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To: Jim Ryan <ryan@jimryan.com>
Subject: Re: [Healeys] Sad news - Rallyist Killed in Healey 100
From: josef-eckert--- via Healeys <healeys@autox.team.net>
Date: Thu, 6 Oct 2022 21:32:36 +0200 (CEST)
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Yes, please forward my comment to his family.
This person hasn=C2=B4t recognizsed his limits and was a danger for other p=
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on the road, drivers, bikers and cyclists, and even pedestrians, which are=
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on our rural roads as well and also want to live and be not hurt by such a=
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person.
Sorry, no mercy at all from my side.
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Betreff: Re: [Healeys] Sad news - Rallyist Killed in Healey 100
Datum: 2022-10-06T21:15:03+0200
Von: "Jim Ryan" <ryan@jimryan.com>
An: "josef-eckert@t-online.de" <josef-eckert@t-online.de>
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Well, THAT was harsh.  You might want to forward that to his family just so=
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they know how you feel about him.  When exactly is it you think  we should=
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all stop driving?  Is it 75?  80?  I'm 71, I just want to get your advice=
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on what age I'm endangering other people.
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That was easily the most insensitive posting I have ever seen on this list.

On Thu, Oct 6, 2022 at 11:52 AM josef-eckert--- via Healeys <
  To be honest, I have no respect for such a person, or better 82 years old
  fart who brought others in danger with his driving. Thankfully no other
  person was invoved and injured.

  Its very common all over in central Europe to have these ditches, trees
  or even walls along country roads. That is how we love it.

  For big money you can book in to take part in one of these leasure
  ra=C4=BAlys, where you get all accomodation organised, only you have to c=
ome
  from a to b along. these rallys are mainly booked from those mainly
  elderly people who do not know what to do otherwise with their money,
  even they are completely overextended by driving an old classic car.

  One should be wise enough to give up driving, when you are no more
  capable to drive.

  I am only sorry about the wrecked Austin-Healey.
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  Josef Eckert
  konigswinter/GERMANY


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  Betreff: Re: [Healeys] Sad news - Rallyist Killed in Healey 100

  Datum: 2022-10-06T10:31:49+0200

  Von: "Michael Oritt" <michael.oritt@gmail.com

  An: "Michael Salter" <michaelsalter@gmail.com

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  Michael--

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  Most of them weren't "open" ditches--they were filled with rocks. =20

  I fondly recall the time we missed a left-hander, went off the road,
  somehow hurtled OVER the ditch and landed in a tree in a fellow's front
  yard.  As I remember it he stood there rather stunned while we cleared
  the branches out of the wheel openings, then hopped into the car and took
  off without much conversation.

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  Best--Michael Oritt


  On Wed, Oct 5, 2022 at 10:36 PM Michael Salter via Healeys <

  "all the roads are surrounded by open drainage ditches."

  Just like Newfoundland which for me was a major factor in giving up on
  the Targa there.

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  M

  On Wed., Oct. 5, 2022, 1:06 a.m. Alan Seigrist via Healeys, <

  Italian roads are amazing for driving through beautiful countryside, but
  they are deadly because all the roads are surrounded by open drainage
  ditches.


  On Wed, 5 Oct 2022 at 3:27 AM, Richard Kahn via Healeys <

  I saw this yesterday. Very sad on so many levels. I was wondering if this
  is the drive a number of the Southern California Healey Association
  members are on in Europe at this moment.

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  From: Healeys <healeys-bounces@autox.team.net
  Sent: Tuesday, October 4, 2022 5:40 AM
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  Subject: [Healeys] Sad news - Rallyist Killed in Healey 100

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  Awful.=20

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  <https://www.the-sun.com/news/6355269/british-expat-killed-horror-crash-r=
ally-austin-healey/>


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  Randy

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<html><head><meta http-equiv=3D"Content-Type" content=3D"text/html; charset=
=3DUTF-8"/><title></title></head><body><p style=3D"margin: 0px;"><span styl=
e=3D"font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:10pt;color:#000000;te=
xt-decoration:none">Yes, please forward my comment to his family. </span></=
p>
<p style=3D"margin: 0px;"><span style=3D"font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-s=
erif;font-size:10pt;color:#000000;text-decoration:none">This person hasn&ac=
ute;t recognizsed his limits and was a danger for other people on the road,=
 drivers, bikers and cyclists, and even pedestrians, which are on our rural=
 roads as well and also want to live and be not hurt by such a person.<br /=
></span></p>
<p style=3D"margin: 0px;"><span style=3D"font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-s=
erif;font-size:10pt;color:#000000;text-decoration:none">Sorry, no mercy at =
all from my side.</span></p>
<p style=3D"margin: 0px;">&nbsp;</p>
<p style=3D"margin: 0px;">&nbsp;</p>
<p style=3D"margin: 0px;">&nbsp;</p>
<p style=3D"margin: 0px;"><span style=3D"font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-s=
erif;font-size:10pt;color:#000000;text-decoration:none">&nbsp;</span></p>
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<p style=3D"margin: 0px;">Betreff: Re: [Healeys] Sad news - Rallyist Killed=
 in Healey 100</p>
<p style=3D"margin: 0px;">Datum: 2022-10-06T21:15:03+0200</p>
<p style=3D"margin: 0px;">Von: "Jim Ryan" &lt;ryan@jimryan.com&gt;</p>
<p style=3D"margin: 0px;">An: "josef-eckert@t-online.de" &lt;josef-eckert@t=
-online.de&gt;</p>
<p style=3D"margin: 0px;">&nbsp;</p>
<p style=3D"margin: 0px;">&nbsp;</p>
<p style=3D"margin: 0px;">&nbsp;</p>
<div>
<div dir=3D"ltr">Well, THAT was harsh.&nbsp; You might want to forward that=
 to his family just so they know how you feel about him.&nbsp; When exactly=
 is it you think&nbsp; we should all stop driving?&nbsp; Is it 75?&nbsp; 80=
?&nbsp; I'm 71, I just want to get your advice on what age I'm endangering&=
nbsp;other people.
<div>&nbsp;</div>
<div>That was easily the most insensitive&nbsp;posting I have ever seen on =
this list.</div>
</div>
<br />
<div class=3D"gmail_quote">
<div class=3D"gmail_attr" dir=3D"ltr">On Thu, Oct 6, 2022 at 11:52 AM josef=
-eckert--- via Healeys &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:healeys@autox.team.net";>healey=
s@autox.team.net</a>&gt; wrote:</div>
<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin: 0px 0px 0px 0.8ex; borde=
r-left: 1px solid #cccccc; padding-left: 1ex;">
<div>
<div style=3D"background-color: white;">To be honest, I have no respect for=
 such a person, or better 82 years old fart who brought others in danger wi=
th his driving. Thankfully no other person was invoved and injured. <br /><=
br />Its very common all over in central Europe to have these ditches, tree=
s or even walls along country roads. That is how we love it. <br /><br />Fo=
r big money you can book in to take part in one of these leasure ra=C4=BAly=
s, where you get all accomodation organised, only you have to come from a t=
o b along. these rallys are mainly booked from those mainly elderly people =
who do not know what to do otherwise with their money, even they are comple=
tely overextended by driving an old classic car. <br /><br />One should be =
wise enough to give up driving, when you are no more capable to drive. <br =
/><br />I am only sorry about the wrecked Austin-Healey.</div>
<div style=3D"background-color: white;">&nbsp;</div>
<div style=3D"background-color: white;">Josef Eckert</div>
<div style=3D"background-color: white;">konigswinter/GERMANY<br /><br /><br=
 />&nbsp; <br /><br />&nbsp; <br /><br />&nbsp; <br /><br />-----Original-N=
achricht----- <br /><br />Betreff: Re: [Healeys] Sad news - Rallyist Killed=
 in Healey 100 <br /><br />Datum: 2022-10-06T10:31:49+0200 <br /><br />Von:=
 "Michael Oritt" &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:michael.oritt@gmail.com";>michael.ori=
tt@gmail.com</a>&gt; <br /><br />An: "Michael Salter" &lt;<a href=3D"mailto=
:michaelsalter@gmail.com">michaelsalter@gmail.com</a>&gt; <br /><br />&nbsp=
; <br /><br />&nbsp; <br /><br />&nbsp; <br /><br />Michael-- <br /><br />&=
nbsp; <br /><br />Most of them weren't "open" ditches--they were filled wit=
h rocks.&nbsp;&nbsp; <br /><br />I fondly recall the time we missed a left-=
hander, went off the road, somehow hurtled OVER the ditch and landed in a t=
ree in a fellow's front yard.&nbsp; As I remember it he stood there rather =
stunned while we cleared the branches out of the wheel openings, then hoppe=
d into the car and took off without much conversation. <br /><br />&nbsp; <=
br /><br />Best--Michael Oritt <br /><br /><br />On Wed, Oct 5, 2022 at 10:=
36 PM Michael Salter via Healeys &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:healeys@autox.team.n=
et">healeys@autox.team.net</a>&gt; wrote: <br /><br />"all the roads are su=
rrounded by open drainage ditches." <br /><br />Just like Newfoundland whic=
h for me was a major factor in giving up on the Targa there. <br /><br />&n=
bsp; <br /><br />M <br /><br />On Wed., Oct. 5, 2022, 1:06 a.m. Alan Seigri=
st via Healeys, &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:healeys@autox.team.net";>healeys@autox=
.team.net</a>&gt; wrote: <br /><br />Italian roads are amazing for driving =
through beautiful countryside, but they are deadly because all the roads ar=
e surrounded by open drainage ditches. <br /><br /><br />On Wed, 5 Oct 2022=
 at 3:27 AM, Richard Kahn via Healeys &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:healeys@autox.t=
eam.net">healeys@autox.team.net</a>&gt; wrote: <br /><br />I saw this yeste=
rday. Very sad on so many levels. I was wondering if this is the drive a nu=
mber of the Southern California Healey Association members are on in Europe=
 at this moment. <br /><br />&nbsp; <br /><br />From: Healeys &lt;<a href=
=3D"mailto:healeys-bounces@autox.team.net";>healeys-bounces@autox.team.net</=
a>&gt; on behalf of Randy Hicks via Healeys &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:healeys@a=
utox.team.net">healeys@autox.team.net</a>&gt; <br />Sent: Tuesday, October =
4, 2022 5:40 AM <br />To: Healey List &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:healeys@autox.t=
eam.net">healeys@autox.team.net</a>&gt; <br />Subject: [Healeys] Sad news -=
 Rallyist Killed in Healey 100 <br /><br />&nbsp; <br /><br />Awful.&nbsp; =
<br /><br />&nbsp; <br /><br /><a href=3D"https://www.the-sun.com/news/6355=
269/british-expat-killed-horror-crash-rally-austin-healey/">https://www.the=
-sun.com/news/6355269/british-expat-killed-horror-crash-rally-austin-healey=
/</a> <br /><br />&nbsp; <br /><br />Randy <br /><br />____________________=
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