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Subject: Re: [Zmagnette] 4 synchro MGB trans in ZB <zmagnette@autox.team.net> <zmagnette.autox.team.net>
From: LannM@aol.com
Date: Tue, 26 Nov 2013 11:29:39 -0500 (EST)
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Shifter location aside, the 4 sync is wider than the 3 sync.  Compare  a 3 
sync MGB with a 4 sync.  The transmission tunnel is noticeably  different.  
I've put a 4 sync in and early MGB and it takes a lot of work  with a BIG 
hammer to move sheet metal around.  Even then, its still a tight  fit.  I 
can't imagine a Magnette would be any easier.
 
I think Allen is right, a Hi-Gear 5 speed would be quicker, easier, and  
probably cheaper.
 
Lann 
 
 
In a message dated 11/26/2013 10:19:44 A.M. Central Standard Time,  
durningcharles@gmail.com writes:

Robert,
 
I didn't think that even modifying the remote would work.  It would  still 
be too far back, not to mention the height.  I was thinking about  
eleminating the remote and mounting the shifter directly to the opening on the  
trans 
where the remote attaches.  I still have to get under the car and  do some 
measuring to see if that would be close.
 
It would be good if some BMC car used the 4 synchro trans with a direct  
shifter.  That would keep me from having to make something.
 
 
 

Charlie Durning
 
If you are using Google or Gmail, Big Brother is  watching.
 




On Tue, Nov 26, 2013 at 1:58 AM, <_monster@caverock.net.nz_ 
(mailto:monster@caverock.net.nz) > wrote:


http://www.beardmorebros.co.uk/website%20pages/Dads_Oxford.html

On  the above page are some photos and a description of fitting an MGB 
engine  and 4-synchro+overdrive 'box to a 1960's Farina Oxford.
It includes a pic  of shortening the remote gearlever extension to fit, and 
a new  tunnel.

I'd agree that the benefits of non-OD box over all the mods  needed for a 
3-synchro box might not be great.
I also love the sound of  the non-synchro 1st gear. Bah, musicians, eh? :-)

regards,
--  
Robert  


On 26.11.2013 15:50, Allen Bachelder wrote:

Charlie,
Even without overdrive, the remote shifter  on the MGB 4-sync sits
high and your going to have to substantially  reshape the transmission
tunnel to make it fit. That's a ferocious  price to pay for a
synchronized first gear. If you're going to that  much trouble, you
might as well go five-speed.



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