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Yes, a fairly nasty post altogether.
Simon
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From: Healeys <healeys-bounces@autox.team.net> On Behalf Of Jim Ryan
Sent: 06 October 2022 20:14
To: josef-eckert@t-online.de
Cc: Forum Healey <healeys@autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: [Healeys] Sad news - Rallyist Killed in Healey 100
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Well, THAT was harsh. You might want to forward that to his family just =
so they know how you feel about him. When exactly is it you think we =
should all stop driving? Is it 75? 80? I'm 71, I just want to get =
your advice on what age I'm endangering other people.
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That was easily the most insensitive posting I have ever seen on this =
list.
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On Thu, Oct 6, 2022 at 11:52 AM josef-eckert--- via Healeys =
To be honest, I have no respect for such a person, or better 82 years =
old fart who brought others in danger with his driving. Thankfully no =
other person was invoved and injured.=20
Its very common all over in central Europe to have these ditches, trees =
or even walls along country roads. That is how we love it.=20
For big money you can book in to take part in one of these leasure =
ra=C4=BAlys, where you get all accomodation organised, only you have to =
come from a to b along. these rallys are mainly booked from those mainly =
elderly people who do not know what to do otherwise with their money, =
even they are completely overextended by driving an old classic car.=20
One should be wise enough to give up driving, when you are no more =
capable to drive.=20
I am only sorry about the wrecked Austin-Healey.
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Josef Eckert
konigswinter/GERMANY
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Von: "Michael Oritt" <michael.oritt@gmail.com>=20
An: "Michael Salter" <michaelsalter@gmail.com =
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Michael--=20
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Most of them weren't "open" ditches--they were filled with rocks. =20
I fondly recall the time we missed a left-hander, went off the road, =
somehow hurtled OVER the ditch and landed in a tree in a fellow's front =
yard. As I remember it he stood there rather stunned while we cleared =
the branches out of the wheel openings, then hopped into the car and =
took off without much conversation.=20
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Best--Michael Oritt=20
On Wed, Oct 5, 2022 at 10:36 PM Michael Salter via Healeys =
"all the roads are surrounded by open drainage ditches."=20
Just like Newfoundland which for me was a major factor in giving up on =
the Targa there.=20
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On Wed., Oct. 5, 2022, 1:06 a.m. Alan Seigrist via Healeys, =
Italian roads are amazing for driving through beautiful countryside, but =
they are deadly because all the roads are surrounded by open drainage =
ditches.=20
On Wed, 5 Oct 2022 at 3:27 AM, Richard Kahn via Healeys =
I saw this yesterday. Very sad on so many levels. I was wondering if =
this is the drive a number of the Southern California Healey Association =
members are on in Europe at this moment.=20
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From: Healeys <healeys-bounces@autox.team.net =
Sent: Tuesday, October 4, 2022 5:40 AM=20
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Subject: [Healeys] Sad news - Rallyist Killed in Healey 100=20
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Awful. =20
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lly-austin-healey/=20
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vlink=3Dpurple><div class=3DWordSection1><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>Yes, a fairly nasty post =
altogether.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>Simon<o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><b><span lang=3DEN-US>From:</span></b><span =
lang=3DEN-US> Healeys <healeys-bounces@autox.team.net> <b>On =
Behalf Of </b>Jim Ryan<br><b>Sent:</b> 06 October 2022 =
20:14<br><b>To:</b> josef-eckert@t-online.de<br><b>Cc:</b> Forum Healey =
<healeys@autox.team.net><br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Healeys] Sad news =
- Rallyist Killed in Healey 100<o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><p class=3DMsoNormal>Well, =
THAT was harsh. You might want to forward that to his family just =
so they know how you feel about him. When exactly is it you =
think we should all stop driving? Is it 75? 80? =
I'm 71, I just want to get your advice on what age I'm =
endangering other people.<o:p></o:p></p><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>That was easily the most insensitive posting I =
have ever seen on this list.<o:p></o:p></p></div></div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal>On =
Thu, Oct 6, 2022 at 11:52 AM josef-eckert--- via Healeys <<a =
href=3D"mailto:healeys@autox.team.net";>healeys@autox.team.net</a>> =
wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div><blockquote =
style=3D'border:none;border-left:solid #CCCCCC 1.0pt;padding:0cm 0cm 0cm =
6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-right:0cm'><div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'background:white'>To be honest, I have no respect for such a =
person, or better 82 years old fart who brought others in danger with =
his driving. Thankfully no other person was invoved and injured. =
<br><br>Its very common all over in central Europe to have these =
ditches, trees or even walls along country roads. That is how we love =
it. <br><br>For big money you can book in to take part in one of these =
leasure ra=C4=BAlys, where you get all accomodation organised, only you =
have to come from a to b along. these rallys are mainly booked from =
those mainly elderly people who do not know what to do otherwise with =
their money, even they are completely overextended by driving an old =
classic car. <br><br>One should be wise enough to give up driving, when =
you are no more capable to drive. <br><br>I am only sorry about the =
wrecked Austin-Healey.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'background:white'> <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'background:white'>Josef =
Eckert<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'margin-bottom:12.0pt;background:white'>konigswinter/GERMANY<br><=
br><br> <br><br> <br><br> =
<br><br>-----Original-Nachricht----- <br><br>Betreff: Re: [Healeys] Sad =
news - Rallyist Killed in Healey 100 <br><br>Datum: =
2022-10-06T10:31:49+0200 <br><br>Von: "Michael Oritt" <<a =
href=3D"mailto:michael.oritt@gmail.com"; =
target=3D"_blank">michael.oritt@gmail.com</a>> <br><br>An: =
"Michael Salter" <<a =
href=3D"mailto:michaelsalter@gmail.com"; =
target=3D"_blank">michaelsalter@gmail.com</a>> <br><br> =
<br><br> <br><br> <br><br>Michael-- <br><br> =
<br><br>Most of them weren't "open" ditches--they were filled =
with rocks. <br><br>I fondly recall the time we missed a =
left-hander, went off the road, somehow hurtled OVER the ditch and =
landed in a tree in a fellow's front yard. As I remember it he =
stood there rather stunned while we cleared the branches out of the =
wheel openings, then hopped into the car and took off without much =
conversation. <br><br> <br><br>Best--Michael Oritt <br><br><br>On =
Wed, Oct 5, 2022 at 10:36 PM Michael Salter via Healeys <<a =
href=3D"mailto:healeys@autox.team.net"; =
target=3D"_blank">healeys@autox.team.net</a>> wrote: =
<br><br>"all the roads are surrounded by open drainage =
ditches." <br><br>Just like Newfoundland which for me was a major =
factor in giving up on the Targa there. <br><br> <br><br>M =
<br><br>On Wed., Oct. 5, 2022, 1:06 a.m. Alan Seigrist via Healeys, =
<<a href=3D"mailto:healeys@autox.team.net"; =
target=3D"_blank">healeys@autox.team.net</a>> wrote: <br><br>Italian =
roads are amazing for driving through beautiful countryside, but they =
are deadly because all the roads are surrounded by open drainage =
ditches. <br><br><br>On Wed, 5 Oct 2022 at 3:27 AM, Richard Kahn via =
Healeys <<a href=3D"mailto:healeys@autox.team.net"; =
target=3D"_blank">healeys@autox.team.net</a>> wrote: <br><br>I saw =
this yesterday. Very sad on so many levels. I was wondering if this is =
the drive a number of the Southern California Healey Association members =
are on in Europe at this moment. <br><br> <br><br>From: Healeys =
<<a href=3D"mailto:healeys-bounces@autox.team.net"; =
target=3D"_blank">healeys-bounces@autox.team.net</a>> on behalf of =
Randy Hicks via Healeys <<a href=3D"mailto:healeys@autox.team.net"; =
target=3D"_blank">healeys@autox.team.net</a>> <br>Sent: Tuesday, =
October 4, 2022 5:40 AM <br>To: Healey List <<a =
href=3D"mailto:healeys@autox.team.net"; =
target=3D"_blank">healeys@autox.team.net</a>> <br>Subject: [Healeys] =
Sad news - Rallyist Killed in Healey 100 <br><br> =
<br><br>Awful. <br><br> <br><br><a =
href=3D"https://www.the-sun.com/news/6355269/british-expat-killed-horror-=
crash-rally-austin-healey/" =
target=3D"_blank">https://www.the-sun.com/news/6355269/british-expat-kill=
ed-horror-crash-rally-austin-healey/</a> <br><br> <br><br>Randy =
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