MkIII FDU89984L
Visit My Triumph Website at http://www.geocities.com/motorcity/pit/7864/Triumph/

Ian Frearson wrote:

>  I've seen the Spitfire
> Competetition Prep manual for sale, too, but that in no way proves that the
> copies being printed are "authorised" per se. The manual is little more than
> a glorified pamphlet, and as has been pointed out, was primarily good
> promotion for Triumph racing. Additionally, the document itself exhibits no
> copyright markings, publishing information, etc. The British Leyland
> corporate logo on the cover would suggest that Rover/BMW ultimately controls
> the publishing rights to this document. But I seriously doubt that they have
> the time or resources to mess about with such foolishness as this, and as I
> indicated above, there is no evidence thus far that any entity OTHER than
> Rover/BMW holds any rights to the document. The supposedly-authorised
> reprints are a pretty small-dollar item, and I can't even imagine that it's
> even remotely profitable enough  to pursue any legal action beyond a "cease
> and desist" order. If it's REALLY a matter of great concern to anyone, I
> would highly recommend contacting Rover Group to clear the matter up.
>
> > >
> > > Strange.  We just heard from a Triumph parts company in the US who
> offers
> > > the Spitfire comp prep manual for sale.  He gets them from another
> > > company & resells them.  This stongly implies that they are still in
> > > print and that the copyright owner is stil in business to make money of
> > > the intellectual property that they own.




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