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Subject: Re: [Healeys] Sad news - Rallyist Killed in Healey 100
From: Mike Sinclair <phoenix722@comcast.net>
Date: Thu, 6 Oct 2022 14:23:18 -0700
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Maybe you better quit driving, now Josef, before you get old and decrepit.

Mike

Age 82

On 10/6/22 12:32 PM, josef-eckert--- via Healeys wrote:
>
> Yes, please forward my comment to his family.
>
> This person hasn´t recognizsed his limits and was a danger for other 
> people on the road, drivers, bikers and cyclists, and even 
> pedestrians, which are on our rural roads as well and also want to 
> live and be not hurt by such a person.
>
> Sorry, no mercy at all from my side.
>
> -----Original-Nachricht-----
>
> Betreff: Re: [Healeys] Sad news - Rallyist Killed in Healey 100
>
> Datum: 2022-10-06T21:15:03+0200
>
> Von: "Jim Ryan" <ryan@jimryan.com>
>
> An: "josef-eckert@t-online.de" <josef-eckert@t-online.de>
>
> Well, THAT was harsh.  You might want to forward that to his family 
> just so they know how you feel about him. When exactly is it you 
> think  we should all stop driving?  Is it 75?  80?  I'm 71, I just 
> want to get your advice on what age I'm endangering other people.
> That was easily the most insensitive posting I have ever seen on this 
> list.
>
> On Thu, Oct 6, 2022 at 11:52 AM josef-eckert--- via Healeys 
> <healeys@autox.team.net> wrote:
>
>     To be honest, I have no respect for such a person, or better 82
>     years old fart who brought others in danger with his driving.
>     Thankfully no other person was invoved and injured.
>
>     Its very common all over in central Europe to have these ditches,
>     trees or even walls along country roads. That is how we love it.
>
>     For big money you can book in to take part in one of these leasure
>     raĺlys, where you get all accomodation organised, only you have to
>     come from a to b along. these rallys are mainly booked from those
>     mainly elderly people who do not know what to do otherwise with
>     their money, even they are completely overextended by driving an
>     old classic car.
>
>     One should be wise enough to give up driving, when you are no more
>     capable to drive.
>
>     I am only sorry about the wrecked Austin-Healey.
>     Josef Eckert
>     konigswinter/GERMANY
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>     -----Original-Nachricht-----
>
>     Betreff: Re: [Healeys] Sad news - Rallyist Killed in Healey 100
>
>     Datum: 2022-10-06T10:31:49+0200
>
>     Von: "Michael Oritt" <michael.oritt@gmail.com>
>
>     An: "Michael Salter" <michaelsalter@gmail.com>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>     Michael--
>
>
>
>     Most of them weren't "open" ditches--they were filled with rocks.
>
>     I fondly recall the time we missed a left-hander, went off the
>     road, somehow hurtled OVER the ditch and landed in a tree in a
>     fellow's front yard.  As I remember it he stood there rather
>     stunned while we cleared the branches out of the wheel openings,
>     then hopped into the car and took off without much conversation.
>
>
>
>     Best--Michael Oritt
>
>
>     On Wed, Oct 5, 2022 at 10:36 PM Michael Salter via Healeys
>     <healeys@autox.team.net> wrote:
>
>     "all the roads are surrounded by open drainage ditches."
>
>     Just like Newfoundland which for me was a major factor in giving
>     up on the Targa there.
>
>
>
>     M
>
>     On Wed., Oct. 5, 2022, 1:06 a.m. Alan Seigrist via Healeys,
>     <healeys@autox.team.net> wrote:
>
>     Italian roads are amazing for driving through beautiful
>     countryside, but they are deadly because all the roads are
>     surrounded by open drainage ditches.
>
>
>     On Wed, 5 Oct 2022 at 3:27 AM, Richard Kahn via Healeys
>     <healeys@autox.team.net> wrote:
>
>     I saw this yesterday. Very sad on so many levels. I was wondering
>     if this is the drive a number of the Southern California Healey
>     Association members are on in Europe at this moment.
>
>
>
>     From: Healeys <healeys-bounces@autox.team.net> on behalf of Randy
>     Hicks via Healeys <healeys@autox.team.net>
>     Sent: Tuesday, October 4, 2022 5:40 AM
>     To: Healey List <healeys@autox.team.net>
>     Subject: [Healeys] Sad news - Rallyist Killed in Healey 100
>
>
>
>     Awful.
>
>
>
>     
> https://www.the-sun.com/news/6355269/british-expat-killed-horror-crash-rally-austin-healey/
>
>
>
>
>     Randy
>
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    <p><font face="Tahoma">Maybe you better quit driving, now Josef,
        before you get old and decrepit.</font></p>
    <p><font face="Tahoma">Mike</font></p>
    <p><font face="Tahoma">Age 82</font><br>
    </p>
    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 10/6/22 12:32 PM, josef-eckert---
      via Healeys wrote:<br>
    </div>
    <blockquote type="cite"
cite="mid:1665084756934.1341123.bc03ba6a6b69b4567ba787427086f302366bf96e@spica.telekom.de">
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      <p style="margin: 0px;"><span
style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:10pt;color:#000000;text-decoration:none">Yes,
          please forward my comment to his family. </span></p>
      <p style="margin: 0px;"><span
style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:10pt;color:#000000;text-decoration:none">This
          person hasn´t recognizsed his limits and was a danger for
          other people on the road, drivers, bikers and cyclists, and
          even pedestrians, which are on our rural roads as well and
          also want to live and be not hurt by such a person.<br>
        </span></p>
      <p style="margin: 0px;"><span
style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:10pt;color:#000000;text-decoration:none">Sorry,
          no mercy at all from my side.</span></p>
      <p style="margin: 0px;"> </p>
      <p style="margin: 0px;"> </p>
      <p style="margin: 0px;"> </p>
      <p style="margin: 0px;"><span
style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:10pt;color:#000000;text-decoration:none"> </span></p>
      <p style="margin: 0px;"> </p>
      <p style="margin: 0px;"> </p>
      <p style="margin: 0px;">-----Original-Nachricht-----</p>
      <p style="margin: 0px;">Betreff: Re: [Healeys] Sad news - Rallyist
        Killed in Healey 100</p>
      <p style="margin: 0px;">Datum: 2022-10-06T21:15:03+0200</p>
      <p style="margin: 0px;">Von: "Jim Ryan" <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" 
href="mailto:ryan@jimryan.com";>&lt;ryan@jimryan.com&gt;</a></p>
      <p style="margin: 0px;">An: <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" 
href="mailto:josef-eckert@t-online.de";>"josef-eckert@t-online.de"</a>
        <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" 
href="mailto:josef-eckert@t-online.de";>&lt;josef-eckert@t-online.de&gt;</a></p>
      <p style="margin: 0px;"> </p>
      <p style="margin: 0px;"> </p>
      <p style="margin: 0px;"> </p>
      <div>
        <div dir="ltr">Well, THAT was harsh.  You might want to forward
          that to his family just so they know how you feel about him. 
          When exactly is it you think  we should all stop driving?  Is
          it 75?  80?  I'm 71, I just want to get your advice on what
          age I'm endangering other people.
          <div> </div>
          <div>That was easily the most insensitive posting I have ever
            seen on this list.</div>
        </div>
        <br>
        <div class="gmail_quote">
          <div class="gmail_attr" dir="ltr">On Thu, Oct 6, 2022 at 11:52
            AM josef-eckert--- via Healeys &lt;<a
              href="mailto:healeys@autox.team.net";
              moz-do-not-send="true" 
class="moz-txt-link-freetext">healeys@autox.team.net</a>&gt;
            wrote:</div>
          <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0px 0px 0px
            0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid #cccccc; padding-left: 1ex;">
            <div>
              <div style="background-color: white;">To be honest, I have
                no respect for such a person, or better 82 years old
                fart who brought others in danger with his driving.
                Thankfully no other person was invoved and injured. <br>
                <br>
                Its very common all over in central Europe to have these
                ditches, trees or even walls along country roads. That
                is how we love it. <br>
                <br>
                For big money you can book in to take part in one of
                these leasure raĺlys, where you get all accomodation
                organised, only you have to come from a to b along.
                these rallys are mainly booked from those mainly elderly
                people who do not know what to do otherwise with their
                money, even they are completely overextended by driving
                an old classic car. <br>
                <br>
                One should be wise enough to give up driving, when you
                are no more capable to drive. <br>
                <br>
                I am only sorry about the wrecked Austin-Healey.</div>
              <div style="background-color: white;"> </div>
              <div style="background-color: white;">Josef Eckert</div>
              <div style="background-color: white;">konigswinter/GERMANY<br>
                <br>
                <br>
                  <br>
                <br>
                  <br>
                <br>
                  <br>
                <br>
                -----Original-Nachricht----- <br>
                <br>
                Betreff: Re: [Healeys] Sad news - Rallyist Killed in
                Healey 100 <br>
                <br>
                Datum: 2022-10-06T10:31:49+0200 <br>
                <br>
                Von: "Michael Oritt" &lt;<a
                  href="mailto:michael.oritt@gmail.com";
                  moz-do-not-send="true" 
class="moz-txt-link-freetext">michael.oritt@gmail.com</a>&gt;
                <br>
                <br>
                An: "Michael Salter" &lt;<a
                  href="mailto:michaelsalter@gmail.com";
                  moz-do-not-send="true" 
class="moz-txt-link-freetext">michaelsalter@gmail.com</a>&gt;
                <br>
                <br>
                  <br>
                <br>
                  <br>
                <br>
                  <br>
                <br>
                Michael-- <br>
                <br>
                  <br>
                <br>
                Most of them weren't "open" ditches--they were filled
                with rocks.   <br>
                <br>
                I fondly recall the time we missed a left-hander, went
                off the road, somehow hurtled OVER the ditch and landed
                in a tree in a fellow's front yard.  As I remember it he
                stood there rather stunned while we cleared the branches
                out of the wheel openings, then hopped into the car and
                took off without much conversation. <br>
                <br>
                  <br>
                <br>
                Best--Michael Oritt <br>
                <br>
                <br>
                On Wed, Oct 5, 2022 at 10:36 PM Michael Salter via
                Healeys &lt;<a href="mailto:healeys@autox.team.net";
                  moz-do-not-send="true" 
class="moz-txt-link-freetext">healeys@autox.team.net</a>&gt;
                wrote: <br>
                <br>
                "all the roads are surrounded by open drainage ditches."
                <br>
                <br>
                Just like Newfoundland which for me was a major factor
                in giving up on the Targa there. <br>
                <br>
                  <br>
                <br>
                M <br>
                <br>
                On Wed., Oct. 5, 2022, 1:06 a.m. Alan Seigrist via
                Healeys, &lt;<a href="mailto:healeys@autox.team.net";
                  moz-do-not-send="true" 
class="moz-txt-link-freetext">healeys@autox.team.net</a>&gt;
                wrote: <br>
                <br>
                Italian roads are amazing for driving through beautiful
                countryside, but they are deadly because all the roads
                are surrounded by open drainage ditches. <br>
                <br>
                <br>
                On Wed, 5 Oct 2022 at 3:27 AM, Richard Kahn via Healeys
                &lt;<a href="mailto:healeys@autox.team.net";
                  moz-do-not-send="true" 
class="moz-txt-link-freetext">healeys@autox.team.net</a>&gt;
                wrote: <br>
                <br>
                I saw this yesterday. Very sad on so many levels. I was
                wondering if this is the drive a number of the Southern
                California Healey Association members are on in Europe
                at this moment. <br>
                <br>
                  <br>
                <br>
                From: Healeys &lt;<a
                  href="mailto:healeys-bounces@autox.team.net";
                  moz-do-not-send="true" 
class="moz-txt-link-freetext">healeys-bounces@autox.team.net</a>&gt;
                on behalf of Randy Hicks via Healeys &lt;<a
                  href="mailto:healeys@autox.team.net";
                  moz-do-not-send="true" 
class="moz-txt-link-freetext">healeys@autox.team.net</a>&gt;
                <br>
                Sent: Tuesday, October 4, 2022 5:40 AM <br>
                To: Healey List &lt;<a
                  href="mailto:healeys@autox.team.net";
                  moz-do-not-send="true" 
class="moz-txt-link-freetext">healeys@autox.team.net</a>&gt;
                <br>
                Subject: [Healeys] Sad news - Rallyist Killed in Healey
                100 <br>
                <br>
                  <br>
                <br>
                Awful.  <br>
                <br>
                  <br>
                <br>
                <a
href="https://www.the-sun.com/news/6355269/british-expat-killed-horror-crash-rally-austin-healey/";
                  moz-do-not-send="true" 
class="moz-txt-link-freetext">https://www.the-sun.com/news/6355269/british-expat-killed-horror-crash-rally-austin-healey/</a>
                <br>
                <br>
                  <br>
                <br>
                Randy <br>
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