Joey,
It seems to me that almost everybody is recommending you would use your
street tires. I also detect that you have been bitten by the dreaded R tire
bug and no matter what everybody says, you are going to justify running on
them at the school. There is nothing wrong with that. If you can afford
it, more power to you. If you are looking for a stamp of approval from this
bunch, don't hold your breath (I'm not counting the guy who runs around on R
tires on the street). :)
--Navid
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Joey Jarosz [mailto:joey@hotngui.com]
> Sent: Tuesday, February 12, 2002 2:02 PM
> To: ba-autox@autox.team.net
> Subject: Re: AutoX School -- street tires vs. race tires
>
>
> Thanx again everyone for the advice. I see everyone's points but still
> cannot decide...
>
> a) My vette has antilock brakes so flat spotting my tires is
> a non-issue
> b) My street tires are much more expensive then my race tires
> and are kind
> of soft so
> they wear pretty fast (granted not as fast as the hoosiers)
> c) After running 2 events on my hoosiers already this year, I can
> definitely say the
> handling characteristics between my hoosiers and my
> street tires are
> VERY
> different.
> d) I'm no expert (a very relative term) but I am pretty good
> at most of
> the basic
> driving techniques and in knowing the correct line.
>
> I'm so confused...
> Of course, I can probably swap tires during lunch at the schools.
>
> thanx,
> joey (Yes Virginia, I do want to have my cake and eat it too) jarosz
>
>
> Randy Noll wrote:
>
> > Joey,
> >
> > Be careful with the hoosiers, you want to be sure the tires last ALL
> > DAY LONG. Heat probably won't be as much of a problem as
> tire wear. My
> > co-driver and I went through 2/3 of a set of KUMHOS at last year's
> > school, though the GGF surface is probably more abrasive
> than 3COM, not
> > sure on that tho.
> >
> > Also, as Katie said, you most likeley will be focusing a lot more on
> > theory and technique that will transcend tire choice and, in many
> > cases, car choice. I drive an MR2 and actually rented a '00
> Miata for
> > one school I took last year. It was bone stock with street tires and
> > was still a great learning experience. Everything I learned carried
> > over to my MR2.
> >
> > I would guess you'd probably toast a new set of Hoosiers at
> a school,
> > that's an expensive day :) Plus, you blow a turn early
> while learning a
> > corner and you could be on flatspotted tires for the rest
> of the day...
> > for that reason alone I wouldn't bring Hoosiers to a school.
> >
> > I'd run the cheapest streets you can find and work on theory and
> > technique.
> >
> > My 2 cents :)
> >
> > Randy
> >
> > --- Joey Jarosz <joey@hotngui.com> wrote:
> > > Thanx everyone for the advice. I think I'll go with my race tires
> > > because...
> > >
> > > 1. I think I have enough experience with my street tires on
> > > autocross and the road track to know how they work
> > > 2. I am definitely running the race tires all year (rain not
> > > withstanding) and have already done 2 events with them this year
> > > 3. I am already writing off this set of hoosiers as my "learning"
> > > tires and fully expect to need to replace them with new rubber
> > > before the season is over (SCCA, NASA, AAS)
> > > 4. After winning the Slush Novice 1 championship last year while
> > > staring at my new racing tires sitting in my garage, I just want
> > > to have some fun with them finally...
> > >
> > > thanx,
> > > joey
> > >
> > >
> > > > That's funny, because I was just telling Joey to run do whatever
> > > would save him more money. I think what most instructors teach
> > > transcends tire choice anyway, though I could be wrong.
> > > >
> > > > Katie
> > > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: james creasy [mailto:Black94PGT@pacbell.net]
> > > > Sent: Tuesday, February 12, 2002 8:44 AM
> > > > To: Joey Jarosz; ba-autox@autox.team.net
> > > > Subject: Re: AutoX School -- street tires vs. race tires
> > > >
> > > > i would use whatever you will be using during the
> season. you will
> > > > practicing/learning new techniques, so you want your
> car to be in
> > > race trim.
> > > >
> > > > -james
> > > >
> > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > From: "Joey Jarosz" <joey@hotngui.com>
> > > > To: <ba-autox@autox.team.net>
> > > > Sent: Saturday, February 09, 2002 7:30 AM
> > > > Subject: AutoX School -- street tires vs. race tires
> > > >
> > > > > I'm looking for opinions from qualified individuals
> about whether
> > > or not
> > > > its
> > > > > a good idea to use street tires or autocross race tires during
> > > the
> > > > upcoming
> > > > > autocross schools. I can see some benefits and
> downsides to both.
> > > I have
> > > > > more than a few races under my belt and I am NOT
> running in the
> > > Novice
> > > > class
> > > > > this year.
> > > > >
> > > > > thanx,
> > > > > joey jarosz
> > >
> > > --
> > >
> > > Joey Jarosz
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> > > (408) 247-5582
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>
> Joey Jarosz
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