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That reminds me, using the 3/16 drill bit technique (as detailed in the re=
pair manual) to adjust the solenoid may or may not work.=C2=A0 Due to wear =
and manufacturing tolerances it is not uncommon that the adjustment needs t=
o be deeper than what this method provides.=C2=A0 I found that I needed to =
go about 1/10th inch (2mm) beyond that to get reliable operation.
I don't remember if this works with the engine not running but if you manua=
lly operate the lever you can feel where it engages the valve.=C2=A0 If you=
see the holes line up before or at this point in the range of movement the=
n you will need to set the solenoid where it will pull the lever even furth=
er.
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-----Original Message-----
From: EDWARD WOODS <fogbro1@comcast.net>
To: Kinderlehrer <kinderlehrer@comcast.net>; Art McEwen <artwmcewen@gmail.c=
om>; DAVID MASSEY <dave1massey@cs.com>
Cc: triumphs@autox.team.net
Sent: Sat, Jul 17, 2021 8:18 pm
Subject: Re: [TR] TR3 O/D Solenoid plate
A pressure test with a gauge from Jay Holekamp is a great idea. While you=
r waiting for its arrival, loosen the clamping bolt and take the car for a =
ride. Reach across the transmission and operate the lever manually (the one=
you put the 3/16=E2=80=9D drill into when you adjust the solenoid). If the=
overdrive kicks in, you have a solenoid or solenoid adjustment problem. Th=
e overdrives O.K. Better still have a passenger operate the lever, so that =
you can concentrate on your driving. And watch out for that spinning prop s=
haft. Loose clothing not allowed. =C2=A0 By the way, if you have a func=
tioning ammeter and the solenoid is connected on its load side, you can obs=
erve the operation of the solenoid on the meter. =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Ed Woods=
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On 07/17/2021 3:35 PM Kinderlehrer <kinderlehrer@comcast.net> wrote: =
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 Before you do anything else, do a load test on the batter=
y. Even if it is producing 12 volts it may not be producing the 20 amps nee=
ded to engage the OD. Bob =C2=A0 From: Triumphs [mailto:triumphs-bounces=
@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Art McEwen
Sent: Saturday, July 17, 2021 11:24 AM
To: DAVID MASSEY
Cc: triumphs@autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [TR] TR3 O/D Solenoid plate =C2=A0 Nothing went sproing whe=
n I took the plate off and I think I=E2=80=99ve got the leak sealed but no =
amount of solenoid adjustment will engage the overdrive. =C2=A0:(. The spri=
ngs weren=E2=80=99t removed and I presume they=E2=80=99re still seated wher=
e they were. =C2=A0 I=E2=80=99m wondering if some of the sludge in the =
bottom of the case that I tried to remove got relocated to a valve body som=
ewhere. =C2=A0Thinking of taking it for a road test then changing fluid aga=
in. =20
On Jul 15, 2021, at 1:54 PM, Art McEwen <artwmcewen@gmail.com> wrote: =20
=C2=A0 Thanks! Art =C2=A0 On Thu, Jul 15, 2021, 11:25 AM DAVID MASS=
EY <dave1massey@cs.com> wrote: =20
Nothing will go sproing but you will likely loose your solenoid adjustme=
nt.=C2=A0 Not a big deal as adjusting is pretty simple. =C2=A0 Dave =
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 -----Original Message-----
From: Art McEwen <artwmcewen@gmail.com>
To: triumphs@autox.team.net
Sent: Thu, Jul 15, 2021 9:48 am
Subject: [TR] TR3 O/D Solenoid plate It's weeping oil (even more than "a=
cceptable"), can I loosen the 4 screws to add gasket goop without misaligni=
ng the plunger/spring thingy behind it or is it safe to remove entirely whi=
le in place without something going "sprong"? =C2=A0 Thanks, =C2=A0 =
Art TS64???LO ** triumphs@autox.team.net **
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<div> <font size=3D"3">That reminds me, using the 3/16 drill bit technique =
(as detailed in the repair manual) to adjust the solenoid may or may not wo=
rk. Due to wear and manufacturing tolerances it is not uncommon that =
the adjustment needs to be deeper than what this method provides. I f=
ound that I needed to go about 1/10th inch (2mm) beyond that to get reliabl=
e operation.</font></div>
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</font></div>
<div><font size=3D"3">I don't remember if this works with the engine not ru=
nning but if you manually operate the lever you can feel where it engages t=
he valve. If you see the holes line up before or at this point in the=
range of movement then you will need to set the solenoid where it will pul=
l the lever even further.</font><br>
</div>
<div> <br>
</div>
<div style=3D"clear:both"><font size=3D"4">Dave </font><br>
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</div>
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size=3D"2">-----Original Message-----<br>
From: EDWARD WOODS <fogbro1@comcast.net><br>
To: Kinderlehrer <kinderlehrer@comcast.net>; Art McEwen <artwmcewe=
n@gmail.com>; DAVID MASSEY <dave1massey@cs.com><br>
Cc: triumphs@autox.team.net<br>
Sent: Sat, Jul 17, 2021 8:18 pm<br>
Subject: Re: [TR] TR3 O/D Solenoid plate<br>
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:#333333;">
<span style=3D"font-family:helvetica;font-size:12pt;">A pressure test wi=
th a gauge from Jay Holekamp is a great idea. While your waiting for its ar=
rival, loosen the clamping bolt and take the car for a ride. Reach across t=
he transmission and operate the lever manually (the one you put the 3/16=E2=
=80=9D drill into when you adjust the solenoid). If the overdrive kicks in,=
you have a solenoid or solenoid adjustment problem. The overdrives O.K. Be=
tter still have a passenger operate the lever, so that you can concentrate =
on your driving. And watch out for that spinning prop shaft. Loose clothing=
not allowed.</span>
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:#333333;">
<span style=3D"font-family:helvetica;font-size:12pt;">By the way, if you=
have a functioning ammeter and the solenoid is connected on its load side,=
you can observe the operation of the solenoid on the meter. </span>
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<span style=3D"font-family:helvetica;font-size:12pt;">Ed Woods</span>
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family:'Calibri', 'sans-serif';color:#1f497d;">Before you do anything else,=
do a load test on the battery. Even if it is producing 12 volts it may not=
be producing the 20 amps needed to engage the OD. </span></div>
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family:'Calibri', 'sans-serif';color:#1f497d;">Bob</span></div>
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pt;font-family:'Tahoma', 'sans-serif';">From:</span></strong><span style=3D=
"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:'Tahoma', 'sans-serif';"> Triumphs [mailto:tr=
iumphs-bounces@autox.team.net] <strong>On Behalf Of </strong>Art McEwen<br =
clear=3D"none"><strong>Sent:</strong> Saturday, July 17, 2021 11:24 AM<br c=
lear=3D"none"><strong>To:</strong> DAVID MASSEY<br clear=3D"none"><strong>C=
c:</strong> triumphs@autox.team.net<br clear=3D"none"><strong>Subject:</str=
ong> Re: [TR] TR3 O/D Solenoid plate</span></div>
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<div class=3D"yiv1647432192MsoNormal">Nothing went sproing when I took the =
plate off and I think I=E2=80=99ve got the leak sealed but no amount of sol=
enoid adjustment will engage the overdrive. :(. The springs weren=E2=
=80=99t removed and I presume they=E2=80=99re still seated where they were.=
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<div class=3D"yiv1647432192MsoNormal">I=E2=80=99m wondering if some of the =
sludge in the bottom of the case that I tried to remove got relocated to a =
valve body somewhere. Thinking of taking it for a road test then chan=
ging fluid again.</div>
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l 15, 2021, at 1:54 PM, Art McEwen <<a rel=3D"nofollow noopener noreferr=
er" shape=3D"rect" ymailto=3D"mailto:artwmcewen@gmail.com"; target=3D"_blank=
" href=3D"mailto:artwmcewen@gmail.com";>artwmcewen@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<=
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MASSEY <<a rel=3D"nofollow noopener noreferrer" shape=3D"rect" ymailto=
=3D"mailto:dave1massey@cs.com"; target=3D"_blank" href=3D"mailto:dave1massey=
@cs.com">dave1massey@cs.com</a>> wrote:</div>
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sans-serif';color:black;">Nothing will go sproing but you will likely loose=
your solenoid adjustment. Not a big deal as adjusting is pretty simp=
le.</span></div>
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-----Original Message-----<br clear=3D"none">From: Art McEwen <<a rel=3D=
"nofollow noopener noreferrer" shape=3D"rect" ymailto=3D"mailto:artwmcewen@=
gmail.com" target=3D"_blank" href=3D"mailto:artwmcewen@gmail.com";>artwmcewe=
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_blank" href=3D"mailto:triumphs@autox.team.net";>triumphs@autox.team.net</a>=
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family:'Arial', 'sans-serif';color:black;">It's weeping oil (even more than=
"acceptable"), can I loosen the 4 screws to add gasket goop without misali=
gning the plunger/spring thingy behind it or is it safe to remove entirely =
while in place without something going "sprong"?</span></div>
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