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Re: [Healeys] Glycol in oil

To: Roger Grace <roggrace@telus.net>, Wayne Schultz <waschu2@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Healeys] Glycol in oil
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Date: Fri, 15 Mar 2024 15:05:31 +0000 (UTC)
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 Congratulations on finding the leak. I would not have much confidence in a=
ny epoxy. The area would need to be impeccably clean including inside the a=
ctual crack & the block gets very hot. I wonder if it might be a candidate =
for an expert MIG/TIG welder?Gary Hodson=C2=A0
    On Thursday, March 14, 2024 at 11:00:46 PM CDT, Wayne Schultz via Heale=
ys <healeys@autox.team.net> wrote: =20
=20
 Yes, it was!=C2=A0

On Thu, Mar 14, 2024 at 10:16=E2=80=AFPM Roger Grace <roggrace@telus.net> w=
rote:

Wayne - you are a star !I got lucky and think that I have found it.Started =
by removing the center tappet side cover.Just like your experience - mine i=
s below the center cover mounting boss; there is a ridge there just above t=
he distributor drive.Was this where the one you worked on was ?
Actually looks someone tried to repair it before. Have no idea what they us=
ed, but is a soft white putty like substance and the oozing got worse when =
I removed it. Had the coolant under pressure.So now have to clean up and th=
ink about a repair technique.Thank you for responding .rg



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From: Roger Grace <roggrace@telus.net>
Date: Thu, Mar 14, 2024 at 8:15=E2=80=AFAM
Subject: Re: [Healeys] Glycol in oil
To: Wayne Schultz <waschu2@gmail.com>
Cc: <healeys@autox.team.net>


Wayne,Thank you. That sounds very similar to my situation. Not quite sure t=
hat I understand what you mean by the boss that goes down to the sump ? Is =
this the oil return path - interesting. Yes, my plan is to get the pan off =
and pressurize the coolant with some dye in it and hopefully locate it.=C2=
=A0So your repair was done with the tappet side covers off ? Maybe that is =
a block weakness and I get lucky with a similar fault.rg


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On Sun, Mar 10, 2024 at 9:14=E2=80=AFPM Wayne Schultz <waschu2@gmail.com> w=
rote:

Hi Roger,My friend who had=C2=A0a=C2=A0 Healey 3000 had=C2=A0 a similar iss=
ue. We would find=C2=A0coolant=C2=A0in the oil on the dipstick and filler c=
ap. I found when we pressurized the cooling system with the engine warm, no=
 leak noted, with the engine cold a slight coolant leak in pressure. I deci=
ded to drop the oil pan to look for leaks and found a very slight leak inte=
rnally dripping into the oil pan area. We found that the leak was from the =
boss in between the 6 and 7 tappets.=C2=A0 With that=C2=A0 tappet cover off=
 we could see coolant drips forming in that boss running down into the pan =
area. It would only leak when cold. Porosity? I think so. I decided to Peen=
=C2=A0 the boss with a punch and seal with JB Weld. It has been good ever s=
ince. I suggest dropping=C2=A0your oil pan to look for leaks might be the l=
east invasive first step in locating your problem.=C2=A0 =C2=A0 Good luck.=
=C2=A0
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0Wayne_______________=
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        <div dir=3D"ltr" data-setdir=3D"false">Congratulations on finding t=
he leak. I would not have much confidence in any epoxy. The area would need=
 to be impeccably clean including inside the actual crack &amp; the block g=
ets very hot. I wonder if it might be a candidate for an expert MIG/TIG wel=
der?</div><div dir=3D"ltr" data-setdir=3D"false">Gary Hodson&nbsp;</div><di=
v><br></div>
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                    On Thursday, March 14, 2024 at 11:00:46 PM CDT, Wayne S=
chultz via Healeys &lt;healeys@autox.team.net&gt; wrote:
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                <div><div id=3D"ydpbb1b946fyiv3499248027"><div><div dir=3D"=
ltr">Yes, it was!&nbsp;<br clear=3D"none"></div><br clear=3D"none"><div id=
=3D"ydpbb1b946fyiv3499248027yqt57983" class=3D"ydpbb1b946fyiv3499248027yqt5=
823130862"><div class=3D"ydpbb1b946fyiv3499248027gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"l=
tr" class=3D"ydpbb1b946fyiv3499248027gmail_attr">On Thu, Mar 14, 2024 at 10=
:16=E2=80=AFPM Roger Grace &lt;<a shape=3D"rect" href=3D"mailto:roggrace@te=
lus.net" target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"noreferrer noopener">roggrace@telus.net</=
a>&gt; wrote:<br clear=3D"none"></div><blockquote style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0=
px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex;" class=3D=
"ydpbb1b946fyiv3499248027gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr"><div>Wayne - you are=
 a star !</div><div>I got lucky and think that I have found it.</div><div>S=
tarted by removing the center tappet side cover.</div><div>Just like your e=
xperience - mine is below the center cover mounting boss; there is a ridge =
there just above the distributor drive.</div><div>Was this where the one yo=
u worked on was ?<br clear=3D"none"></div><div>Actually looks someone tried=
 to repair it before. Have no idea what they used, but is a soft white putt=
y like substance and the oozing got worse when I removed it. Had the coolan=
t under pressure.</div><div>So now have to clean up and think about a repai=
r technique.</div><div>Thank you for responding .</div><div>rg<br clear=3D"=
none"></div><div><br clear=3D"none"></div><div><br clear=3D"none"></div><di=
v><br clear=3D"none"><div class=3D"ydpbb1b946fyiv3499248027gmail_quote"><di=
v dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"ydpbb1b946fyiv3499248027gmail_attr">---------- Forwa=
rded message ---------<br clear=3D"none">From: <b class=3D"ydpbb1b946fyiv34=
99248027gmail_sendername">Roger Grace</b> <span>&lt;<a shape=3D"rect" href=
=3D"mailto:roggrace@telus.net"; target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"noreferrer noopener=
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24 at 8:15=E2=80=AFAM<br clear=3D"none">Subject: Re: [Healeys] Glycol in oi=
l<br clear=3D"none">To: Wayne Schultz &lt;<a shape=3D"rect" href=3D"mailto:=
waschu2@gmail.com" target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"noreferrer noopener">waschu2@gm=
ail.com</a>&gt;<br clear=3D"none">Cc:  &lt;<a shape=3D"rect" href=3D"mailto=
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eys@autox.team.net</a>&gt;<br clear=3D"none"></div><br clear=3D"none"><br c=
lear=3D"none"><div dir=3D"ltr"><div>Wayne,</div><div>Thank you. That sounds=
 very similar to my situation. Not quite sure that I understand what you me=
an by the boss that goes down to the sump ? Is this the oil return path - i=
nteresting. Yes, my plan is to get the pan off and pressurize the coolant w=
ith some dye in it and hopefully locate it.&nbsp;</div><div>So your repair =
was done with the tappet side covers off ? Maybe that is a block weakness a=
nd I get lucky with a similar fault.</div><div>rg<br clear=3D"none"></div><=
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ydpbb1b946fyiv3499248027gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"ydpbb1b946fy=
iv3499248027gmail_attr">On Sun, Mar 10, 2024 at 9:14=E2=80=AFPM Wayne Schul=
tz &lt;<a shape=3D"rect" href=3D"mailto:waschu2@gmail.com"; target=3D"_blank=
" rel=3D"noreferrer noopener">waschu2@gmail.com</a>&gt; wrote:<br clear=3D"=
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olid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex;" class=3D"ydpbb1b946fyiv3499248027g=
mail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr">Hi Roger,<div>My friend who had&nbsp;a&nbsp; H=
ealey 3000 had&nbsp; a similar issue. We would find&nbsp;coolant&nbsp;in th=
e oil on the dipstick and filler cap. I found when we pressurized the cooli=
ng system with the engine warm, no leak noted, with the engine cold a sligh=
t coolant leak in pressure. I decided to drop the oil pan to look for leaks=
 and found a very slight leak internally dripping into the oil pan area. We=
 found that the leak was from the boss in between the 6 and 7 tappets.&nbsp=
; With that&nbsp; tappet cover off we could see coolant drips forming in th=
at boss running down into the pan area. It would only leak when cold. Poros=
ity? I think so. I decided to Peen&nbsp; the boss with a punch and seal wit=
h JB Weld. It has been good ever since. I suggest dropping&nbsp;your oil pa=
n to look for leaks might be the least invasive first step in locating your=
 problem.&nbsp; &nbsp; Good luck.&nbsp;</div><div><br clear=3D"none"></div>=
<div>&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;Wayne</div></di=
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