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Re: [Tigers] Tiger oil capacity w/non-stock filter

To: rfraser@bluefrog.com, 'Dave Barakat' <dave.barakat@icloud.com>
Subject: Re: [Tigers] Tiger oil capacity w/non-stock filter
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Date: Mon, 5 Oct 2015 10:54:12 -0400
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Ron:

I have the same problem that all these other guys are having; with five quarts 
in the sump, my dipstick is showing way overfull, even after I have run the 
engine and circulated the oil.  My 260 has the reproduction dipstick and tube 
also.  All this being said, though, I guess the bottom line is that the 260 
sump was designed to hold five quarts of oil and no matter what our dipsticks 
may read, we should be putting five quarts in them, correct?

Andy 

----  Ron Fraser <rfraser@bluefrog.com> wrote: 
> Dave 
>  
>     It looks like I need to investigate the dip stick part further.
>  
> The dip stick and dip stick tube should be a matched pair.
>  
> Parts List 6601334
> 1224808    Oil Level indicator    NOTE - this is a Rootes part # only
> 6100734    Oil Level indicator    NOTE - this is a Rootes part # for a Ford
> part
> C4JZ-6750-A seems to be the Ford part #
>  
> 6100489    C2OZ-6754-A    Tube - Oil level indicator
>  
> Ford Master Parts Catalog - listed for the 260 engine
> C3OZ-6750-B    22.48" shield to full, 23.32" shield to Add, 24.44" shield to
> tip
> C2OZ-6754-A    Tube
>  
> This appears to be the correct dip stick and tube combination for the Tiger.
>  
> Maybe 1224808 is indicated because Rootes had to modify the dip stick.  The
> long handle had to be bent to clear the hood.
> I'm sure this prompted Rootes to have Ford correct this issue with a new
> part - possibly the C4JZ-6750-A part - the "J" in this part # indicates a
> Ford Industrial Group supplied part.
>  
> The later Tiger dip stick has the handle loop tighter to the shield with
> only a slight bend.
>  
> The C3OZ-B and C2OZ-A parts are being reproduced by Scott Drake.
>  
> Ron Fraser
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Dave Barakat [mailto:dave.barakat@icloud.com] 
> Sent: Monday, October 05, 2015 2:20 AM
> To: rfraser@bluefrog.com
> Cc: Andy Walker; tigers@Autox.Team.Net
> Subject: Re: [Tigers] Tiger oil capacity w/non-stock filter
> 
> 
> Ron...thanks.this is so helpful and I will measure the stick and tube
> against David's spec. The tube and stick were obtained from SS as  "dipstick
> for generator cars" (TM50/TM54), but no other part number given. 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On Oct 4, 2015, at 6:43 PM, Ron Fraser <rfraser@bluefrog.com> wrote:
> 
> Dave
>     It is very possible you do not have the original dip stick.  I'm not
> sure I have the original in my engine either.
>  
> Parts List 6601334
> 1224808    Oil Level indicator    NOTE - this is a Rootes part # only
> 6100734    Oil Level indicator    NOTE - this is a Rootes part # for a Ford
> part
> C4JZ-6750-A seems to be the Ford part #
> There is no indication about when this part change occurred.
>  
> Here is an email from David Franchi - 8/12/2004 with some measurements.
> 
> The original dip stick & tube measurements are:
> Stick - 24 7/16" from the tip to the inside top of the "bell" cover/dust
> guard. 
> Oil "add" mark 1 1/8" from tip, oil "full" mark 2" from tip.
> --
> Tube - 15 15/16" overall. 14 3/4" from the top of the "stop/seating ring"
> (were it goes into the timing gear cover) to the top of the tube. 7 5/16"
> from the top of the tube to the center of the "mounting wing".
> --
> With the stick installed in the tube, the tip of the stick protrudes 9 1/2"
> out of the end of the tube. (measured from the tip of the stick to the
> bottom of the tube "stop/seating ring") 
> David Franchi
> Ron Fraser
> 
> 
> 

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