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Re: [Tigers] Tiger oil capacity w/non-stock filter

To: "'Dave Munroe'" <dave@munroe.ca>, "'Dave Barakat'" <dave.barakat@icloud.com>
Subject: Re: [Tigers] Tiger oil capacity w/non-stock filter
From: Ron Fraser via Tigers <tigers@autox.team.net>
Date: Mon, 5 Oct 2015 12:40:24 -0400
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Dave
    Ford used the same combination for the engines with generator and a
different set for engines with alternator.
=20
It sounds like you have an alternator set of parts.
=20
Ron Fraser

-----Original Message-----
From: Dave Munroe [mailto:dave@munroe.ca]=20
Sent: Monday, October 05, 2015 11:56 AM
To: Ron Fraser via Tigers; 'Dave Barakat'
Cc: tigers@Autox.Team.Net
Subject: Re: [Tigers] Tiger oil capacity w/non-stock filter


Ron ;

As usual you are a veritable library of facts and dimensions of almost
everything Tiger. Thanks for being so diligent.=20


Do you know if the dipstick/tube =FDsets are the same for 289 blocks?  =
Would
the 289 have a different timing cover that would account for the shorter
stick?


My car came to me with a 289, and the dipstick/tube combination are
considerably different from the dimensions you have for the 260. I have =
felt
for a long time that my engine has a non-standard stick.


My tube is only 10" long, and the dipstick is correspondingly shorter at =
19
1/4". But taking the corresponding dimensions from the tube stop/seating
ring, the "full" mark is out on my stick by roughly 1/2" =FD( the oil =
level is
1/2" more oil in my crank case.)


Not enough for me to worry about,=FD but it would be nice to know if the =
289
specs that level.


Thanks Ron,=20


Dave

Sent from my BlackBerry 10 smartphone on the Bell network.

From: Ron Fraser via Tigers
Sent: Monday, October 5, 2015 12:10 PM
To: 'Dave Barakat'
Reply To: rfraser@bluefrog.com
Cc: tigers@Autox.Team.Net
Subject: Re: [Tigers] Tiger oil capacity w/non-stock filter

Dave=20
=20
    It looks like I need to investigate the dip stick part further.
=20
The dip stick and dip stick tube should be a matched pair.
=20

Parts List 6601334
1224808    Oil Level indicator    NOTE - this is a Rootes part # only
6100734    Oil Level indicator    NOTE - this is a Rootes part # for a =
Ford
part
C4JZ-6750-A seems to be the Ford part #
=20
6100489    C2OZ-6754-A    Tube - Oil level indicator
=20
Ford Master Parts Catalog - listed for the 260 engine
C3OZ-6750-B    22.48" shield to full, 23.32" shield to Add, 24.44" =
shield to
tip
C2OZ-6754-A    Tube
=20
This appears to be the correct dip stick and tube combination for the =
Tiger.
=20
Maybe 1224808 is indicated because Rootes had to modify the dip stick.  =
The
long handle had to be bent to clear the hood.
I'm sure this prompted Rootes to have Ford correct this issue with a new
part - possibly the C4JZ-6750-A part - the "J" in this part # indicates =
a
Ford Industrial Group supplied part.
=20
The later Tiger dip stick has the handle loop tighter to the shield with
only a slight bend.
=20
The C3OZ-B and C2OZ-A parts are being reproduced by Scott Drake.
 =FD
Ron Fraser

-----Original Message-----
From: Dave Barakat [mailto:dave.barakat@icloud.com]=20
Sent: Monday, October 05, 2015 2:20 AM
To: rfraser@bluefrog.com
Cc: Andy Walker; tigers@Autox.Team.Net
Subject: Re: [Tigers] Tiger oil capacity w/non-stock filter


Ron=85..thanks=85this is so helpful and I will measure the stick and =
tube
against David=92s spec. The tube and stick were obtained from SS as  =
=93dipstick
for generator cars=94 (TM50/TM54), but no other part number given.=20





On Oct 4, 2015, at 6:43 PM, Ron Fraser <rfraser@bluefrog.com> wrote:

Dave
    It is very possible you do not have the original dip stick.  I'm not
sure I have the original in my engine either.
=20
Parts List 6601334
1224808    Oil Level indicator    NOTE - this is a Rootes part # only
6100734    Oil Level indicator    NOTE - this is a Rootes part # for a =
Ford
part
C4JZ-6750-A seems to be the Ford part #
There is no indication about when this part change occurred.
=20
Here is an email from David Franchi - 8/12/2004 with some measurements.

The original dip stick & tube measurements are:
Stick - 24 7/16" from the tip to the inside top of the "bell" cover/dust
guard.=20
Oil "add" mark 1 1/8" from tip, oil "full" mark 2" from tip.
--
Tube - 15 15/16" overall. 14 3/4" from the top of the "stop/seating =
ring"
(were it goes into the timing gear cover) to the top of the tube. 7 =
5/16"
from the top of the tube to the center of the "mounting wing".
--
With the stick installed in the tube, the tip of the stick protrudes 9 =
1/2"
out of the end of the tube. (measured from the tip of the stick to the
bottom of the tube "stop/seating ring")=20
David Franchi
Ron Fraser




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<DIV><SPAN class=3D671343716-05102015>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; <FONT =
color=3D#1f497d=20
face=3DCalibri>Ford used the same combination for the engines with =
generator and a=20
different set for engines with alternator.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D671343716-05102015><FONT color=3D#1f497d=20
face=3DCalibri></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D671343716-05102015><FONT color=3D#1f497d =
face=3DCalibri>It sounds=20
like you have an alternator set of parts.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D671343716-05102015><FONT color=3D#1f497d=20
face=3DCalibri></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D671343716-05102015><FONT color=3D#1f497d =
face=3DCalibri>Ron=20
Fraser</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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  <DIV dir=3Dltr lang=3Den-us class=3DOutlookMessageHeader =
align=3Dleft><FONT size=3D2=20
  face=3DTahoma>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B> Dave Munroe=20
  [mailto:dave@munroe.ca] <BR><B>Sent:</B> Monday, October 05, 2015 =
11:56=20
  AM<BR><B>To:</B> Ron Fraser via Tigers; 'Dave Barakat'<BR><B>Cc:</B>=20
  tigers@Autox.Team.Net<BR><B>Subject:</B> Re: [Tigers] Tiger oil =
capacity=20
  w/non-stock filter<BR><BR></FONT></DIV>
  <DIV=20
  style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: rgb(255,255,255); WIDTH: 100%; FONT-FAMILY: =
Calibri, 'Slate Pro', sans-serif, sans-serif; COLOR: rgb(31,73,125)">Ron =

  ;</DIV>
  <DIV=20
  style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: rgb(255,255,255); WIDTH: 100%; FONT-FAMILY: =
Calibri, 'Slate Pro', sans-serif, sans-serif; COLOR: =
rgb(31,73,125)"><BR></DIV>
  <DIV=20
  style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: rgb(255,255,255); WIDTH: 100%; FONT-FAMILY: =
Calibri, 'Slate Pro', sans-serif, sans-serif; COLOR: rgb(31,73,125)">As=20
  usual you are a veritable library of facts and dimensions of almost =
everything=20
  Tiger. Thanks for being so diligent.&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV=20
  style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: rgb(255,255,255); WIDTH: 100%; FONT-FAMILY: =
Calibri, 'Slate Pro', sans-serif, sans-serif; COLOR: =
rgb(31,73,125)"><SPAN><BR></SPAN></DIV>
  <DIV=20
  style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: rgb(255,255,255); WIDTH: 100%; FONT-FAMILY: =
Calibri, 'Slate Pro', sans-serif, sans-serif; COLOR: =
rgb(31,73,125)"><SPAN>Do=20
  you know if the dipstick/tube =FDsets are the same for 289 blocks? =
&nbsp;Would=20
  the 289 have a different timing cover that would account for the =
shorter=20
  stick?</SPAN></DIV>
  <DIV=20
  style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: rgb(255,255,255); WIDTH: 100%; FONT-FAMILY: =
Calibri, 'Slate Pro', sans-serif, sans-serif; COLOR: =
rgb(31,73,125)"><SPAN><BR></SPAN></DIV>
  <DIV=20
  style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: rgb(255,255,255); WIDTH: 100%; FONT-FAMILY: =
Calibri, 'Slate Pro', sans-serif, sans-serif; COLOR: =
rgb(31,73,125)"><SPAN>My=20
  car came to me with a 289, and the dipstick/tube combination are =
considerably=20
  different from the dimensions you have for the 260. I have felt for a =
long=20
  time that my engine has a non-standard stick.</SPAN></DIV>
  <DIV=20
  style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: rgb(255,255,255); WIDTH: 100%; FONT-FAMILY: =
Calibri, 'Slate Pro', sans-serif, sans-serif; COLOR: =
rgb(31,73,125)"><SPAN><BR></SPAN></DIV>
  <DIV=20
  style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: rgb(255,255,255); WIDTH: 100%; FONT-FAMILY: =
Calibri, 'Slate Pro', sans-serif, sans-serif; COLOR: =
rgb(31,73,125)"><SPAN>My=20
  tube is only 10" long, and the dipstick is correspondingly shorter at =
19 1/4".=20
  But taking the corresponding dimensions from the tube stop/seating =
ring, the=20
  "full" mark is out on my stick by roughly 1/2" =FD( the oil level is =
1/2" more=20
  oil in my crank case.)</SPAN></DIV>
  <DIV=20
  style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: rgb(255,255,255); WIDTH: 100%; FONT-FAMILY: =
Calibri, 'Slate Pro', sans-serif, sans-serif; COLOR: =
rgb(31,73,125)"><SPAN><BR></SPAN></DIV>
  <DIV=20
  style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: rgb(255,255,255); WIDTH: 100%; FONT-FAMILY: =
Calibri, 'Slate Pro', sans-serif, sans-serif; COLOR: =
rgb(31,73,125)"><SPAN>Not=20
  enough for me to worry about,=FD but it would be nice to know if the =
289 specs=20
  that level.</SPAN></DIV>
  <DIV=20
  style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: rgb(255,255,255); WIDTH: 100%; FONT-FAMILY: =
Calibri, 'Slate Pro', sans-serif, sans-serif; COLOR: =
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rgb(31,73,125)"><SPAN>Thanks=20
  Ron,&nbsp;</SPAN></DIV>
  <DIV=20
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        <DIV><B>From: </B>Ron Fraser via Tigers</DIV>
        <DIV><B>Sent: </B>Monday, October 5, 2015 12:10 PM</DIV>
        <DIV><B>To: </B>'Dave Barakat'</DIV>
        <DIV><B>Reply To: </B>rfraser@bluefrog.com</DIV>
        <DIV><B>Cc: </B>tigers@Autox.Team.Net</DIV>
        <DIV><B>Subject: </B>Re: [Tigers] Tiger oil capacity w/non-stock =

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class=3D875321714-05102015>Dave=20
  </SPAN></FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT color=3D#0000ff size=3D2 face=3DArial><SPAN=20
  class=3D875321714-05102015></SPAN></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT color=3D#0000ff size=3D2 face=3DArial><SPAN=20
  class=3D875321714-05102015>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; It looks like I need to=20
  investigate the dip stick part further.</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT color=3D#0000ff size=3D2 face=3DArial><SPAN=20
  class=3D875321714-05102015></SPAN></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT color=3D#0000ff size=3D2 face=3DArial><SPAN =
class=3D875321714-05102015>The=20
  dip stick and dip stick tube should be a matched =
pair.</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT color=3D#0000ff size=3D2 face=3DArial><SPAN=20
  class=3D875321714-05102015></SPAN></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><SPAN class=3D875321714-05102015>
  <DIV><SPAN class=3D822013001-05102015><FONT color=3D#0000ff size=3D2=20
  face=3DArial>Parts List 6601334</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
  <DIV><SPAN class=3D822013001-05102015><FONT color=3D#0000ff size=3D2=20
  face=3DArial>1224808&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Oil Level =
indicator&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
  NOTE - this is a Rootes part # only</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
  <DIV><SPAN class=3D822013001-05102015><FONT color=3D#0000ff size=3D2=20
  face=3DArial>6100734&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Oil Level =
indicator&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
  NOTE - this is a Rootes part # for a Ford part</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
  <DIV><SPAN class=3D822013001-05102015><FONT color=3D#0000ff size=3D2=20
  face=3DArial>C4JZ-6750-A seems to be the Ford part =
#</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
  <DIV><SPAN class=3D822013001-05102015><FONT color=3D#0000ff size=3D2=20
  face=3DArial></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><SPAN class=3D822013001-05102015><SPAN =
class=3D875321714-05102015><FONT=20
  color=3D#0000ff size=3D2 face=3DArial>6100489&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
  C2OZ-6754-A&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Tube - Oil level=20
  indicator</FONT></SPAN></SPAN></DIV>
  <DIV><SPAN class=3D822013001-05102015><SPAN =
class=3D875321714-05102015><FONT=20
  color=3D#0000ff size=3D2 =
face=3DArial></FONT></SPAN></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><SPAN class=3D822013001-05102015><SPAN =
class=3D875321714-05102015><FONT=20
  color=3D#0000ff size=3D2 face=3DArial>Ford Master Parts Catalog - =
listed for the 260=20
  engine</FONT></SPAN></SPAN></DIV>
  <DIV><SPAN class=3D822013001-05102015><SPAN =
class=3D875321714-05102015><FONT=20
  color=3D#0000ff size=3D2 face=3DArial>C3OZ-6750-B&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; =
22.48" shield to=20
  full, 23.32" shield to Add, 24.44" shield to =
tip</FONT></SPAN></SPAN></DIV>
  <DIV><SPAN class=3D822013001-05102015><SPAN =
class=3D875321714-05102015><FONT=20
  color=3D#0000ff size=3D2 face=3DArial>C2OZ-6754-A&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
  Tube</FONT></SPAN></SPAN></DIV>
  <DIV><SPAN class=3D822013001-05102015><SPAN =
class=3D875321714-05102015><FONT=20
  color=3D#0000ff size=3D2 =
face=3DArial></FONT></SPAN></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><SPAN class=3D822013001-05102015><SPAN =
class=3D875321714-05102015><FONT=20
  color=3D#0000ff size=3D2 face=3DArial>This appears to be the correct =
dip stick and=20
  tube combination for the Tiger.</FONT></SPAN></SPAN></DIV>
  <DIV><SPAN class=3D822013001-05102015><SPAN =
class=3D875321714-05102015><FONT=20
  color=3D#0000ff size=3D2 =
face=3DArial></FONT></SPAN></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><SPAN class=3D822013001-05102015><SPAN =
class=3D875321714-05102015><FONT=20
  color=3D#0000ff size=3D2 face=3DArial>Maybe 1224808 is indicated =
because Rootes had=20
  to modify the dip stick.&nbsp; The long handle had to be bent to clear =
the=20
  hood.</FONT></SPAN></SPAN></DIV>
  <DIV><SPAN class=3D822013001-05102015><SPAN =
class=3D875321714-05102015><FONT=20
  color=3D#0000ff size=3D2 face=3DArial>I'm sure this prompted Rootes to =
have Ford=20
  correct this issue with a new part - possibly the C4JZ-6750-A part - =
the "J"=20
  in this part # indicates a Ford Industrial Group supplied=20
  part.</FONT></SPAN></SPAN></DIV>
  <DIV><SPAN class=3D822013001-05102015><SPAN =
class=3D875321714-05102015><FONT=20
  color=3D#0000ff size=3D2 =
face=3DArial></FONT></SPAN></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><SPAN class=3D822013001-05102015><SPAN =
class=3D875321714-05102015><FONT=20
  color=3D#0000ff size=3D2 face=3DArial>The later Tiger dip stick has =
the handle loop=20
  tighter to the&nbsp;shield with only a slight =
bend.</FONT></SPAN></SPAN></DIV>
  <DIV><SPAN class=3D822013001-05102015><SPAN =
class=3D875321714-05102015><FONT=20
  color=3D#0000ff size=3D2 =
face=3DArial></FONT></SPAN></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><SPAN class=3D822013001-05102015><SPAN =
class=3D875321714-05102015><FONT=20
  color=3D#0000ff size=3D2 face=3DArial>The C3OZ-B and C2OZ-A parts are =
being=20
  reproduced by Scott Drake.</FONT></SPAN></SPAN></DIV>
  <DIV><SPAN class=3D822013001-05102015><SPAN =
class=3D875321714-05102015><FONT=20
  color=3D#0000ff size=3D2 =
face=3DArial></FONT></SPAN></SPAN>&nbsp;=FD</DIV>
  <DIV><SPAN class=3D822013001-05102015><SPAN =
class=3D875321714-05102015><FONT=20
  color=3D#0000ff size=3D2 face=3DArial>Ron=20
  Fraser</FONT></SPAN></SPAN></DIV></SPAN></DIV>
  <BLOCKQUOTE style=3D"MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px" dir=3Dltr>
    <DIV></DIV>
    <DIV dir=3Dltr lang=3Den-us class=3DOutlookMessageHeader =
align=3Dleft><FONT size=3D2=20
    face=3DTahoma>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B> Dave =
Barakat=20
    [mailto:dave.barakat@icloud.com] <BR><B>Sent:</B> Monday, October =
05, 2015=20
    2:20 AM<BR><B>To:</B> rfraser@bluefrog.com<BR><B>Cc:</B> Andy =
Walker;=20
    tigers@Autox.Team.Net<BR><B>Subject:</B> Re: [Tigers] Tiger oil =
capacity=20
    w/non-stock filter<BR><BR></FONT></DIV>Ron=85..thanks=85this is so =
helpful and I=20
    will measure the stick and tube against David=92s spec. The tube and =
stick=20
    were obtained from SS as &nbsp;=93dipstick for generator cars=94 =
(TM50/TM54),=20
    but no other part number given.=20
    <DIV><BR></DIV>
    <DIV><BR></DIV>
    <DIV><BR></DIV>
    <DIV><BR>
    <DIV>
    <BLOCKQUOTE type=3D"cite">
      <DIV>On Oct 4, 2015, at 6:43 PM, Ron Fraser &lt;<A=20
      href=3D"mailto:rfraser@bluefrog.com";>rfraser@bluefrog.com</A>&gt;=20
      wrote:</DIV><BR class=3DApple-interchange-newline>
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size=3D2=20
      face=3DArial>Dave</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
      <DIV><SPAN class=3D822013001-05102015>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; <FONT =
color=3D#0000ff=20
      size=3D2 face=3DArial>It is very possible you do not have the =
original dip=20
      stick.&nbsp; I'm not sure I have the original in my engine=20
      either.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
      <DIV><SPAN class=3D822013001-05102015><FONT color=3D#0000ff =
size=3D2=20
      face=3DArial></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
      <DIV><SPAN class=3D822013001-05102015><FONT color=3D#0000ff =
size=3D2=20
      face=3DArial>Parts List 6601334</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
      <DIV><SPAN class=3D822013001-05102015><FONT color=3D#0000ff =
size=3D2=20
      face=3DArial>1224808&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Oil Level =
indicator&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
      NOTE - this is a Rootes part # only</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
      <DIV><SPAN class=3D822013001-05102015><FONT color=3D#0000ff =
size=3D2=20
      face=3DArial>6100734&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Oil Level =
indicator&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
      NOTE - this is a Rootes part # for a Ford part</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
      <DIV><SPAN class=3D822013001-05102015><FONT color=3D#0000ff =
size=3D2=20
      face=3DArial>C4JZ-6750-A seems to be the Ford part =
#</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
      <DIV><SPAN class=3D822013001-05102015><FONT color=3D#0000ff =
size=3D2=20
      face=3DArial>There is no indication about when this part change=20
      occurred.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
      <DIV><SPAN class=3D822013001-05102015><FONT color=3D#0000ff =
size=3D2=20
      face=3DArial></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
      <DIV><SPAN class=3D822013001-05102015><FONT color=3D#0000ff =
size=3D2=20
      face=3DArial>Here is an email from David Franchi - 8/12/2004 with =
some=20
      measurements.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
      <DIV><SPAN class=3D822013001-05102015><SPAN lang=3DEN>
      <DIV>The original dip stick &amp; tube measurements are:</DIV>
      <DIV>Stick - 24 7/16" from the tip to the inside top of the "bell" =

      cover/dust guard. </DIV>
      <DIV>Oil "add" mark 1 1/8" from tip, oil "full" mark 2" from =
tip.</DIV>
      <DIV>--</DIV>
      <DIV>Tube - 15 15/16" overall. 14 3/4" from the top of the =
"stop/seating=20
      ring" (were it goes into the timing gear cover) to the top of the =
tube. 7=20
      5/16" from the top of the tube to the center of the "mounting =
wing".</DIV>
      <DIV>--</DIV>
      <DIV>With the stick installed in the tube, the tip of the stick =
protrudes=20
      9 1/2" out of the end of the tube. (measured from the tip of the =
stick to=20
      the bottom of the tube "stop/seating ring") </DIV>
      <DIV>David Franchi</DIV>
      <DIV><SPAN class=3D822013001-05102015><FONT color=3D#0000ff =
size=3D2=20
      face=3DArial>Ron Fraser</FONT></SPAN></DIV></SPAN></SPAN></DIV>
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  <P align=3Dleft color=3D"#000000" avgcert??>No virus found in this=20
  message.<BR>Checked by AVG - <A=20
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