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I agree with you Randy, he needs to get a pressure gauge and see if it=E2=80=
=99s building pressure. If he sees pressure then maybe when the lever on the=
solenoid was loose, he inadvertently moved tha actuating lever enough to le=
t the metering valve on the opposite end drop down so now the valve isn=E2=80=
=99t turning the overdrive on and off? It=E2=80=99s easy to do, ask me how I=
know.
Dave Connitt=20
Sent from my iPhone
> On Jul 17, 2021, at 8:32 PM, Randy and Valerie DeRuiter <deruiterville@hot=
mail.com> wrote:
>=20
> =EF=BB=BF Hi Art
>=20
> I may have missed all the discussion but you really need to get the operat=
ing pressure if the overdrive to help diagnose, especially since you see the=
solenoid working.
>=20
> Jay Holekamp makes a very nice gauge for this
>=20
> http://www.geocities.ws/jholekamp/
>=20
> Cheers
> Randy
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> Sent from my iPhone
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>>> On Jul 17, 2021, at 3:47 PM, Art McEwen <artwmcewen@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>=20
>> =EF=BB=BF
>> Hi Bob, solenoid itself is operating fine but o/d is not engaging (runnin=
g in 2nd gear on jacks). Pretty sure it=E2=80=99s not the adjustment as I=E2=
=80=99ve lined it up with the hole on the far side (and a little either side=
). Won=E2=80=99t engage when operated by hand either.
>>=20
>>> On Jul 17, 2021, at 3:35 PM, Kinderlehrer <kinderlehrer@comcast.net> wro=
te:
>>>=20
>>> =EF=BB=BF
>>> Before you do anything else, do a load test on the battery. Even if it i=
s producing 12 volts it may not be producing the 20 amps needed to engage th=
e OD.
>>> Bob
>>> =20
>>> From: Triumphs [mailto:triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Art=
McEwen
>>> Sent: Saturday, July 17, 2021 11:24 AM
>>> To: DAVID MASSEY
>>> Cc: triumphs@autox.team.net
>>> Subject: Re: [TR] TR3 O/D Solenoid plate
>>> =20
>>> Nothing went sproing when I took the plate off and I think I=E2=80=99ve g=
ot the leak sealed but no amount of solenoid adjustment will engage the over=
drive. :(. The springs weren=E2=80=99t removed and I presume they=E2=80=99r=
e still seated where they were.
>>> =20
>>> I=E2=80=99m wondering if some of the sludge in the bottom of the case th=
at I tried to remove got relocated to a valve body somewhere. Thinking of t=
aking it for a road test then changing fluid again.
>>>=20
>>>=20
>>> On Jul 15, 2021, at 1:54 PM, Art McEwen <artwmcewen@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>=20
>>> =EF=BB=BF
>>> Thanks!
>>>=20
>>> Art
>>> =20
>>> On Thu, Jul 15, 2021, 11:25 AM DAVID MASSEY <dave1massey@cs.com> wrote:
>>> Nothing will go sproing but you will likely loose your solenoid adjustme=
nt. Not a big deal as adjusting is pretty simple.
>>> =20
>>> Dave
>>>=20
>>> =20
>>> =20
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Art McEwen <artwmcewen@gmail.com>
>>> To: triumphs@autox.team.net
>>> Sent: Thu, Jul 15, 2021 9:48 am
>>> Subject: [TR] TR3 O/D Solenoid plate
>>>=20
>>> It's weeping oil (even more than "acceptable"), can I loosen the 4 screw=
s to add gasket goop without misaligning the plunger/spring thingy behind it=
or is it safe to remove entirely while in place without something going "sp=
rong"?
>>> =20
>>> Thanks,
>>> =20
>>> Art
>>> TS64???LO
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<html><head><meta http-equiv=3D"content-type" content=3D"text/html; charset=3D=
utf-8"></head><body dir=3D"auto">I agree with you Randy, he needs to get a p=
ressure gauge and see if it=E2=80=99s building pressure. If he sees pressure=
then maybe when the lever on the solenoid was loose, he inadvertently moved=
tha actuating lever enough to let the metering valve on the opposite end dr=
op down so now the valve isn=E2=80=99t turning the overdrive on and of=
f? It=E2=80=99s easy to do, ask me how I know.<div>Dave Connitt <br><br=
><div dir=3D"ltr">Sent from my iPhone</div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br><blockquote t=
ype=3D"cite">On Jul 17, 2021, at 8:32 PM, Randy and Valerie DeRuiter <der=
uiterville@hotmail.com> wrote:<br><br></blockquote></div><blockquote type=
=3D"cite"><div dir=3D"ltr">=EF=BB=BF
<meta http-equiv=3D"Content-Type" content=3D"text/html; charset=3Dutf-8">
Hi Art
<div><br>
</div>
<div>I may have missed all the discussion but you really need to get the ope=
rating pressure if the overdrive to help diagnose, especially since you see t=
he solenoid working.</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>Jay Holekamp makes a very nice gauge for this</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div><a href=3D"http://www.geocities.ws/jholekamp/";>http://www.geocities.ws/=
jholekamp/</a></div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>Cheers</div>
<div>Randy</div>
<div><br>
<div dir=3D"ltr">Sent from my iPhone</div>
<div dir=3D"ltr"><br>
<blockquote type=3D"cite">On Jul 17, 2021, at 3:47 PM, Art McEwen <artwmc=
ewen@gmail.com> wrote:<br>
<br>
</blockquote>
</div>
<blockquote type=3D"cite">
<div dir=3D"ltr">=EF=BB=BF
<div dir=3D"ltr">Hi Bob, solenoid itself is operating fine but o/d is not en=
gaging (running in 2nd gear on jacks). Pretty sure it=E2=80=99s not th=
e adjustment as I=E2=80=99ve lined it up with the hole on the far side (and a=
little either side). Won=E2=80=99t engage when operated by
hand either.</div>
<div dir=3D"ltr"><br>
<blockquote type=3D"cite">On Jul 17, 2021, at 3:35 PM, Kinderlehrer <kind=
erlehrer@comcast.net> wrote:<br>
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Cal=
ibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Before you do anything else=
, do a load test on the battery. Even if it is producing 12 volts it may not=
be producing the 20 amps needed to engage the OD.
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Cal=
ibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Bob<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><b><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"=
Tahoma","sans-serif"">From:</span></b><span style=3D"font-siz=
e:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif""> Triumphs [m=
ailto:triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Art McEwen<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Saturday, July 17, 2021 11:24 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> DAVID MASSEY<br>
<b>Cc:</b> triumphs@autox.team.net<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [TR] TR3 O/D Solenoid plate<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">Nothing went sproing when I took the plate off and I t=
hink I=E2=80=99ve got the leak sealed but no amount of solenoid adjustment w=
ill engage the overdrive. :(. The springs weren=E2=80=99t removed and I=
presume they=E2=80=99re still seated where they were.<o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
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<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">I=E2=80=99m wondering if some of the sludge in the bo=
ttom of the case that I tried to remove got relocated to a valve body somewh=
ere. Thinking of taking it for a road test then changing fluid again.<=
o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><br>
<br>
<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-bottom:12.0pt">On Jul 15, 2021, at 1:=
54 PM, Art McEwen <<a href=3D"mailto:artwmcewen@gmail.com";>artwmcewen@gma=
il.com</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-family:"Tahoma","s=
ans-serif"">=EF=BB=BF</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-bottom:12.0pt">Thanks!<o:p></o:p></p>=
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal">Art<o:p></o:p></p>
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</div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal">On Thu, Jul 15, 2021, 11:25 AM DAVID MASSEY <<a hr=
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-family:"Arial","sa=
ns-serif";color:black">Nothing will go sproing but you will likely loos=
e your solenoid adjustment. Not a big deal as adjusting is pretty simp=
le.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-family:"Arial","sa=
ns-serif";color:black"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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ze:13.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black">=
Dave
</span><span style=3D"font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";c=
olor:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-family:"Arial","sa=
ns-serif";color:black"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-family:"Arial","sa=
ns-serif";color:black"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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ze:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black">=
-----Original Message-----<br>
From: Art McEwen <<a href=3D"mailto:artwmcewen@gmail.com"; target=3D"_blan=
k">artwmcewen@gmail.com</a>><br>
To: <a href=3D"mailto:triumphs@autox.team.net"; target=3D"_blank">triumphs@au=
tox.team.net</a><br>
Sent: Thu, Jul 15, 2021 9:48 am<br>
Subject: [TR] TR3 O/D Solenoid plate<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<div id=3D"m_-568949139145977063yiv2214504240">
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<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Ari=
al","sans-serif";color:black">It's weeping oil (even more tha=
n "acceptable"), can I loosen the 4 screws to add gasket goop without misali=
gning the plunger/spring thingy behind it or is it safe
to remove entirely while in place without something going "sprong"?<o:p></o=
:p></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Ari=
al","sans-serif";color:black"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Ari=
al","sans-serif";color:black">Thanks,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Ari=
al","sans-serif";color:black">Art
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Ari=
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