My own experience:
A co-driver and I did the Evolution School at Mather. The tires were destroyed
by lunch, which is what I was expecting, and even wanted, since I didn't want
to do that to my street tires. Still, it was uncomfortable after that.
3-Com is more forgiving, though, to tires. I still would stick to street tires.
If you can drive fast on street tires, you can drive fast on anything.
Katie
-----Original Message-----
From: Andy McKee [mailto:andrewmckee@yahoo.com]
Sent: Tuesday, February 12, 2002 1:47 PM
To: Darren Madams; ba-autox@autox.team.net
Subject: Re: AutoX School -- street tires vs. race tires
Something with a stiffer sidewall would be nice, I'd just make sure you have
enough tread to last the day. Race tires with very little tread left will tend
to "skate" at 3Com, somewhat similar to GGF. Do whatever is comfortable with
your budget, as the last thing you want is to be worrying about tire wear when
you are supposed to be having a good time learning.
-Andy
--- Darren Madams <darren@madams.com> wrote:
> What about a set of Toyo's or Yoko A008s? Something with more stick than
> a steet tire, with driving characteristics closer to a race tire, that
> won't chew itself up like a Hoosier?
>
> --Darren "any tire compound I want, <$200 a set!" Madams :)
>
> p.s. First two schools I did were on street tires because that was all I
> could afford at the time. I would have rather done it on race tires
> though, but it was still incredibly valuable.
>
> Andy "better listed to him too" McKee wrote:
> > I'd second everything Master Randall had to say, and I'd further add that
> 3Com
> > is not very Hoosier friendly. I'd just run street tires or some beater
> Kumhos
> > if you can find 'em. The mental aspect of the school is what is most
> > important, IMO. Even if it was a dial in school, setting your car up for
> 3Com
> > would mean setting it up for there only, due to its unique combination of
> > bumps, jumps, and gravel.
> >
> > -Andy
> >
> >
> > --- "Kelly, Katie" <kkelly@spss.com> wrote:
> > > See? Joey, come on! Randy was voted Solo II ROOKIE OF THE YEAR. He's got
> some
> > > credability!
> > >
> > > Katie
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Randy Noll [mailto:rnoll98@yahoo.com]
> > > Sent: Tuesday, February 12, 2002 12:54 PM
> > > To: joey@hotngui.com; ba-autox@autox.team.net
> > > Subject: Re: AutoX School -- street tires vs. race tires
> > >
> > >
> > > Joey,
> > >
> > > Be careful with the hoosiers, you want to be sure the tires last ALL
> > > DAY LONG. Heat probably won't be as much of a problem as tire wear. My
> > > co-driver and I went through 2/3 of a set of KUMHOS at last year's
> > > school, though the GGF surface is probably more abrasive than 3COM, not
> > > sure on that tho.
> > >
> > > Also, as Katie said, you most likeley will be focusing a lot more on
> > > theory and technique that will transcend tire choice and, in many
> > > cases, car choice. I drive an MR2 and actually rented a '00 Miata for
> > > one school I took last year. It was bone stock with street tires and
> > > was still a great learning experience. Everything I learned carried
> > > over to my MR2.
> > >
> > > I would guess you'd probably toast a new set of Hoosiers at a school,
> > > that's an expensive day :) Plus, you blow a turn early while learning a
> > > corner and you could be on flatspotted tires for the rest of the day...
> > > for that reason alone I wouldn't bring Hoosiers to a school.
> > >
> > > I'd run the cheapest streets you can find and work on theory and
> > > technique.
> > >
> > > My 2 cents :)
> > >
> > > Randy
> > >
> > >
> > > --- Joey Jarosz <joey@hotngui.com> wrote:
> > > > Thanx everyone for the advice. I think I'll go with my race tires
> > > > because...
> > > >
> > > > 1. I think I have enough experience with my street tires on
> > > > autocross and the road track to know how they work
> > > > 2. I am definitely running the race tires all year (rain not
> > > > withstanding) and have already done 2 events with them this year
> > > > 3. I am already writing off this set of hoosiers as my "learning"
> > > > tires and fully expect to need to replace them with new rubber
> > > > before the season is over (SCCA, NASA, AAS)
> > > > 4. After winning the Slush Novice 1 championship last year while
> > > > staring at my new racing tires sitting in my garage, I just want
> > > > to have some fun with them finally...
> > > >
> > > > thanx,
> > > > joey
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > That's funny, because I was just telling Joey to run do whatever
> > > > would save him more money. I think what most instructors teach
> > > > transcends tire choice anyway, though I could be wrong.
> > > > >
> > > > > Katie
> > > > >
> > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > From: james creasy [mailto:Black94PGT@pacbell.net]
> > > > > Sent: Tuesday, February 12, 2002 8:44 AM
> > > > > To: Joey Jarosz; ba-autox@autox.team.net
> > > > > Subject: Re: AutoX School -- street tires vs. race tires
> > > > >
> > > > > i would use whatever you will be using during the season. you will
> > > > > practicing/learning new techniques, so you want your car to be in
> > > > race trim.
> > > > >
> > > > > -james
> > > > >
> > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > > From: "Joey Jarosz" <joey@hotngui.com>
> > > > > To: <ba-autox@autox.team.net>
> > > > > Sent: Saturday, February 09, 2002 7:30 AM
> > > > > Subject: AutoX School -- street tires vs. race tires
> > > > >
> > > > > > I'm looking for opinions from qualified individuals about whether
> > > > or not
> > > > > its
> > > > > > a good idea to use street tires or autocross race tires during
> > > > the
> > > > > upcoming
> > > > > > autocross schools. I can see some benefits and downsides to both.
> > > > I have
> > > > > > more than a few races under my belt and I am NOT running in the
> > > > Novice
> > > > > class
> > > > > > this year.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > thanx,
> > > > > > joey jarosz
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > >
> > > > Joey Jarosz
> > > > hot-n-GUI, Inc.
> > > > (408) 247-5582
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