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Joe
Glad no one was hurt by this incident.
Seems strange that a NyLock nut came loose but without that nut the full we=
ight of the car and the spring force are pushing the ball joint out of the =
knuckle.
Do a complete inspection of the knuckle =E2=80=93 safety first and always.
Maintenance schedule =E2=80=93 less driven vehicles really need increased m=
aintenance schedules.
When the weather warms up more here I will do a safety check for all the li=
ghts and complete front end check with brakes checked =E2=80=93 this is my =
normal maintenance routine before driving the Tiger every year.
Last summer I did an even more comprehensive check on the Tiger and found n=
umerous little problems =E2=80=93 torn ball joint boots, air in the brake l=
ines, rear brakes needed adjustment, Panhard bolt very loose =E2=80=93 good=
thing it was a long bolt or it would be lost to the highway gremlins forev=
er plus a small fuel leak.
These days with the fuel; everyone should routinely inspect the condition o=
f any fuel hose =E2=80=93 if cracked, replace.
Ron Fraser
From: Tigers <tigers-bounces@autox.team.net> On Behalf Of Joe Brown
Sent: Saturday, March 08, 2025 11:09 PM
To: Jay Laifman <jay.laifman@gmail.com>
Cc: tigers@autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Tigers] Check Your Nuts
I was also wondering about how it came loose. We have a bunch of rough roa=
ds around here and I have to cross over several cattle guards. I wonder if =
the nut came loose and then hitting pot holes and cattle guards knocked the=
pin loose. I hope and pray that the hole in the knuckle hasn't been worn o=
ut a little bit. I'll have to see how the new ball joints fit. I'll keep e=
verybody posted.
Thanks,
Joe Brown
On Sat, Mar 8, 2025, 9:45=E2=80=AFPM Jay Laifman <jay.laifman@gmail.com <ma=
ilto:jay.laifman@gmail.com> > wrote:
Wow. That is really scary. Thanks for the warning.
I see what you are saying about the castle nuts. However, I have to say, i=
n all the years I've taken off ball joints or tie rods, I've never ever had=
one just slide off, and they always needed a tool and a lot of force. So =
I'm wondering if something else happened there.
On Sat, Mar 8, 2025 at 2:19=E2=80=AFPM Joe Brown <jbbrown1980@gmail.com <ma=
ilto:jbbrown1980@gmail.com> > wrote:
So, I took my Tiger out yesterday for a short drive and as I was just abou=
t home (maybe a hundred yards from my driveway) the right front suspension =
dropped to the ground and I skidded several yards before stopping. All I c=
ould think of was the old stories about exploding ball joints.
I walked to my house and threw a floor jack and some jack stands in my truc=
k and drove back to the Tiger. I managed to get the front end jacked up an=
d discovered that the nut on the lower ball joint was gone and the lower A =
arm had dropped to the road. My suspension pieces are at least 30 years ol=
d and the ball joints were held on with nylock nuts. I managed to wrap a ra=
tchet strap around the upper and lower A arms and I was able to slowly driv=
e the car into my garage.
I am very lucky that:
1. I was going pretty slow at the time
2. The front end landed in some loose gravel on the side of the road
3. None of the body work was damaged
4. And nothing else in the suspension looks to be damaged; just scraped up=
If this had happened 5 minutes earlier I would have been doing 60 on a wind=
ing road and I would have wound up in a ditch.
So I'm ordering a new set of ball joints and I will drill them out for cast=
le nuts so I don't have to worry about a nut working its way loose again. =
Regards,
Joe Brown
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nk=3Dpurple><div class=3DWordSection1><p class=3DMsoNormal>Joe<o:p></o:p></=
p><p class=3DMsoNormal>Glad no one was hurt by this incident.<o:p></o:p></p=
><p class=3DMsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal>Seems stran=
ge that a NyLock nut came loose but without that nut the full weight of the=
car and the spring force are pushing the ball joint out of the knuckle.<o:=
p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal>=
Do a complete inspection of the knuckle =E2=80=93 safety first and always.<=
o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNorma=
l>Maintenance schedule =E2=80=93 less driven vehicles really need increased=
maintenance schedules.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><o:p> </o:p=
></p><p class=3DMsoNormal>When the weather warms up more here I will do a s=
afety check for all the lights and complete front end check with brakes che=
cked =E2=80=93 this is my normal maintenance routine before driving the Tig=
er every year.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p c=
lass=3DMsoNormal style=3D'text-indent:.5in'>Last summer I did an even more =
comprehensive check on the Tiger and found numerous little problems =E2=80=
=93 torn ball joint boots, air in the brake lines, rear brakes needed adjus=
tment, Panhard bolt very loose =E2=80=93 good thing it was a long bolt or i=
t would be lost to the highway gremlins forever plus a small fuel leak.<o:p=
></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal>T=
hese days with the fuel; everyone should routinely inspect the condition of=
any fuel hose =E2=80=93 if cracked, replace.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoN=
ormal> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal>=C2=A0Ron Fraser<o:p></o:p></p><=
p class=3DMsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><o:p> </=
o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><o:p=
> </o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNo=
rmal><b>From:</b> Tigers <tigers-bounces@autox.team.net> <b>On Behalf=
Of </b>Joe Brown<br><b>Sent:</b> Saturday, March 08, 2025 11:09 PM<br><b>T=
o:</b> Jay Laifman <jay.laifman@gmail.com><br><b>Cc:</b> tigers@autox=
=2Eteam.net<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Tigers] Check Your Nuts<o:p></o:p></p><=
p class=3DMsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><p class=3DMsoNormal>I was al=
so wondering about how it came loose. We have a bunch of rough roads =
around here and I have to cross over several cattle guards. I wonder if the=
nut came loose and then hitting pot holes and cattle guards knocked the pi=
n loose. I hope and pray that the hole in the knuckle hasn't been worn out =
a little bit. I'll have to see how the new ball joints fit. I'll keep=
everybody posted.<o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><o:p> </o:p=
></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal>Thanks,<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p cl=
ass=3DMsoNormal>Joe Brown <o:p></o:p></p></div></div><p class=3DMsoNor=
mal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal>On Sat, Mar 8, 2025=
, 9:45=E2=80=AFPM Jay Laifman <<a href=3D"mailto:jay.laifman@gmail.com";>=
jay.laifman@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div><blockquote style=
=3D'border:none;border-left:solid #CCCCCC 1.0pt;padding:0in 0in 0in 6.0pt;m=
argin-left:4.8pt;margin-right:0in'><div><p class=3DMsoNormal>Wow. Tha=
t is really scary. Thanks for the warning. <o:p></o:p></p><div><p cla=
ss=3DMsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal>I see w=
hat you are saying about the castle nuts. However, I have to say, in =
all the years I've taken off ball joints or tie rods, I've never ever had o=
ne just slide off, and they always needed a tool and a lot of force. =
So I'm wondering if something else happened there. <o:p></o:p></p></d=
iv></div><p class=3DMsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><div><p class=3DMso=
Normal>On Sat, Mar 8, 2025 at 2:19=E2=80=AFPM Joe Brown <<a href=3D"mail=
to:jbbrown1980@gmail.com" target=3D"_blank">jbbrown1980@gmail.com</a>> w=
rote:<o:p></o:p></p></div><blockquote style=3D'border:none;border-left:soli=
d #CCCCCC 1.0pt;padding:0in 0in 0in 6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-right:0i=
n'><div><p class=3DMsoNormal>So, I took my Tiger out yesterday for a =
short drive and as I was just about home (maybe a hundred yards from my dri=
veway) the right front suspension dropped to the ground and I skidded =
several yards before stopping. All I could think of was the old stori=
es about exploding ball joints. <o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=3DMsoNorm=
al><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal>I walked to my hous=
e and threw a floor jack and some jack stands in my truck and drove back to=
the Tiger. I managed to get the front end jacked up and discovered t=
hat the nut on the lower ball joint was gone and the lower A arm had droppe=
d to the road. My suspension pieces are at least 30 years old and the=
ball joints were held on with nylock nuts. I managed to wrap a ratche=
t strap around the upper and lower A arms and I was able to slowly drive th=
e car into my garage. <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><=
o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal>I am very lucky that:&n=
bsp;<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal>1. I was going pretty sl=
ow at the time<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal>2. The front e=
nd landed in some loose gravel on the side of the road<o:p></o:p></p></div>=
<div><p class=3DMsoNormal>3. None of the body work was damaged<o:p></o:p></=
p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal>4. And nothing else in the suspensi=
on looks to be damaged; just scraped up<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=
=3DMsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal>If this h=
ad happened 5 minutes earlier I would have been doing 60 on a winding road =
and I would have wound up in a ditch.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=3DM=
soNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal>So I'm orderi=
ng a new set of ball joints and I will drill them out for castle nuts so I =
don't have to worry about a nut working its way loose again. <o:=
p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div=
><p class=3DMsoNormal>Regards,<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNorma=
l>Joe Brown<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><o:p> </o:p>=
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