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It is not my place to answer this, and it is further not my place to =
offer up this answer, but I will anyway! One of my first, of many, =
mentors, in the Magnette World was Steve Carroll . . . he of thee superb =
header set up many of us have purchased. Steve did put a full late B =
synchro in his. I do remember Steve describing the various things he =
had to do. Steve is a person of immense talents, so his pay grade is =
much higher than mine. Perhaps Steve will answer, now that I've prodded =
him a bit, or Charlie can contact him directly.
#2SteveK
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From: LannM@aol.com=20
To: zmagnette@autox.team.net=20
Sent: Tuesday, November 26, 2013 8:29 AM
Subject: Re: [Zmagnette] 4 synchro MGB trans in ZB
Shifter location aside, the 4 sync is wider than the 3 sync. Compare =
a 3 sync MGB with a 4 sync. The transmission tunnel is noticeably =
different. I've put a 4 sync in and early MGB and it takes a lot of =
work with a BIG hammer to move sheet metal around. Even then, its still =
a tight fit. I can't imagine a Magnette would be any easier.
I think Allen is right, a Hi-Gear 5 speed would be quicker, easier, =
and probably cheaper.
Lann=20
In a message dated 11/26/2013 10:19:44 A.M. Central Standard Time, =
durningcharles@gmail.com writes:
Robert,
I didn't think that even modifying the remote would work. It would =
still be too far back, not to mention the height. I was thinking about =
eleminating the remote and mounting the shifter directly to the opening =
on the trans where the remote attaches. I still have to get under the =
car and do some measuring to see if that would be close.
It would be good if some BMC car used the 4 synchro trans with a =
direct shifter. That would keep me from having to make something.
Charlie Durning
If you are using Google or Gmail, Big Brother is watching.
On Tue, Nov 26, 2013 at 1:58 AM, <monster@caverock.net.nz> wrote:
http://www.beardmorebros.co.uk/website%20pages/Dads_Oxford.html
On the above page are some photos and a description of fitting an =
MGB engine and 4-synchro+overdrive 'box to a 1960's Farina Oxford.
It includes a pic of shortening the remote gearlever extension to =
fit, and a new tunnel.
I'd agree that the benefits of non-OD box over all the mods needed =
for a 3-synchro box might not be great.
I also love the sound of the non-synchro 1st gear. Bah, musicians, =
eh? :-)
regards,
--=20
Robert=20
On 26.11.2013 15:50, Allen Bachelder wrote:
Charlie,
Even without overdrive, the remote shifter on the MGB 4-sync =
sits
high and your going to have to substantially reshape the =
transmission
tunnel to make it fit. That's a ferocious price to pay for a
synchronized first gear. If you're going to that much trouble, =
you
might as well go five-speed.
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<DIV><FONT size=3D3 face=3D"Times New Roman">It is not my place to =
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of my first, of many, mentors, in the Magnette World was Steve Carroll . =
. . he=20
of thee superb header set up many of us have purchased. Steve did =
put a=20
full late B synchro in his. I do remember Steve describing the =
various=20
things he had to do. Steve is a person of immense talents, so his =
pay=20
grade is much higher than mine. Perhaps Steve will answer, now =
that I've=20
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<DIV><FONT size=3D3 face=3D"Times New Roman">#2SteveK</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Tuesday, November 26, =
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<DIV>Shifter location aside, the 4 sync is wider than the 3 =
sync. =20
Compare a 3 sync MGB with a 4 sync. The transmission tunnel is=20
noticeably different. I've put a 4 sync in and early MGB and it =
takes a=20
lot of work with a BIG hammer to move sheet metal around. Even =
then, its=20
still a tight fit. I can't imagine a Magnette would be any =
easier.</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>I think Allen is right, a Hi-Gear 5 speed would be quicker, =
easier, and=20
probably cheaper.</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>Lann </DIV>
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<DIV>In a message dated 11/26/2013 10:19:44 A.M. Central Standard =
Time,=20
durningcharles@gmail.com writes:</DIV>
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<DIV>Robert,</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>I didn't think that even modifying the remote would work. =
It=20
would still be too far back, not to mention the height. I was =
thinking=20
about eleminating the remote and mounting the shifter directly to =
the=20
opening on the trans where the remote attaches. I still have =
to get=20
under the car and do some measuring to see if that would be =
close.</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>It would be good if some BMC car used the 4 synchro trans with =
a direct=20
shifter. That would keep me from having to make =
something.</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
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<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>Charlie Durning</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D4>If you are using Google or Gmail, Big Brother is =
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<DIV class=3Dgmail_quote>On Tue, Nov 26, 2013 at 1:58 AM, <SPAN =
dir=3Dltr><<A=20
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href=3D"mailto:monster@caverock.net.nz"=20
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<BLOCKQUOTE=20
style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: #ccc 1px solid; MARGIN: 0px 0px 0px 0.8ex; =
PADDING-LEFT: 1ex"=20
class=3Dgmail_quote><BR><A=20
title=3D"http://www.beardmorebros.co.uk/website =
pages/Dads_Oxford.html"=20
=
href=3D"http://www.beardmorebros.co.uk/website%20pages/Dads_Oxford.html"; =
=
target=3D_blank>http://www.beardmorebros.co.<U></U>uk/website%20pages/Dad=
s_<U></U>Oxford.html</A><BR><BR>On=20
the above page are some photos and a description of fitting an MGB =
engine=20
and 4-synchro+overdrive 'box to a 1960's Farina Oxford.<BR>It =
includes a=20
pic of shortening the remote gearlever extension to fit, and a new =
tunnel.<BR><BR>I'd agree that the benefits of non-OD box over all =
the mods=20
needed for a 3-synchro box might not be great.<BR>I also love the =
sound of=20
the non-synchro 1st gear. Bah, musicians, eh? =
:-)<BR><BR>regards,<BR>--=20
<BR>Robert=20
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shifter=20
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substantially=20
reshape the transmission<BR>tunnel to make it fit. That's a =
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