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Re: [TR] TR3 O/D Solenoid plate

To: DAVID MASSEY <dave1massey@cs.com>
Subject: Re: [TR] TR3 O/D Solenoid plate
From: Art McEwen <artwmcewen@gmail.com>
Date: Sat, 17 Jul 2021 21:17:45 -0400
Cc: triumphs@autox.team.net
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Yeah that=E2=80=99s what I=E2=80=99m thinking, however before the surgery th=
ere was a definite distinction when it engaged and the wheels turned faster.=
   Will road test it before panicking.

> On Jul 17, 2021, at 8:37 PM, DAVID MASSEY <dave1massey@cs.com> wrote:
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> With no load on the wheels the engine speed will not change but the speedo=
 will jump up.  This can be misleading if you don't know what to watch.
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> Dave=20
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Art McEwen <artwmcewen@gmail.com>
> To: Kinderlehrer <kinderlehrer@comcast.net>
> Cc: DAVID MASSEY <dave1massey@cs.com>; triumphs@autox.team.net
> Sent: Sat, Jul 17, 2021 2:44 pm
> Subject: Re: [TR] TR3 O/D Solenoid plate
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> Hi Bob, solenoid itself is operating fine but o/d is not engaging (running=
 in 2nd gear on jacks).  Pretty sure it=E2=80=99s not the adjustment as I=E2=
=80=99ve lined it up with the hole on the far side (and a little either side=
).  Won=E2=80=99t engage when operated by hand either.
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>>> On Jul 17, 2021, at 3:35 PM, Kinderlehrer <kinderlehrer@comcast.net> wro=
te:
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> Before you do anything else, do a load test on the battery. Even if it is p=
roducing 12 volts it may not be producing the 20 amps needed to engage the O=
D.
> Bob
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> From: Triumphs [mailto:triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Art M=
cEwen
> Sent: Saturday, July 17, 2021 11:24 AM
> To: DAVID MASSEY
> Cc: triumphs@autox.team.net
> Subject: Re: [TR] TR3 O/D Solenoid plate
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> Nothing went sproing when I took the plate off and I think I=E2=80=99ve go=
t the leak sealed but no amount of solenoid adjustment will engage the overd=
rive.  :(. The springs weren=E2=80=99t removed and I presume they=E2=80=99re=
 still seated where they were.
> =20
> I=E2=80=99m wondering if some of the sludge in the bottom of the case that=
 I tried to remove got relocated to a valve body somewhere.  Thinking of tak=
ing it for a road test then changing fluid again.
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> On Jul 15, 2021, at 1:54 PM, Art McEwen <artwmcewen@gmail.com> wrote:
> =EF=BB=BF
> Thanks!
> Art
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> On Thu, Jul 15, 2021, 11:25 AM DAVID MASSEY <dave1massey@cs.com> wrote:
> Nothing will go sproing but you will likely loose your solenoid adjustment=
.  Not a big deal as adjusting is pretty simple.
> =20
> Dave
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Art McEwen <artwmcewen@gmail.com>
> To: triumphs@autox.team.net
> Sent: Thu, Jul 15, 2021 9:48 am
> Subject: [TR] TR3 O/D Solenoid plate
> It's weeping oil (even more than "acceptable"), can I loosen the 4 screws t=
o add gasket goop without misaligning the plunger/spring thingy behind it or=
 is it safe to remove entirely while in place without something going "spron=
g"?
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> Thanks,
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> Art
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<html><head><meta http-equiv=3D"content-type" content=3D"text/html; charset=3D=
utf-8"></head><body dir=3D"auto"><div dir=3D"ltr">Yeah that=E2=80=99s what I=
=E2=80=99m thinking, however before the surgery there was a definite distinc=
tion when it engaged and the wheels turned faster. &nbsp; Will road test it b=
efore panicking.</div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br><blockquote type=3D"cite">On Jul 1=
7, 2021, at 8:37 PM, DAVID MASSEY &lt;dave1massey@cs.com&gt; wrote:<br><br><=
/blockquote></div><blockquote type=3D"cite"><div dir=3D"ltr">=EF=BB=BF
<div style=3D"color:black;font: 12pt Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;">
<div> <font size=3D"3">With no load on the wheels the engine speed will not c=
hange but the speedo will jump up.&nbsp; This can be misleading if you don't=
 know what to watch.</font><br>
</div>

<div> <br>
</div>

<div style=3D"clear:both"><font size=3D"4">Dave </font><br>
<br>
</div>

<div> <br>
</div>

<div> <br>
</div>

<div style=3D"font-family:arial,helvetica;font-size:10pt;color:black"><font s=
ize=3D"2">-----Original Message-----<br>
From: Art McEwen &lt;artwmcewen@gmail.com&gt;<br>
To: Kinderlehrer &lt;kinderlehrer@comcast.net&gt;<br>
Cc: DAVID MASSEY &lt;dave1massey@cs.com&gt;; triumphs@autox.team.net<br>
Sent: Sat, Jul 17, 2021 2:44 pm<br>
Subject: Re: [TR] TR3 O/D Solenoid plate<br>
<br>

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<div dir=3D"ltr">Hi Bob, solenoid itself is operating fine but o/d is not en=
gaging (running in 2nd gear on jacks). &nbsp;Pretty sure it=E2=80=99s not th=
e adjustment as I=E2=80=99ve lined it up with the hole on the far side (and a=
 little either side). &nbsp;Won=E2=80=99t engage when operated by hand eithe=
r.</div>

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<div dir=3D"ltr"><br clear=3D"none"><blockquote type=3D"cite">On Jul 17, 202=
1, at 3:35 PM, Kinderlehrer &lt;kinderlehrer@comcast.net&gt; wrote:<br clear=
=3D"none"><br clear=3D"none"></blockquote></div>
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<div class=3D"yiv6808487530MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;color:=
#1F497D;">Before you do anything else, do a load test on the battery. Even i=
f it is producing 12 volts it may not be producing the 20 amps needed to eng=
age the OD. </span></div>

<div class=3D"yiv6808487530MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;color:=
#1F497D;">Bob</span></div>

<div class=3D"yiv6808487530MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;color:=
#1F497D;"> &nbsp;</span></div>

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in 0in;">
<div class=3D"yiv6808487530MsoNormal"><b><span 
style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;">From:=
</span></b><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;"> Triumphs [mailto:triumphs-boun=
ces@autox.team.net] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Art McEwen<br clear=3D"none"><b>Sent=
:</b> Saturday, July 17, 2021 11:24 AM<br clear=3D"none"><b>To:</b> DAVID MA=
SSEY<br clear=3D"none"><b>Cc:</b> triumphs@autox.team.net<br clear=3D"none">=
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [TR] TR3 O/D Solenoid plate</span></div>
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<div class=3D"yiv6808487530MsoNormal"> &nbsp;</div>

<div>
<div class=3D"yiv6808487530MsoNormal">Nothing went sproing when I took the p=
late off and I think I=E2=80=99ve got the leak sealed but no amount of solen=
oid adjustment will engage the overdrive. &nbsp;:(. The springs weren=E2=80=99=
t removed and I presume they=E2=80=99re still seated where they were.</div>
</div>

<div>
<div class=3D"yiv6808487530MsoNormal"> &nbsp;</div>
</div>

<div>
<div class=3D"yiv6808487530MsoNormal">I=E2=80=99m wondering if some of the s=
ludge in the bottom of the case that I tried to remove got relocated to a va=
lve body somewhere. &nbsp;Thinking of taking it for a road test then changin=
g fluid again.</div>
</div>

<div>
<div class=3D"yiv6808487530MsoNormal"><br clear=3D"none"><br clear=3D"none">=
</div>

<div class=3D"yiv6808487530MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-bottom:12.0pt;">On Jul=
 15, 2021, at 1:54 PM, Art McEwen &lt;<a rel=3D"nofollow noopener noreferrer=
" shape=3D"rect" ymailto=3D"mailto:artwmcewen@gmail.com"; target=3D"_blank" h=
ref=3D"mailto:artwmcewen@gmail.com";>artwmcewen@gmail.com</a>&gt; wrote:</div=
>
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>

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<div class=3D"yiv6808487530MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-bottom:12.0pt;">Thanks=
!</div>

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<div class=3D"yiv6808487530MsoNormal">Art</div>
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</div>

<div class=3D"yiv6808487530MsoNormal"> &nbsp;</div>

<div>
<div>
<div class=3D"yiv6808487530MsoNormal">On Thu, Jul 15, 2021, 11:25 AM DAVID M=
ASSEY &lt;<a rel=3D"nofollow noopener noreferrer" shape=3D"rect" ymailto=3D"=
mailto:dave1massey@cs.com"; target=3D"_blank" href=3D"mailto:dave1massey@cs.c=
om">dave1massey@cs.com</a>&gt; wrote:</div>
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<div>
<div class=3D"yiv6808487530MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:black;">Nothing w=
ill go sproing but you will likely loose your solenoid adjustment.&nbsp; Not=
 a big deal as adjusting is pretty simple.</span></div>
</div>

<div>
<div class=3D"yiv6808487530MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:black;"> &nbsp;</=
span></div>
</div>

<div>
<div class=3D"yiv6808487530MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-bottom:12.0pt;"><span s=
tyle=3D"font-size:13.5pt;color:black;">Dave </span><span style=3D"color:blac=
k;"></span></div>
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span></div>
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<div class=3D"yiv6808487530MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:black;"> &nbsp;</=
span></div>
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<div class=3D"yiv6808487530MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-bottom:12.0pt;"><span s=
tyle=3D"font-size:10.0pt;color:black;">-----Original Message-----<br clear=3D=
"none">From: Art McEwen &lt;<a rel=3D"nofollow noopener noreferrer" shape=3D=
"rect" ymailto=3D"mailto:artwmcewen@gmail.com"; target=3D"_blank" href=3D"mai=
lto:artwmcewen@gmail.com">artwmcewen@gmail.com</a>&gt;<br clear=3D"none">To:=
 <a rel=3D"nofollow noopener noreferrer" shape=3D"rect" ymailto=3D"mailto:tr=
iumphs@autox.team.net" target=3D"_blank" href=3D"mailto:triumphs@autox.team.=
net">triumphs@autox.team.net</a><br clear=3D"none">Sent: Thu, Jul 15, 2021 9=
:48 am<br clear=3D"none">Subject: [TR] TR3 O/D Solenoid plate</span></div>

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<div>
<div class=3D"yiv6808487530MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;color:=
black;">It's weeping oil (even more than "acceptable"), can I loosen the 4 s=
crews to add gasket goop without misaligning the plunger/spring thingy behin=
d it or is it safe to remove entirely while in place without something going=
 "sprong"?</span></div>
</div>

<div>
<div class=3D"yiv6808487530MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;color:=
black;"> &nbsp;</span></div>
</div>

<div>
<div class=3D"yiv6808487530MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;color:=
black;">Thanks,</span></div>
</div>

<div>
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black;"> &nbsp;</span></div>
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<div class=3D"yiv6808487530MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;color:=
black;">Art </span></div>
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