Andy
Yes - if your 260 engine has the stock oil pan you should put 5 qts
of oil in no matter what filter you are using.
You have to understand that the dip stick reads wrong; you need to
understand where the 5 qt level is now on the dip stick and where the ADD
level is located.
This all got me to thinking - what was the original Ford recommendation for
oil capacity in the 60's?
I just found 1 reference that indicates the following:
63 - 64 260 4 qts
63 - 65 289 4 qts
66 - 67 289 5 qts
Anyone else have this information for the Ford 260 and 289 engines in the
States?
Maybe we are overfilling the sump with 5 qts and that extra qt was for the
oil lines.
To me the difference between the 65 and 66 289 indicates the oil pan shape
changed for 1966.
Very Interesting!!!
I just located another reference that indicates all 260 & 289 engines 4 qts
- add 1 qt if new filter.
Back to 5 qts with filter change.
Ron Fraser
-----Original Message-----
From: awtiger@cox.net [mailto:awtiger@cox.net]
Sent: Monday, October 05, 2015 10:54 AM
To: rfraser@bluefrog.com; 'Dave Barakat'
Cc: tigers@Autox.Team.Net
Subject: RE: [Tigers] Tiger oil capacity w/non-stock filter
Ron:
I have the same problem that all these other guys are having; with five
quarts in the sump, my dipstick is showing way overfull, even after I have
run the engine and circulated the oil. My 260 has the reproduction dipstick
and tube also. All this being said, though, I guess the bottom line is that
the 260 sump was designed to hold five quarts of oil and no matter what our
dipsticks may read, we should be putting five quarts in them, correct?
Andy
---- Ron Fraser <rfraser@bluefrog.com> wrote:
> Dave
>
> It looks like I need to investigate the dip stick part further.
>
> The dip stick and dip stick tube should be a matched pair.
>
> Parts List 6601334
> 1224808 Oil Level indicator NOTE - this is a Rootes part # only
> 6100734 Oil Level indicator NOTE - this is a Rootes part # for a
Ford
> part
> C4JZ-6750-A seems to be the Ford part #
>
> 6100489 C2OZ-6754-A Tube - Oil level indicator
>
> Ford Master Parts Catalog - listed for the 260 engine
> C3OZ-6750-B 22.48" shield to full, 23.32" shield to Add, 24.44" shield
to
> tip
> C2OZ-6754-A Tube
>
> This appears to be the correct dip stick and tube combination for the
> Tiger.
>
> Maybe 1224808 is indicated because Rootes had to modify the dip stick.
> The long handle had to be bent to clear the hood. I'm sure this
> prompted Rootes to have Ford correct this issue with a new part -
> possibly the C4JZ-6750-A part - the "J" in this part # indicates a
> Ford Industrial Group supplied part.
>
> The later Tiger dip stick has the handle loop tighter to the shield
> with only a slight bend.
>
> The C3OZ-B and C2OZ-A parts are being reproduced by Scott Drake.
>
> Ron Fraser
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Dave Barakat [mailto:dave.barakat@icloud.com]
> Sent: Monday, October 05, 2015 2:20 AM
> To: rfraser@bluefrog.com
> Cc: Andy Walker; tigers@Autox.Team.Net
> Subject: Re: [Tigers] Tiger oil capacity w/non-stock filter
>
>
> Ron...thanks.this is so helpful and I will measure the stick and tube
> against David's spec. The tube and stick were obtained from SS as
> "dipstick for generator cars" (TM50/TM54), but no other part number
> given.
>
>
>
>
>
> On Oct 4, 2015, at 6:43 PM, Ron Fraser <rfraser@bluefrog.com> wrote:
>
> Dave
> It is very possible you do not have the original dip stick. I'm
> not sure I have the original in my engine either.
>
> Parts List 6601334
> 1224808 Oil Level indicator NOTE - this is a Rootes part # only
> 6100734 Oil Level indicator NOTE - this is a Rootes part # for a
Ford
> part
> C4JZ-6750-A seems to be the Ford part #
> There is no indication about when this part change occurred.
>
> Here is an email from David Franchi - 8/12/2004 with some
> measurements.
>
> The original dip stick & tube measurements are:
> Stick - 24 7/16" from the tip to the inside top of the "bell"
> cover/dust guard. Oil "add" mark 1 1/8" from tip, oil "full" mark 2"
> from tip.
> --
> Tube - 15 15/16" overall. 14 3/4" from the top of the "stop/seating
> ring" (were it goes into the timing gear cover) to the top of the
> tube. 7 5/16" from the top of the tube to the center of the "mounting
> wing".
> --
> With the stick installed in the tube, the tip of the stick protrudes 9
1/2"
> out of the end of the tube. (measured from the tip of the stick to the
> bottom of the tube "stop/seating ring")
> David Franchi
> Ron Fraser
>
>
>
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