On Wednesday, April 3, 2002, at 08:51 , Lolita and Mike wrote:
> on 4/3/02 12:34, Kevin Stevens at Kevin_Stevens@pursued-with.net wrote:
>
>> On Wed, 3 Apr 2002, John J. Stimson-III wrote:
>>
>>> I think the difference in your experience might have to do with the
>>> weight balance of the car. In a low power car, or one in which the
>>> rear is heavy, it's harder to get the rear tires to induce power
>>> oversteer, so most of the time they will just see understeer under
>>> acceleration. With a light rear end or a powerful engine, you can
>>> bypass the understeer and go right to power oversteer.
>>
>> I see this written all the time, but I'v never experienced it. In my
>> experience, once you start pushing in a turn (RWD), you can't stop it
>> without slowing down. You can get oversteer AS WELL with your right
>> foot;
>> this is known as "sliding". ;)
>>
>> KeS
> Kevin, I don't disagree with you often but in this case I have to take
> exception. You can stop the push without slowing if you have the room to
> unwind enough to regain the traction on the front end at the same time
> you
> are inducing the tail to come about. ( lets not talk about what kind of
> an
> ugly line this envisions, but if we were doing everything right we
> wouldn't
> have been suffering this push in the first place, would we.)<hehe>
> MJ
I'll believe you if you say you can do it, I just said *I've* never
experienced it. How can you disagree with that? ;)
I agree that should be possible, but what happens to me is that if I
try to "overpower" a push the front end just gets lighter and is being
pushed faster by the rear and I can't ever get it stopped. If I unwind
combined with a lift to reset the front end AND a big throttle push I
can convert the car into oversteer (in fact if I do that I'd better get
into opp lock damn fast), but that's a different technique.
I do remember being amazed after taking a ride in Rick Brown's black BP
car (at Stockton, if I recall) that that thing would transfer so much
weight to the rear and still turn at all.
KeS
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