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Steve,
Thanks
Charlie Durning
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On Tue, Nov 26, 2013 at 11:09 AM, Steve Kirby <skirby210@cox.net> wrote:
> It is not my place to answer this, and it is further not my place to
> offer up this answer, but I will anyway! One of my first, of many,
> mentors, in the Magnette World was Steve Carroll . . . he of thee superb
> header set up many of us have purchased. Steve did put a full late B
> synchro in his. I do remember Steve describing the various things he had
> to do. Steve is a person of immense talents, so his pay grade is much
> higher than mine. Perhaps Steve will answer, now that I've prodded him a
> bit, or Charlie can contact him directly.
>
> #2SteveK
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> *From:* LannM@aol.com
> *To:* zmagnette@autox.team.net
> *Sent:* Tuesday, November 26, 2013 8:29 AM
> *Subject:* Re: [Zmagnette] 4 synchro MGB trans in ZB
>
> Shifter location aside, the 4 sync is wider than the 3 sync. Compare a 3
> sync MGB with a 4 sync. The transmission tunnel is noticeably different.
> I've put a 4 sync in and early MGB and it takes a lot of work with a BIG
> hammer to move sheet metal around. Even then, its still a tight fit. I
> can't imagine a Magnette would be any easier.
>
> I think Allen is right, a Hi-Gear 5 speed would be quicker, easier, and
> probably cheaper.
>
> Lann
>
> In a message dated 11/26/2013 10:19:44 A.M. Central Standard Time,
> durningcharles@gmail.com writes:
>
> Robert,
>
> I didn't think that even modifying the remote would work. It would still
> be too far back, not to mention the height. I was thinking about
> eleminating the remote and mounting the shifter directly to the opening on
> the trans where the remote attaches. I still have to get under the car and
> do some measuring to see if that would be close.
>
> It would be good if some BMC car used the 4 synchro trans with a direct
> shifter. That would keep me from having to make something.
>
>
> Charlie Durning
>
> If you are using Google or Gmail, Big Brother is watching.
>
>
>
> On Tue, Nov 26, 2013 at 1:58 AM, <monster@caverock.net.nz> wrote:
>
>>
>> http://www.beardmorebros.co.uk/website%20pages/Dads_Oxford.html
>>
>> On the above page are some photos and a description of fitting an MGB
>> engine and 4-synchro+overdrive 'box to a 1960's Farina Oxford.
>> It includes a pic of shortening the remote gearlever extension to fit,
>> and a new tunnel.
>>
>> I'd agree that the benefits of non-OD box over all the mods needed for a
>> 3-synchro box might not be great.
>> I also love the sound of the non-synchro 1st gear. Bah, musicians, eh? :-)
>>
>> regards,
>> --
>> Robert
>>
>>
>> On 26.11.2013 15:50, Allen Bachelder wrote:
>>
>>> Charlie,
>>> Even without overdrive, the remote shifter on the MGB 4-sync sits
>>> high and your going to have to substantially reshape the transmission
>>> tunnel to make it fit. That's a ferocious price to pay for a
>>> synchronized first gear. If you're going to that much trouble, you
>>> might as well go five-speed.
>>>
>>
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<div>Steve,</div>
<div>=A0</div>
<div>Thanks<br clear=3D"all"></div>
<div>
<div dir=3D"ltr">
<div>=A0</div>
<div>Charlie Durning</div>
<div>=A0</div>
<div><font size=3D"4">If you are using Google or Gmail, Big Brother is watc=
hing.</font></div>
<div>=A0</div></div></div><br><br>
<div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Tue, Nov 26, 2013 at 11:09 AM, Steve Kirby <s=
pan dir=3D"ltr"><<a href=3D"mailto:skirby210@cox.net"; target=3D"_blank">=
skirby210@cox.net</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote style=3D"BORDER-LEFT:#ccc 1px solid;MARGIN:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;PA=
DDING-LEFT:1ex" class=3D"gmail_quote"><u></u>
<div style=3D"FONT-FAMILY:Arial;FONT-SIZE:10pt" bgcolor=3D"#ffffff">
<div><font size=3D"3" face=3D"Times New Roman">It is not my place to answer=
this, and it is further not my place to offer up this answer, but I will a=
nyway!=A0 One of my first, of many, mentors, in the Magnette World was Stev=
e Carroll . . . he of thee superb header set up many of us have purchased.=
=A0 Steve did put a full late B synchro in his.=A0 I do remember Steve desc=
ribing the various things he had to do.=A0 Steve is a person of immense tal=
ents, so his pay grade is much higher than mine.=A0 Perhaps Steve will answ=
er, now that I've prodded him a bit, or Charlie can contact him directl=
y.</font></div>
<div><font size=3D"3" face=3D"Times New Roman"></font>=A0</div>
<div><font size=3D"3" face=3D"Times New Roman">#2SteveK</font></div>
<blockquote style=3D"BORDER-LEFT:#000000 2px solid;PADDING-LEFT:5px;PADDING=
-RIGHT:0px;MARGIN-LEFT:5px;MARGIN-RIGHT:0px">
<div>
<div class=3D"h5">
<div style=3D"FONT:10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </div>
<div style=3D"FONT:10pt arial;BACKGROUND:#e4e4e4"><b>From:</b> <a title=3D"=
LannM@aol.com" href=3D"mailto:LannM@aol.com"; target=3D"_blank">LannM@aol.co=
m</a> </div>
<div style=3D"FONT:10pt arial"><b>To:</b> <a title=3D"zmagnette@autox.team.=
net" href=3D"mailto:zmagnette@autox.team.net"; target=3D"_blank">zmagnette@a=
utox.team.net</a> </div>
<div style=3D"FONT:10pt arial"><b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, November 26, 2013 8:29=
AM</div>
<div style=3D"FONT:10pt arial"><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Zmagnette] 4 synchro MG=
B trans in ZB</div>
<div><br></div><font color=3D"#000000" face=3D"Arial">
<div>Shifter location aside, the 4 sync is wider than the 3 sync.=A0 Compar=
e a 3 sync MGB with a 4 sync.=A0 The transmission tunnel is noticeably diff=
erent.=A0 I've put a 4 sync in and early MGB and it takes a lot of work=
with a BIG hammer to move sheet metal around.=A0 Even then, its still a ti=
ght fit.=A0 I can't imagine a Magnette would be any easier.</div>
<div>=A0</div>
<div>I think Allen is right, a Hi-Gear 5 speed would be quicker, easier, an=
d probably cheaper.</div>
<div>=A0</div>
<div>Lann=A0</div>
<div>=A0</div>
<div>
<div>In a message dated 11/26/2013 10:19:44 A.M. Central Standard Time, <a =
href=3D"mailto:durningcharles@gmail.com"; target=3D"_blank">durningcharles@g=
mail.com</a> writes:</div>
<blockquote style=3D"BORDER-LEFT:blue 2px solid;PADDING-LEFT:5px;MARGIN-LEF=
T:5px"><font style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR:transparent" color=3D"#000000" face=
=3D"Arial">
<div>Robert,</div>
<div>=A0</div>
<div>I didn't think that even modifying the remote would work.=A0 It wo=
uld still be too far back, not to mention the height.=A0 I was thinking abo=
ut eleminating the remote and mounting the shifter directly to the opening =
on the trans where the remote attaches.=A0 I still have to get under the ca=
r and do some measuring to see if that would be close.</div>
<div>=A0</div>
<div>It would be good if some BMC car used the 4 synchro trans with a direc=
t shifter.=A0 That would keep me from having to make something.</div>
<div>=A0</div>
<div>
<div dir=3D"ltr">
<div>=A0</div>
<div>Charlie Durning</div>
<div>=A0</div>
<div><font size=3D"4">If you are using Google or Gmail, Big Brother is watc=
hing.</font></div>
<div>=A0</div></div></div><br><br>
<div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Tue, Nov 26, 2013 at 1:58 AM, <span dir=3D"lt=
r"><<a title=3D"mailto:monster@caverock.net.nz"; href=3D"mailto:monster@c=
averock.net.nz" target=3D"_blank">monster@caverock.net.nz</a>></span> wr=
ote:<br>
<blockquote style=3D"BORDER-LEFT:#ccc 1px solid;MARGIN:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;PA=
DDING-LEFT:1ex" class=3D"gmail_quote"><br><a title=3D"http://www.beardmoreb=
ros.co.uk/website pages/Dads_Oxford.html" href=3D"http://www.beardmorebros.=
co.uk/website%20pages/Dads_Oxford.html" target=3D"_blank">http://www.beardm=
orebros.co.<u></u>uk/website%20pages/Dads_<u></u>Oxford.html</a><br>
<br>On the above page are some photos and a description of fitting an MGB e=
ngine and 4-synchro+overdrive 'box to a 1960's Farina Oxford.<br>It=
includes a pic of shortening the remote gearlever extension to fit, and a =
new tunnel.<br>
<br>I'd agree that the benefits of non-OD box over all the mods needed =
for a 3-synchro box might not be great.<br>I also love the sound of the non=
-synchro 1st gear. Bah, musicians, eh? :-)<br><br>regards,<br>-- <br>Robert=
=20
<div><br><br>On 26.11.2013 15:50, Allen Bachelder wrote:<br>
<blockquote style=3D"BORDER-LEFT:#ccc 1px solid;MARGIN:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;PA=
DDING-LEFT:1ex" class=3D"gmail_quote">Charlie,<br>Even without overdrive, t=
he remote shifter on the MGB 4-sync sits<br>high and your going to have to =
substantially reshape the transmission<br>
tunnel to make it fit. That's a ferocious price to pay for a<br>synchro=
nized first gear. If you're going to that much trouble, you<br>might as=
well go five-speed.<br></blockquote><br></div>
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