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Re: [TR] Triumphs Digest, Vol 14, Issue 159

To: triumphs@autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [TR] Triumphs Digest, Vol 14, Issue 159
From: Carl Carlson <actionsl@att.net>
Date: Sun, 18 Jul 2021 11:27:30 -0700
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Carl

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> Today's Topics:
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>   1. Re: TR3 O/D Solenoid plate (Art McEwen)
>   2. Re: TR3 O/D Solenoid plate (Kinderlehrer)
>   3. Re: TR3 O/D Solenoid plate (Art McEwen)
>   4. Re: TR7 salvage in San Diego (DAVID MASSEY)
>   5. Re: TR3 O/D Solenoid plate (Randy and Valerie DeRuiter)
>   6. Re: TR3 O/D Solenoid plate (DAVID MASSEY)
>   7. Re: TR3 O/D Solenoid plate (Dave Connitt)
>   8. Re: TR3 O/D Solenoid plate (Art McEwen)
>   9. Re: TR3 O/D Solenoid plate (EDWARD WOODS)
>  10. Re: TR3 O/D Solenoid plate (EDWARD WOODS)
>  11. Re: TR3 O/D Solenoid plate (Art McEwen)
>  12. Re: TR3 O/D Solenoid plate (Paul Tegler)
>  13. Re: TR3 O/D Solenoid plate (Paul Tegler)
>  14. Re: TR3 O/D Solenoid plate (DAVID MASSEY)
> 
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> Message: 1
> Date: Sat, 17 Jul 2021 14:23:49 -0400
> From: Art McEwen <artwmcewen@gmail.com>
> To: DAVID MASSEY <dave1massey@cs.com>
> Cc: triumphs@autox.team.net
> Subject: Re: [TR] TR3 O/D Solenoid plate
> Message-ID: <8EB42F8A-94FA-43BC-8C0D-A233C78A9385@gmail.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
> 
> Nothing went sproing when I took the plate off and I think I?ve got the leak 
> sealed but no amount of solenoid adjustment will engage the overdrive.  :(. 
> The springs weren?t removed and I presume they?re still seated where they 
> were.
> 
> I?m wondering if some of the sludge in the bottom of the case that I tried to 
> remove got relocated to a valve body somewhere.  Thinking of taking it for a 
> road test then changing fluid again.
> 
>> On Jul 15, 2021, at 1:54 PM, Art McEwen <artwmcewen@gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>> ?
>> Thanks!
>> 
>> Art
>> 
>>>> On Thu, Jul 15, 2021, 11:25 AM DAVID MASSEY <dave1massey@cs.com> wrote:
>>> Nothing will go sproing but you will likely loose your solenoid adjustment. 
>>>  Not a big deal as adjusting is pretty simple.
>>> 
>>> Dave 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Art McEwen <artwmcewen@gmail.com>
>>> To: triumphs@autox.team.net
>>> Sent: Thu, Jul 15, 2021 9:48 am
>>> Subject: [TR] TR3 O/D Solenoid plate
>>> 
>>> It's weeping oil (even more than "acceptable"), can I loosen the 4 screws 
>>> to add gasket goop without misaligning the plunger/spring thingy behind it 
>>> or is it safe to remove entirely while in place without something going 
>>> "sprong"?
>>> 
>>> Thanks,
>>> 
>>> Art 
>>> TS64???LO 
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> Message: 2
> Date: Sat, 17 Jul 2021 12:35:37 -0700
> From: "Kinderlehrer" <kinderlehrer@comcast.net>
> To: "'Art McEwen'" <artwmcewen@gmail.com>, "'DAVID MASSEY'"
>    <dave1massey@cs.com>
> Cc: <triumphs@autox.team.net>
> Subject: Re: [TR] TR3 O/D Solenoid plate
> Message-ID: <001b01d77b42$ec0864b0$c4192e10$@net>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
> 
> Before you do anything else, do a load test on the battery. Even if it is 
> producing 12 volts it may not be producing the 20 amps needed to engage the 
> OD. 
> 
> Bob
> 
> 
> 
> From: Triumphs [mailto:triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Art 
> McEwen
> Sent: Saturday, July 17, 2021 11:24 AM
> To: DAVID MASSEY
> Cc: triumphs@autox.team.net
> Subject: Re: [TR] TR3 O/D Solenoid plate
> 
> 
> 
> Nothing went sproing when I took the plate off and I think I?ve got the leak 
> sealed but no amount of solenoid adjustment will engage the overdrive.  :(. 
> The springs weren?t removed and I presume they?re still seated where they 
> were.
> 
> 
> 
> I?m wondering if some of the sludge in the bottom of the case that I tried to 
> remove got relocated to a valve body somewhere.  Thinking of taking it for a 
> road test then changing fluid again.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On Jul 15, 2021, at 1:54 PM, Art McEwen <artwmcewen@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> ?
> 
> Thanks!
> 
> Art
> 
> 
> 
> On Thu, Jul 15, 2021, 11:25 AM DAVID MASSEY <dave1massey@cs.com> wrote:
> 
> Nothing will go sproing but you will likely loose your solenoid adjustment.  
> Not a big deal as adjusting is pretty simple.
> 
> 
> 
> Dave 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Art McEwen <artwmcewen@gmail.com>
> To: triumphs@autox.team.net
> Sent: Thu, Jul 15, 2021 9:48 am
> Subject: [TR] TR3 O/D Solenoid plate
> 
> It's weeping oil (even more than "acceptable"), can I loosen the 4 screws to 
> add gasket goop without misaligning the plunger/spring thingy behind it or is 
> it safe to remove entirely while in place without something going "sprong"?
> 
> 
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> 
> 
> Art 
> 
> TS64???LO 
> 
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> Message: 3
> Date: Sat, 17 Jul 2021 15:44:43 -0400
> From: Art McEwen <artwmcewen@gmail.com>
> To: Kinderlehrer <kinderlehrer@comcast.net>
> Cc: DAVID MASSEY <dave1massey@cs.com>, triumphs@autox.team.net
> Subject: Re: [TR] TR3 O/D Solenoid plate
> Message-ID: <110594F3-8CE4-4DE9-BF70-79FB58AFEE2A@gmail.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
> 
> Hi Bob, solenoid itself is operating fine but o/d is not engaging (running in 
> 2nd gear on jacks).  Pretty sure it?s not the adjustment as I?ve lined it up 
> with the hole on the far side (and a little either side).  Won?t engage when 
> operated by hand either.
> 
>> On Jul 17, 2021, at 3:35 PM, Kinderlehrer <kinderlehrer@comcast.net> wrote:
>> 
>> ?
>> Before you do anything else, do a load test on the battery. Even if it is 
>> producing 12 volts it may not be producing the 20 amps needed to engage the 
>> OD.
>> Bob
>> 
>> From: Triumphs [mailto:triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Art 
>> McEwen
>> Sent: Saturday, July 17, 2021 11:24 AM
>> To: DAVID MASSEY
>> Cc: triumphs@autox.team.net
>> Subject: Re: [TR] TR3 O/D Solenoid plate
>> 
>> Nothing went sproing when I took the plate off and I think I?ve got the leak 
>> sealed but no amount of solenoid adjustment will engage the overdrive.  :(. 
>> The springs weren?t removed and I presume they?re still seated where they 
>> were.
>> 
>> I?m wondering if some of the sludge in the bottom of the case that I tried 
>> to remove got relocated to a valve body somewhere.  Thinking of taking it 
>> for a road test then changing fluid again.
>> 
>> 
>> On Jul 15, 2021, at 1:54 PM, Art McEwen <artwmcewen@gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>> ?
>> Thanks!
>> 
>> Art
>> 
>> On Thu, Jul 15, 2021, 11:25 AM DAVID MASSEY <dave1massey@cs.com> wrote:
>> Nothing will go sproing but you will likely loose your solenoid adjustment.  
>> Not a big deal as adjusting is pretty simple.
>> 
>> Dave
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Art McEwen <artwmcewen@gmail.com>
>> To: triumphs@autox.team.net
>> Sent: Thu, Jul 15, 2021 9:48 am
>> Subject: [TR] TR3 O/D Solenoid plate
>> 
>> It's weeping oil (even more than "acceptable"), can I loosen the 4 screws to 
>> add gasket goop without misaligning the plunger/spring thingy behind it or 
>> is it safe to remove entirely while in place without something going 
>> "sprong"?
>> 
>> Thanks,
>> 
>> Art
>> TS64???LO
>> ** triumphs@autox.team.net **
>> 
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> Message: 4
> Date: Sun, 18 Jul 2021 00:29:17 +0000 (UTC)
> From: DAVID MASSEY <dave1massey@cs.com>
> To: "triumphstag@gmail.com" <triumphstag@gmail.com>,
>    "triumphs@autox.team.net" <triumphs@autox.team.net>,
>    "TTSCC@googlegroups.com" <TTSCC@googlegroups.com>
> Subject: Re: [TR] TR7 salvage in San Diego
> Message-ID: <1668072844.96869.1626568157579@mail.yahoo.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
> 
> Oooo.? Engine fire.? Still, it looks to be in good shape otherwise.? If 
> someone was looking for a ground-up project this might not be a bad start.
> 
> Dave 
> 
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Sujit Roy <triumphstag@gmail.com>
> To: Triumphs <triumphs@autox.team.net>; TTSCC@googlegroups.com
> Sent: Fri, Jul 16, 2021 5:56 pm
> Subject: [TR] TR7 salvage in San Diego
> 
> https://www.copart.com/lot/45637131/salvage-1980-triumph-car-all-models-ca-san-diego
> 
> -- 
> Sujit Roy
> Cupertino, California
> https://triumphstagblog.wordpress.com/
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> Message: 5
> Date: Sun, 18 Jul 2021 00:31:59 +0000
> From: Randy and Valerie DeRuiter <deruiterville@hotmail.com>
> To: Art McEwen <artwmcewen@gmail.com>
> Cc: Kinderlehrer <kinderlehrer@comcast.net>, "triumphs@autox.team.net"
>    <triumphs@autox.team.net>
> Subject: Re: [TR] TR3 O/D Solenoid plate
> Message-ID:
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> 
> Hi Art
> 
> I may have missed all the discussion but you really need to get the operating 
> pressure if the overdrive to help diagnose, especially since you see the 
> solenoid working.
> 
> Jay Holekamp makes a very nice gauge for this
> 
> http://www.geocities.ws/jholekamp/
> 
> Cheers
> Randy
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> On Jul 17, 2021, at 3:47 PM, Art McEwen <artwmcewen@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> ?
> Hi Bob, solenoid itself is operating fine but o/d is not engaging (running in 
> 2nd gear on jacks).  Pretty sure it?s not the adjustment as I?ve lined it up 
> with the hole on the far side (and a little either side).  Won?t engage when 
> operated by hand either.
> 
> On Jul 17, 2021, at 3:35 PM, Kinderlehrer <kinderlehrer@comcast.net> wrote:
> 
> ?
> Before you do anything else, do a load test on the battery. Even if it is 
> producing 12 volts it may not be producing the 20 amps needed to engage the 
> OD.
> Bob
> 
> From: Triumphs [mailto:triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Art 
> McEwen
> Sent: Saturday, July 17, 2021 11:24 AM
> To: DAVID MASSEY
> Cc: triumphs@autox.team.net
> Subject: Re: [TR] TR3 O/D Solenoid plate
> 
> Nothing went sproing when I took the plate off and I think I?ve got the leak 
> sealed but no amount of solenoid adjustment will engage the overdrive.  :(. 
> The springs weren?t removed and I presume they?re still seated where they 
> were.
> 
> I?m wondering if some of the sludge in the bottom of the case that I tried to 
> remove got relocated to a valve body somewhere.  Thinking of taking it for a 
> road test then changing fluid again.
> 
> 
> On Jul 15, 2021, at 1:54 PM, Art McEwen 
> <artwmcewen@gmail.com<mailto:artwmcewen@gmail.com>> wrote:
> ?
> Thanks!
> Art
> 
> On Thu, Jul 15, 2021, 11:25 AM DAVID MASSEY 
> <dave1massey@cs.com<mailto:dave1massey@cs.com>> wrote:
> Nothing will go sproing but you will likely loose your solenoid adjustment.  
> Not a big deal as adjusting is pretty simple.
> 
> Dave
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Art McEwen <artwmcewen@gmail.com<mailto:artwmcewen@gmail.com>>
> To: triumphs@autox.team.net<mailto:triumphs@autox.team.net>
> Sent: Thu, Jul 15, 2021 9:48 am
> Subject: [TR] TR3 O/D Solenoid plate
> It's weeping oil (even more than "acceptable"), can I loosen the 4 screws to 
> add gasket goop without misaligning the plunger/spring thingy behind it or is 
> it safe to remove entirely while in place without something going "sprong"?
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Art
> TS64???LO
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> Message: 6
> Date: Sun, 18 Jul 2021 00:37:29 +0000 (UTC)
> From: DAVID MASSEY <dave1massey@cs.com>
> To: "artwmcewen@gmail.com" <artwmcewen@gmail.com>,
>    "kinderlehrer@comcast.net" <kinderlehrer@comcast.net>
> Cc: "triumphs@autox.team.net" <triumphs@autox.team.net>
> Subject: Re: [TR] TR3 O/D Solenoid plate
> Message-ID: <373655020.95850.1626568649347@mail.yahoo.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
> 
> With no load on the wheels the engine speed will not change but the speedo 
> will jump up.? This can be misleading if you don't know what to watch.
> 
> Dave 
> 
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Art McEwen <artwmcewen@gmail.com>
> To: Kinderlehrer <kinderlehrer@comcast.net>
> Cc: DAVID MASSEY <dave1massey@cs.com>; triumphs@autox.team.net
> Sent: Sat, Jul 17, 2021 2:44 pm
> Subject: Re: [TR] TR3 O/D Solenoid plate
> 
> Hi Bob, solenoid itself is operating fine but o/d is not engaging (running in 
> 2nd gear on jacks). ?Pretty sure it?s not the adjustment as I?ve lined it up 
> with the hole on the far side (and a little either side). ?Won?t engage when 
> operated by hand either.
> 
> On Jul 17, 2021, at 3:35 PM, Kinderlehrer <kinderlehrer@comcast.net> wrote:
> 
> 
> 
> ?
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> ven if it is producing 12 volts it may not be producing the 20 amps needed to 
> engage the OD. Bob ?From: Triumphs [mailto:triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net] 
> On Behalf Of Art McEwen
> Sent: Saturday, July 17, 2021 11:24 AM
> To: DAVID MASSEY
> Cc: triumphs@autox.team.net
> Subject: Re: [TR] TR3 O/D Solenoid plate ?Nothing went sproing when I took 
> the plate off and I think I?ve got the leak sealed but no amount of solenoid 
> adjustment will engage the overdrive. ?:(. The springs weren?t removed and I 
> presume they?re still seated where they were. ?I?m wondering if some of the 
> sludge in the bottom of the case that I tried to remove got relocated to a 
> valve body somewhere. ?Thinking of taking it for a road test then changing 
> fluid again.
> 
> On Jul 15, 2021, at 1:54 PM, Art McEwen <artwmcewen@gmail.com> wrote:
> ?Thanks!Art ?On Thu, Jul 15, 2021, 11:25 AM DAVID MASSEY <dave1massey@cs.com> 
> wrote:
> Nothing will go sproing but you will likely loose your solenoid adjustment.? 
> Not a big deal as adjusting is pretty simple. ?Dave  ? ?-----Original 
> Message-----
> From: Art McEwen <artwmcewen@gmail.com>
> To: triumphs@autox.team.net
> Sent: Thu, Jul 15, 2021 9:48 am
> Subject: [TR] TR3 O/D Solenoid plateIt's weeping oil (even more than 
> "acceptable"), can I loosen the 4 screws to add gasket goop without 
> misaligning the plunger/spring thingy behind it or is it safe to remove 
> entirely while in place without something going "sprong"? ?Thanks, ?Art 
> TS64???LO ** triumphs@autox.team.net **
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> Date: Sat, 17 Jul 2021 20:44:04 -0400
> From: Dave Connitt <dconnitt@fuse.net>
> To: Randy and Valerie DeRuiter <deruiterville@hotmail.com>
> Cc: Art McEwen <artwmcewen@gmail.com>, triumphs@autox.team.net
> Subject: Re: [TR] TR3 O/D Solenoid plate
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> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
> 
> I agree with you Randy, he needs to get a pressure gauge and see if it?s 
> building pressure. If he sees pressure then maybe when the lever on the 
> solenoid was loose, he inadvertently moved tha actuating lever enough to let 
> the metering valve on the opposite end drop down so now the valve isn?t 
> turning the overdrive on  and off? It?s easy to do, ask me how I know.
> Dave Connitt 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Jul 17, 2021, at 8:32 PM, Randy and Valerie DeRuiter 
>> <deruiterville@hotmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>> ? Hi Art
>> 
>> I may have missed all the discussion but you really need to get the 
>> operating pressure if the overdrive to help diagnose, especially since you 
>> see the solenoid working.
>> 
>> Jay Holekamp makes a very nice gauge for this
>> 
>> http://www.geocities.ws/jholekamp/
>> 
>> Cheers
>> Randy
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>>> On Jul 17, 2021, at 3:47 PM, Art McEwen <artwmcewen@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> 
>>> ?
>>> Hi Bob, solenoid itself is operating fine but o/d is not engaging (running 
>>> in 2nd gear on jacks).  Pretty sure it?s not the adjustment as I?ve lined 
>>> it up with the hole on the far side (and a little either side).  Won?t 
>>> engage when operated by hand either.
>>> 
>>>> On Jul 17, 2021, at 3:35 PM, Kinderlehrer <kinderlehrer@comcast.net> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> ?
>>>> Before you do anything else, do a load test on the battery. Even if it is 
>>>> producing 12 volts it may not be producing the 20 amps needed to engage 
>>>> the OD.
>>>> Bob
>>>> 
>>>> From: Triumphs [mailto:triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Art 
>>>> McEwen
>>>> Sent: Saturday, July 17, 2021 11:24 AM
>>>> To: DAVID MASSEY
>>>> Cc: triumphs@autox.team.net
>>>> Subject: Re: [TR] TR3 O/D Solenoid plate
>>>> 
>>>> Nothing went sproing when I took the plate off and I think I?ve got the 
>>>> leak sealed but no amount of solenoid adjustment will engage the 
>>>> overdrive.  :(. The springs weren?t removed and I presume they?re still 
>>>> seated where they were.
>>>> 
>>>> I?m wondering if some of the sludge in the bottom of the case that I tried 
>>>> to remove got relocated to a valve body somewhere.  Thinking of taking it 
>>>> for a road test then changing fluid again.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> On Jul 15, 2021, at 1:54 PM, Art McEwen <artwmcewen@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> ?
>>>> Thanks!
>>>> 
>>>> Art
>>>> 
>>>> On Thu, Jul 15, 2021, 11:25 AM DAVID MASSEY <dave1massey@cs.com> wrote:
>>>> Nothing will go sproing but you will likely loose your solenoid 
>>>> adjustment.  Not a big deal as adjusting is pretty simple.
>>>> 
>>>> Dave
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: Art McEwen <artwmcewen@gmail.com>
>>>> To: triumphs@autox.team.net
>>>> Sent: Thu, Jul 15, 2021 9:48 am
>>>> Subject: [TR] TR3 O/D Solenoid plate
>>>> 
>>>> It's weeping oil (even more than "acceptable"), can I loosen the 4 screws 
>>>> to add gasket goop without misaligning the plunger/spring thingy behind it 
>>>> or is it safe to remove entirely while in place without something going 
>>>> "sprong"?
>>>> 
>>>> Thanks,
>>>> 
>>>> Art
>>>> TS64???LO
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> Date: Sat, 17 Jul 2021 21:17:45 -0400
> From: Art McEwen <artwmcewen@gmail.com>
> To: DAVID MASSEY <dave1massey@cs.com>
> Cc: kinderlehrer@comcast.net, triumphs@autox.team.net
> Subject: Re: [TR] TR3 O/D Solenoid plate
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> Yeah that?s what I?m thinking, however before the surgery there was a 
> definite distinction when it engaged and the wheels turned faster.   Will 
> road test it before panicking.
> 
>> On Jul 17, 2021, at 8:37 PM, DAVID MASSEY <dave1massey@cs.com> wrote:
>> 
>> ?
>> With no load on the wheels the engine speed will not change but the speedo 
>> will jump up.  This can be misleading if you don't know what to watch.
>> 
>> Dave 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Art McEwen <artwmcewen@gmail.com>
>> To: Kinderlehrer <kinderlehrer@comcast.net>
>> Cc: DAVID MASSEY <dave1massey@cs.com>; triumphs@autox.team.net
>> Sent: Sat, Jul 17, 2021 2:44 pm
>> Subject: Re: [TR] TR3 O/D Solenoid plate
>> 
>> Hi Bob, solenoid itself is operating fine but o/d is not engaging (running 
>> in 2nd gear on jacks).  Pretty sure it?s not the adjustment as I?ve lined it 
>> up with the hole on the far side (and a little either side).  Won?t engage 
>> when operated by hand either.
>> 
>>>> On Jul 17, 2021, at 3:35 PM, Kinderlehrer <kinderlehrer@comcast.net> wrote:
>>>> 
>>> ?
>> 
>> Before you do anything else, do a load test on the battery. Even if it is 
>> producing 12 volts it may not be producing the 20 amps needed to engage the 
>> OD.
>> Bob
>> 
>> From: Triumphs [mailto:triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Art 
>> McEwen
>> Sent: Saturday, July 17, 2021 11:24 AM
>> To: DAVID MASSEY
>> Cc: triumphs@autox.team.net
>> Subject: Re: [TR] TR3 O/D Solenoid plate
>> 
>> Nothing went sproing when I took the plate off and I think I?ve got the leak 
>> sealed but no amount of solenoid adjustment will engage the overdrive.  :(. 
>> The springs weren?t removed and I presume they?re still seated where they 
>> were.
>> 
>> I?m wondering if some of the sludge in the bottom of the case that I tried 
>> to remove got relocated to a valve body somewhere.  Thinking of taking it 
>> for a road test then changing fluid again.
>> 
>> 
>> On Jul 15, 2021, at 1:54 PM, Art McEwen <artwmcewen@gmail.com> wrote:
>> ?
>> Thanks!
>> Art
>> 
>> On Thu, Jul 15, 2021, 11:25 AM DAVID MASSEY <dave1massey@cs.com> wrote:
>> Nothing will go sproing but you will likely loose your solenoid adjustment.  
>> Not a big deal as adjusting is pretty simple.
>> 
>> Dave
>> 
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Art McEwen <artwmcewen@gmail.com>
>> To: triumphs@autox.team.net
>> Sent: Thu, Jul 15, 2021 9:48 am
>> Subject: [TR] TR3 O/D Solenoid plate
>> It's weeping oil (even more than "acceptable"), can I loosen the 4 screws to 
>> add gasket goop without misaligning the plunger/spring thingy behind it or 
>> is it safe to remove entirely while in place without something going 
>> "sprong"?
>> 
>> Thanks,
>> 
>> Art
>> TS64???LO
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> Date: Sat, 17 Jul 2021 21:18:42 -0400 (EDT)
> From: EDWARD WOODS <fogbro1@comcast.net>
> To: Kinderlehrer <kinderlehrer@comcast.net>, Art McEwen
>    <artwmcewen@gmail.com>, DAVID MASSEY <dave1massey@cs.com>
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> From: EDWARD WOODS <fogbro1@comcast.net>
> To: Art McEwen <artwmcewen@gmail.com>, Kinderlehrer
>    <kinderlehrer@comcast.net>
> Cc: triumphs@autox.team.net
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> Date: Sat, 17 Jul 2021 21:24:42 -0400
> From: Art McEwen <artwmcewen@gmail.com>
> To: EDWARD WOODS <fogbro1@comcast.net>
> Cc: Kinderlehrer <kinderlehrer@comcast.net>, DAVID MASSEY
>    <dave1massey@cs.com>, triumphs@autox.team.net
> Subject: Re: [TR] TR3 O/D Solenoid plate
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> 
> There?s nothing wrong with the solenoid.  It operates just fine.
> 
> I removed and replaced the solenoid plate to deal with a leak and now the 
> solenoid doesn?t engage the o/d anymore while the car is running on jacks.   
> I was hoping to avoid a half assembled road test.
> 
>> On Jul 17, 2021, at 9:18 PM, EDWARD WOODS <fogbro1@comcast.net> wrote:
>> 
>> ?
>> A pressure test with a gauge from Jay Holekamp is a great idea. While your 
>> waiting for its arrival, loosen the clamping bolt and take the car for a 
>> ride. Reach across the transmission and operate the lever manually (the one 
>> you put the 3/16? drill into when you adjust the solenoid). If the overdrive 
>> kicks in, you have a solenoid or solenoid adjustment problem. The overdrives 
>> O.K. Better still have a passenger operate the lever, so that you can 
>> concentrate on your driving. And watch out for that spinning prop shaft. 
>> Loose clothing not allowed.
>> 
>> By the way, if you have a functioning ammeter and the solenoid is connected 
>> on its load side, you can observe the operation of the solenoid on the 
>> meter.  
>> 
>> Ed Woods
>>>> On 07/17/2021 3:35 PM Kinderlehrer <kinderlehrer@comcast.net> wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Before you do anything else, do a load test on the battery. Even if it is 
>>> producing 12 volts it may not be producing the 20 amps needed to engage the 
>>> OD.
>>> 
>>> Bob
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> From: Triumphs [mailto:triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Art 
>>> McEwen
>>> Sent: Saturday, July 17, 2021 11:24 AM
>>> To: DAVID MASSEY
>>> Cc: triumphs@autox.team.net
>>> Subject: Re: [TR] TR3 O/D Solenoid plate
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Nothing went sproing when I took the plate off and I think I?ve got the 
>>> leak sealed but no amount of solenoid adjustment will engage the overdrive. 
>>>  :(. The springs weren?t removed and I presume they?re still seated where 
>>> they were.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> I?m wondering if some of the sludge in the bottom of the case that I tried 
>>> to remove got relocated to a valve body somewhere.  Thinking of taking it 
>>> for a road test then changing fluid again.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> On Jul 15, 2021, at 1:54 PM, Art McEwen <artwmcewen@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Thanks!
>>> 
>>> Art
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> On Thu, Jul 15, 2021, 11:25 AM DAVID MASSEY <dave1massey@cs.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Nothing will go sproing but you will likely loose your solenoid adjustment. 
>>>  Not a big deal as adjusting is pretty simple.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Dave
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Art McEwen <artwmcewen@gmail.com>
>>> To: triumphs@autox.team.net
>>> Sent: Thu, Jul 15, 2021 9:48 am
>>> Subject: [TR] TR3 O/D Solenoid plate
>>> 
>>> It's weeping oil (even more than "acceptable"), can I loosen the 4 screws 
>>> to add gasket goop without misaligning the plunger/spring thingy behind it 
>>> or is it safe to remove entirely while in place without something going 
>>> "sprong"?
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Thanks,
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Art
>>> 
>>> TS64???LO
>>> 
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> Date: Sat, 17 Jul 2021 21:40:59 -0400
> From: Paul Tegler <ptegler@verizon.net>
> To: triumphs@autox.team.net
> Subject: Re: [TR] TR3 O/D Solenoid plate
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> it's a ~20 amp to engage, then when the core bottoms out it switches to 
> a 5-8 amp holding coil to keep it in place.
> 
> ptegler
> 
>> On 7/17/2021 9:24 PM, Art McEwen wrote:
>> There?s nothing wrong with the solenoid. ?It operates just fine.
>> 
>> I removed and replaced the solenoid plate to deal with a leak and now 
>> the solenoid doesn?t engage the o/d anymore while the car is running 
>> on jacks. ? I was hoping to avoid a half assembled road test.
>> 
>>>> On Jul 17, 2021, at 9:18 PM, EDWARD WOODS <fogbro1@comcast.net> wrote:
>>> 
>>> ?
>>> A pressure test with a gauge from Jay Holekamp is a great idea. While 
>>> your waiting for its arrival, loosen the clamping bolt and take the 
>>> car for a ride. Reach across the transmission and operate the lever 
>>> manually (the one you put the 3/16? drill into when you adjust the 
>>> solenoid). If the overdrive kicks in, you have a solenoid or solenoid 
>>> adjustment problem. The overdrives O.K. Better still have a passenger 
>>> operate the lever, so that you can concentrate on your driving. And 
>>> watch out for that spinning prop shaft. Loose clothing not allowed.
>>> By the way, if you have a functioning ammeter and the solenoid is 
>>> connected on its load side, you can observe the operation of the 
>>> solenoid on the meter.
>>> Ed Woods
>>>> On 07/17/2021 3:35 PM Kinderlehrer <kinderlehrer@comcast.net> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Before you do anything else, do a load test on the battery. Even if 
>>>> it is producing 12 volts it may not be producing the 20 amps needed 
>>>> to engage the OD.
>>>> 
>>>> Bob
>>>> 
>>>> *From:*Triumphs [mailto:triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net] *On Behalf 
>>>> Of *Art McEwen
>>>> *Sent:* Saturday, July 17, 2021 11:24 AM
>>>> *To:* DAVID MASSEY
>>>> *Cc:* triumphs@autox.team.net
>>>> *Subject:* Re: [TR] TR3 O/D Solenoid plate
>>>> 
>>>> Nothing went sproing when I took the plate off and I think I?ve got 
>>>> the leak sealed but no amount of solenoid adjustment will engage the 
>>>> overdrive. ?:(. The springs weren?t removed and I presume they?re 
>>>> still seated where they were.
>>>> 
>>>> I?m wondering if some of the sludge in the bottom of the case that I 
>>>> tried to remove got relocated to a valve body somewhere. ?Thinking 
>>>> of taking it for a road test then changing fluid again.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> On Jul 15, 2021, at 1:54 PM, Art McEwen <artwmcewen@gmail.com 
>>>> <mailto:artwmcewen@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>    Thanks!
>>>> 
>>>>    Art
>>>> 
>>>>    On Thu, Jul 15, 2021, 11:25 AM DAVID MASSEY <dave1massey@cs.com
>>>>    <mailto:dave1massey@cs.com>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>        Nothing will go sproing but you will likely loose your
>>>>        solenoid adjustment.? Not a big deal as adjusting is pretty
>>>>        simple.
>>>> 
>>>>        Dave
>>>> 
>>>>        -----Original Message-----
>>>>        From: Art McEwen <artwmcewen@gmail.com
>>>>        <mailto:artwmcewen@gmail.com>>
>>>>        To: triumphs@autox.team.net <mailto:triumphs@autox.team.net>
>>>>        Sent: Thu, Jul 15, 2021 9:48 am
>>>>        Subject: [TR] TR3 O/D Solenoid plate
>>>> 
>>>>        It's weeping oil (even more than "acceptable"), can I loosen
>>>>        the 4 screws to add gasket goop without misaligning the
>>>>        plunger/spring thingy behind it or is it safe to remove
>>>>        entirely while in place without something going "sprong"?
>>>> 
>>>>        Thanks,
>>>> 
>>>>        Art
>>>> 
>>>>        TS64???LO
>>>> 
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> Date: Sat, 17 Jul 2021 21:52:38 -0400
> From: Paul Tegler <ptegler@verizon.net>
> To: triumphs@autox.team.net
> Subject: Re: [TR] TR3 O/D Solenoid plate
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> put it third or fourth to get some speed (IE: pressure built up) to that 
> output shaft spinning the eccentric pump lobe.
> 
> A 200-300 rpm is barely enough to maintain proper pressure.
> 
> ptegler
> 
>> On 7/17/2021 3:44 PM, Art McEwen wrote:
>> Hi Bob, solenoid itself is operating fine but o/d is not engaging 
>> (running in 2nd gear on jacks). ?Pretty sure it?s not the adjustment 
>> as I?ve lined it up with the hole on the far side (and a little either 
>> side). ?Won?t engage when operated by hand either.
>> 
>>> On Jul 17, 2021, at 3:35 PM, Kinderlehrer <kinderlehrer@comcast.net> 
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> ?
>>> 
>>> Before you do anything else, do a load test on the battery. Even if 
>>> it is producing 12 volts it may not be producing the 20 amps needed 
>>> to engage the OD.
>>> 
>>> Bob
>>> 
>>> *From:*Triumphs [mailto:triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net] *On Behalf 
>>> Of *Art McEwen
>>> *Sent:* Saturday, July 17, 2021 11:24 AM
>>> *To:* DAVID MASSEY
>>> *Cc:* triumphs@autox.team.net
>>> *Subject:* Re: [TR] TR3 O/D Solenoid plate
>>> 
>>> Nothing went sproing when I took the plate off and I think I?ve got 
>>> the leak sealed but no amount of solenoid adjustment will engage the 
>>> overdrive. ?:(. The springs weren?t removed and I presume they?re 
>>> still seated where they were.
>>> 
>>> I?m wondering if some of the sludge in the bottom of the case that I 
>>> tried to remove got relocated to a valve body somewhere. ?Thinking of 
>>> taking it for a road test then changing fluid again.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Jul 15, 2021, at 1:54 PM, Art McEwen <artwmcewen@gmail.com 
>>> <mailto:artwmcewen@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>> 
>>>    ?
>>> 
>>>    Thanks!
>>> 
>>>    Art
>>> 
>>>    On Thu, Jul 15, 2021, 11:25 AM DAVID MASSEY <dave1massey@cscom
>>>    <mailto:dave1massey@cs.com>> wrote:
>>> 
>>>        Nothing will go sproing but you will likely loose your
>>>        solenoid adjustment.? Not a big deal as adjusting is pretty
>>>        simple.
>>> 
>>>        Dave
>>> 
>>>        -----Original Message-----
>>>        From: Art McEwen <artwmcewen@gmail.com
>>>        <mailto:artwmcewen@gmail.com>>
>>>        To: triumphs@autox.team.net <mailto:triumphs@autox.team.net>
>>>        Sent: Thu, Jul 15, 2021 9:48 am
>>>        Subject: [TR] TR3 O/D Solenoid plate
>>> 
>>>        It's weeping oil (even more than "acceptable"), can I loosen
>>>        the 4 screws to add gasket goop without misaligning the
>>>        plunger/spring thingy behind it or is it safe to remove
>>>        entirely while in place without something going "sprong"?
>>> 
>>>        Thanks,
>>> 
>>>        Art
>>> 
>>>        TS64???LO
>>> 
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> Date: Sun, 18 Jul 2021 12:31:21 +0000 (UTC)
> From: DAVID MASSEY <dave1massey@cs.com>
> To: "fogbro1@comcast.net" <fogbro1@comcast.net>,
>    "kinderlehrer@comcast.net" <kinderlehrer@comcast.net>,
>    "artwmcewen@gmail.com" <artwmcewen@gmail.com>
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> Subject: Re: [TR] TR3 O/D Solenoid plate
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> 
> That reminds me, using the 3/16 drill bit technique (as detailed in the 
> repair manual) to adjust the solenoid may or may not work.? Due to wear and 
> manufacturing tolerances it is not uncommon that the adjustment needs to be 
> deeper than what this method provides.? I found that I needed to go about 
> 1/10th inch (2mm) beyond that to get reliable operation.
> I don't remember if this works with the engine not running but if you 
> manually operate the lever you can feel where it engages the valve.? If you 
> see the holes line up before or at this point in the range of movement then 
> you will need to set the solenoid where it will pull the lever even further.
> 
> Dave 
> 
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: EDWARD WOODS <fogbro1@comcast.net>
> To: Kinderlehrer <kinderlehrer@comcast.net>; Art McEwen 
> <artwmcewen@gmail.com>; DAVID MASSEY <dave1massey@cs.com>
> Cc: triumphs@autox.team.net
> Sent: Sat, Jul 17, 2021 8:18 pm
> Subject: Re: [TR] TR3 O/D Solenoid plate
> 
>  A pressure test with a gauge from Jay Holekamp is a great idea. While your 
> waiting for its arrival, loosen the clamping bolt and take the car for a 
> ride. Reach across the transmission and operate the lever manually (the one 
> you put the 3/16? drill into when you adjust the solenoid). If the overdrive 
> kicks in, you have a solenoid or solenoid adjustment problem. The overdrives 
> O.K. Better still have a passenger operate the lever, so that you can 
> concentrate on your driving. And watch out for that spinning prop shaft. 
> Loose clothing not allowed.   ?   By the way, if you have a functioning 
> ammeter and the solenoid is connected on its load side, you can observe the 
> operation of the solenoid on the meter. ?   ?   Ed Woods  
>  On 07/17/2021 3:35 PM Kinderlehrer <kinderlehrer@comcast.net> wrote:   ?   ? 
>   Before you do anything else, do a load test on the battery. Even if it is 
> producing 12 volts it may not be producing the 20 amps needed to engage the 
> OD.  Bob ?   From: Triumphs [mailto:triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net] On 
> Behalf Of Art McEwen
> Sent: Saturday, July 17, 2021 11:24 AM
> To: DAVID MASSEY
> Cc: triumphs@autox.team.net
> Subject: Re: [TR] TR3 O/D Solenoid plate   ?  Nothing went sproing when I 
> took the plate off and I think I?ve got the leak sealed but no amount of 
> solenoid adjustment will engage the overdrive. ?:(. The springs weren?t 
> removed and I presume they?re still seated where they were.   ?   I?m 
> wondering if some of the sludge in the bottom of the case that I tried to 
> remove got relocated to a valve body somewhere. ?Thinking of taking it for a 
> road test then changing fluid again.   
> 
> On Jul 15, 2021, at 1:54 PM, Art McEwen <artwmcewen@gmail.com> wrote:  
>  ?  Thanks!  Art   ?   On Thu, Jul 15, 2021, 11:25 AM DAVID MASSEY 
> <dave1massey@cs.com> wrote:  
>   Nothing will go sproing but you will likely loose your solenoid 
> adjustment.? Not a big deal as adjusting is pretty simple.   ?   Dave    ?   
> ?   -----Original Message-----
> From: Art McEwen <artwmcewen@gmail.com>
> To: triumphs@autox.team.net
> Sent: Thu, Jul 15, 2021 9:48 am
> Subject: [TR] TR3 O/D Solenoid plate    It's weeping oil (even more than 
> "acceptable"), can I loosen the 4 screws to add gasket goop without 
> misaligning the plunger/spring thingy behind it or is it safe to remove 
> entirely while in place without something going "sprong"?   ?   Thanks,   ?   
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