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Re: autox insurance

To: "Dave Whitworth" <dave@wcsllc.net>, <autox@autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: autox insurance
From: "Bruce Haden" <bhaden@ucsd.edu>
Date: Fri, 21 Dec 2001 06:36:10 -0800
The BMW club deals with the "timed event" clause by dividing the day into 2
sessions.
The first is a lapping session with small groups of cars with no passing and
no timing
equipment. After that the people who are serious get back in line and run
for trophies
and the rest park and watch. The presence of the timing equipment changes
the event
from a "driving school" to a competetive event and at that point most
insurance cos.
draw the line. It's also easy for them to make the call;

     Question-"Were there timers?"
     Answer -"yes".
     REPLY- "No insurance coverage!"


----- Original Message -----
From: "Dave Whitworth" <dave@wcsllc.net>
To: <autox@autox.team.net>
Sent: Thursday, December 20, 2001 3:20 PM
Subject: Re: autox insurance


> Not to say that insurance companies haven't been party to some big screw
> jobs....
>
> And not to say that it totally sux that you hit a pole and totaled your
> car...because it does...
>
> But.....people in general piss and moan about insurance rates, and are
> pretty ruthless in finding the cheapest ones.....then expect an event like
> autocrossing to be covered under the basic policy?
>
> If you want/need coverage while racing, call K&K and get it - I'm sure
there
> is some type of policy that will do it.....but why you would expect a
> regular policy to cover this is beyond me!
>
> If they cover your loss, that money eventually costs all of us in
> premiums....and I don't want to pay for your accident which occurred WAY
> outside the scope of the policy you purchased.....
>
> "This is going to cost me serious cash"
>
> It should - it was your mistake.  Life sucks, but there is a risk in any
> type of speed event - even autocrossing!
>
> And, no I don't work for an insurance company....
>
> DaveW
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> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "David Cramer" <dcramer@translationtech.com>
> To: <autox@autox.team.net>
> Sent: Thursday, December 20, 2001 4:55 PM
> Subject: Re: autox insurance
>
>
> > I DO have progressive and I HAVE hit a pole while autoxing.  They will
> > NOT pay  one cent of my car that was totalled.  They sent me a letter
with
> the section # in my insurance
> > which states that the insurance is NULL in all "timed events" and that
> > they will not cover this claim.
> >
> > The key words here are "timed events". This is how the insurance
> > companies are going to try to get out of paying your claim.
> >
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