Re: [Healeys] Sad news - Rallyist Killed in Healey 100

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I concur. Was that rally particularly dangerous?
BP, 61BT7.

On Thu, 6 Oct 2022 15:14:18 -0400 Jim Ryan <ryan@jimryan.com> writes:
Well, THAT was harsh.  You might want to forward that to his family just
so they know how you feel about him.  When exactly is it you think  we
should all stop driving?  Is it 75?  80?  I'm 71, I just want to get your
advice on what age I'm endangering other people.


That was easily the most insensitive posting I have ever seen on this
list.


On Thu, Oct 6, 2022 at 11:52 AM josef-eckert--- via Healeys
<healeys@autox.team.net> wrote:

To be honest, I have no respect for such a person, or better 82 years old
fart who brought others in danger with his driving. Thankfully no other
person was invoved and injured. 

Its very common all over in central Europe to have these ditches, trees
or even walls along country roads. That is how we love it. 

For big money you can book in to take part in one of these leasure
rallys, where you get all accomodation organised, only you have to come
from a to b along. these rallys are mainly booked from those mainly
elderly people who do not know what to do otherwise with their money,
even they are completely overextended by driving an old classic car. 

One should be wise enough to give up driving, when you are no more
capable to drive. 

I am only sorry about the wrecked Austin-Healey.

Josef Eckert
konigswinter/GERMANY


  

  

  

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Betreff: Re: [Healeys] Sad news - Rallyist Killed in Healey 100 

Datum: 2022-10-06T10:31:49+0200 

Von: "Michael Oritt" <michael.oritt@gmail.com> 

An: "Michael Salter" <michaelsalter@gmail.com> 

  

  

  

Michael-- 

  

Most of them weren't "open" ditches--they were filled with rocks.   

I fondly recall the time we missed a left-hander, went off the road,
somehow hurtled OVER the ditch and landed in a tree in a fellow's front
yard.  As I remember it he stood there rather stunned while we cleared
the branches out of the wheel openings, then hopped into the car and took
off without much conversation. 

  

Best--Michael Oritt 


On Wed, Oct 5, 2022 at 10:36 PM Michael Salter via Healeys
<healeys@autox.team.net> wrote: 

"all the roads are surrounded by open drainage ditches." 

Just like Newfoundland which for me was a major factor in giving up on
the Targa there. 

  

M 

On Wed., Oct. 5, 2022, 1:06 a.m. Alan Seigrist via Healeys,
<healeys@autox.team.net> wrote: 

Italian roads are amazing for driving through beautiful countryside, but
they are deadly because all the roads are surrounded by open drainage
ditches. 


On Wed, 5 Oct 2022 at 3:27 AM, Richard Kahn via Healeys
<healeys@autox.team.net> wrote: 

I saw this yesterday. Very sad on so many levels. I was wondering if this
is the drive a number of the Southern California Healey Association
members are on in Europe at this moment. 

  

From: Healeys <healeys-bounces@autox.team.net> on behalf of Randy Hicks
via Healeys <healeys@autox.team.net> 
Sent: Tuesday, October 4, 2022 5:40 AM 
To: Healey List <healeys@autox.team.net> 
Subject: [Healeys] Sad news - Rallyist Killed in Healey 100 

  

Awful.  

  

https://www.the-sun.com/news/6355269/british-expat-killed-horror-crash-ra
lly-austin-healey/ 

  

Randy 

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<DIV>I concur. Was that rally particularly dangerous?</DIV>
<DIV>BP, 61BT7.</DIV>
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<DIV>On Thu, 6 Oct 2022 15:14:18 -0400 Jim Ryan &lt;<A=20
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fondly=20
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    target=3D_blank>healeys@autox.team.net</A>&gt; wrote: <BR><BR>Italian =
roads=20
    are amazing for driving through beautiful countryside, but they are =
deadly=20
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    <BR><BR><BR>On Wed, 5 Oct 2022 at 3:27 AM, Richard Kahn via Healeys &lt=
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this=20
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drive=20
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    href=3D"mailto:healeys-bounces@autox.team.net"=20
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