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Re: [TR] TR3 O/D Solenoid plate

To: EDWARD WOODS <fogbro1@comcast.net>
Subject: Re: [TR] TR3 O/D Solenoid plate
From: Art McEwen <artwmcewen@gmail.com>
Date: Sat, 17 Jul 2021 21:24:42 -0400
Cc: triumphs@autox.team.net
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There=E2=80=99s nothing wrong with the solenoid.  It operates just fine.

I removed and replaced the solenoid plate to deal with a leak and now the so=
lenoid doesn=E2=80=99t engage the o/d anymore while the car is running on ja=
cks.   I was hoping to avoid a half assembled road test.

> On Jul 17, 2021, at 9:18 PM, EDWARD WOODS <fogbro1@comcast.net> wrote:
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> =EF=BB=BF
> A pressure test with a gauge from Jay Holekamp is a great idea. While your=
 waiting for its arrival, loosen the clamping bolt and take the car for a ri=
de. Reach across the transmission and operate the lever manually (the one yo=
u put the 3/16=E2=80=9D drill into when you adjust the solenoid). If the ove=
rdrive kicks in, you have a solenoid or solenoid adjustment problem. The ove=
rdrives O.K. Better still have a passenger operate the lever, so that you ca=
n concentrate on your driving. And watch out for that spinning prop shaft. L=
oose clothing not allowed.
> =20
> By the way, if you have a functioning ammeter and the solenoid is connecte=
d on its load side, you can observe the operation of the solenoid on the met=
er. =20
> =20
> Ed Woods
>> On 07/17/2021 3:35 PM Kinderlehrer <kinderlehrer@comcast.net> wrote:
>> =20
>> =20
>> Before you do anything else, do a load test on the battery. Even if it is=
 producing 12 volts it may not be producing the 20 amps needed to engage the=
 OD.
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>> Bob
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>> =20
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>> From: Triumphs [mailto:triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Art M=
cEwen
>> Sent: Saturday, July 17, 2021 11:24 AM
>> To: DAVID MASSEY
>> Cc: triumphs@autox.team.net
>> Subject: Re: [TR] TR3 O/D Solenoid plate
>>=20
>> =20
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>> Nothing went sproing when I took the plate off and I think I=E2=80=99ve g=
ot the leak sealed but no amount of solenoid adjustment will engage the over=
drive.  :(. The springs weren=E2=80=99t removed and I presume they=E2=80=99r=
e still seated where they were.
>>=20
>> =20
>>=20
>> I=E2=80=99m wondering if some of the sludge in the bottom of the case tha=
t I tried to remove got relocated to a valve body somewhere.  Thinking of ta=
king it for a road test then changing fluid again.
>>=20
>>=20
>>=20
>>=20
>> On Jul 15, 2021, at 1:54 PM, Art McEwen <artwmcewen@gmail.com> wrote:
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>> =20
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>> Thanks!
>>=20
>> Art
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>> =20
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>> On Thu, Jul 15, 2021, 11:25 AM DAVID MASSEY <dave1massey@cs.com> wrote:
>>=20
>> Nothing will go sproing but you will likely loose your solenoid adjustmen=
t.  Not a big deal as adjusting is pretty simple.
>>=20
>> =20
>>=20
>> Dave
>>=20
>> =20
>>=20
>> =20
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>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Art McEwen <artwmcewen@gmail.com>
>> To: triumphs@autox.team.net
>> Sent: Thu, Jul 15, 2021 9:48 am
>> Subject: [TR] TR3 O/D Solenoid plate
>>=20
>> It's weeping oil (even more than "acceptable"), can I loosen the 4 screws=
 to add gasket goop without misaligning the plunger/spring thingy behind it o=
r is it safe to remove entirely while in place without something going "spro=
ng"?
>>=20
>> =20
>>=20
>> Thanks,
>>=20
>> =20
>>=20
>> Art
>>=20
>> TS64???LO
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<html><head><meta http-equiv=3D"content-type" content=3D"text/html; charset=3D=
utf-8"></head><body dir=3D"auto"><div dir=3D"ltr">There=E2=80=99s nothing wr=
ong with the solenoid. &nbsp;It operates just fine.</div><div dir=3D"ltr"><b=
r></div><div dir=3D"ltr">I removed and replaced the solenoid plate to deal w=
ith a leak and now the solenoid doesn=E2=80=99t engage the o/d anymore while=
 the car is running on jacks. &nbsp; I was hoping to avoid a half assembled r=
oad test.</div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br><blockquote type=3D"cite">On Jul 17, 202=
1, at 9:18 PM, EDWARD WOODS &lt;fogbro1@comcast.net&gt; wrote:<br><br></bloc=
kquote></div><blockquote type=3D"cite"><div dir=3D"ltr">=EF=BB=BF

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  <meta charset=3D"UTF-8">=20
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  <div style=3D"font-size: 12pt; font-family: helvetica,arial,sans-serif; co=
lor: #333333;">
   <span style=3D"font-family: helvetica; font-size: 12pt;">A pressure test w=
ith a gauge from Jay Holekamp is a great idea. While your waiting for its ar=
rival, loosen the clamping bolt and take the car for a ride. Reach across th=
e transmission and operate the lever manually (the one you put the 3/16=E2=80=
=9D drill into when you adjust the solenoid). If the overdrive kicks in, you=
 have a solenoid or solenoid adjustment problem. The overdrives O.K. Better s=
till have a passenger operate the lever, so that you can concentrate on your=
 driving. And watch out for that spinning prop shaft. Loose clothing not all=
owed.</span>
  </div>=20
  <div style=3D"font-size: 12pt; font-family: helvetica,arial,sans-serif; co=
lor: #333333;">
   &nbsp;
  </div>=20
  <div style=3D"font-size: 12pt; font-family: helvetica,arial,sans-serif; co=
lor: #333333;">
   <span style=3D"font-family: helvetica; font-size: 12pt;">By the way, if y=
ou have a functioning ammeter and the solenoid is connected on its load side=
, you can observe the operation of the solenoid on the meter. &nbsp;</span>
  </div>=20
  <div style=3D"font-size: 12pt; font-family: helvetica,arial,sans-serif; co=
lor: #333333;">
   &nbsp;
  </div>=20
  <div style=3D"font-size: 12pt; font-family: helvetica,arial,sans-serif; co=
lor: #333333;">
   <span style=3D"font-family: helvetica; font-size: 12pt;">Ed Woods</span>
  </div>=20
  <blockquote type=3D"cite">=20
   <div>
    On 07/17/2021 3:35 PM Kinderlehrer &lt;kinderlehrer@comcast.net&gt; wrot=
e:
   </div>=20
   <div>
    &nbsp;
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   <div>
    &nbsp;
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   <div class=3D"WordSection1">=20
    <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size: 11.0pt; font-family: 'C=
alibri','sans-serif'; color: #1f497d;">Before you do anything else, do a loa=
d test on the battery. Even if it is producing 12 volts it may not be produc=
ing the 20 amps needed to engage the OD. </span></p>=20
    <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size: 11.0pt; font-family: 'C=
alibri','sans-serif'; color: #1f497d;">Bob</span></p>=20
    <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size: 11.0pt; font-family: 'C=
alibri','sans-serif'; color: #1f497d;">&nbsp;</span></p>=20
    <div>=20
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.0pt 0in 0in 0in;">=20
      <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><strong><span style=3D"font-size: 10.0pt; font-=
family: 'Tahoma','sans-serif';">From:</span></strong><span style=3D"font-siz=
e: 10.0pt; font-family: 'Tahoma','sans-serif';"> Triumphs [mailto:triumphs-b=
ounces@autox.team.net] <strong>On Behalf Of </strong>Art McEwen<br><strong>S=
ent:</strong> Saturday, July 17, 2021 11:24 AM<br><strong>To:</strong> DAVID=
 MASSEY<br><strong>Cc:</strong> triumphs@autox.team.net<br><strong>Subject:<=
/strong> Re: [TR] TR3 O/D Solenoid plate</span></p>=20
     </div>=20
    </div>=20
    <p class=3D"MsoNormal">&nbsp;</p>=20
    <div>=20
     <p class=3D"MsoNormal">Nothing went sproing when I took the plate off a=
nd I think I=E2=80=99ve got the leak sealed but no amount of solenoid adjust=
ment will engage the overdrive. &nbsp;:(. The springs weren=E2=80=99t remove=
d and I presume they=E2=80=99re still seated where they were.</p>=20
    </div>=20
    <div>=20
     <p class=3D"MsoNormal">&nbsp;</p>=20
    </div>=20
    <div>=20
     <p class=3D"MsoNormal">I=E2=80=99m wondering if some of the sludge in t=
he bottom of the case that I tried to remove got relocated to a valve body s=
omewhere. &nbsp;Thinking of taking it for a road test then changing fluid ag=
ain.</p>=20
    </div>=20
    <div>=20
     <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><br><br></p>=20
     <p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-bottom: 12.0pt;">On Jul 15, 2021=
, at 1:54 PM, Art McEwen &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:artwmcewen@gmail.com";>artwmce=
wen@gmail.com</a>&gt; wrote:</p>=20
    </div>=20
    <blockquote>=20
     <div>=20
      <p class=3D"MsoNormal">&nbsp;</p>=20
      <div>=20
       <p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-bottom: 12.0pt;">Thanks!</p>=20=

       <div>=20
        <p class=3D"MsoNormal">Art</p>=20
       </div>=20
      </div>=20
      <p class=3D"MsoNormal">&nbsp;</p>=20
      <div>=20
       <div>=20
        <p class=3D"MsoNormal">On Thu, Jul 15, 2021, 11:25 AM DAVID MASSEY &=
lt;<a href=3D"mailto:dave1massey@cs.com";>dave1massey@cs.com</a>&gt; wrote:</=
p>=20
       </div>=20
       <blockquote>=20
        <div>=20
         <div>=20
          <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-family: 'Arial','sans-s=
erif'; color: black;">Nothing will go sproing but you will likely loose your=
 solenoid adjustment.&nbsp; Not a big deal as adjusting is pretty simple.</s=
pan></p>=20
         </div>=20
         <div>=20
          <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-family: 'Arial','sans-s=
erif'; color: black;">&nbsp;</span></p>=20
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         <div>=20
          <p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-bottom: 12.0pt;"><span styl=
e=3D"font-size: 13.5pt; font-family: 'Arial','sans-serif'; color: black;">Da=
ve </span></p>=20
         </div>=20
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          <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-family: 'Arial','sans-s=
erif'; color: black;">&nbsp;</span></p>=20
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          <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-family: 'Arial','sans-s=
erif'; color: black;">&nbsp;</span></p>=20
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         <div>=20
          <p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-bottom: 12.0pt;"><span styl=
e=3D"font-size: 10.0pt; font-family: 'Arial','sans-serif'; color: black;">--=
---Original Message-----<br>From: Art McEwen &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:artwmcewe=
n@gmail.com" target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"noopener">artwmcewen@gmail.com</a>&gt;=
<br>To: <a href=3D"mailto:triumphs@autox.team.net"; target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"=
noopener">triumphs@autox.team.net</a><br>Sent: Thu, Jul 15, 2021 9:48 am<br>=
Subject: [TR] TR3 O/D Solenoid plate</span></p>=20
          <div id=3D"m_-568949139145977063yiv2214504240">=20
           <div>=20
            <div>=20
             <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size: 10.0pt; font-f=
amily: 'Arial','sans-serif'; color: black;">It's weeping oil (even more than=
 "acceptable"), can I loosen the 4 screws to add gasket goop without misalig=
ning the plunger/spring thingy behind it or is it safe to remove entirely wh=
ile in place without something going "sprong"?</span></p>=20
            </div>=20
            <div>=20
             <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size: 10.0pt; font-f=
amily: 'Arial','sans-serif'; color: black;">&nbsp;</span></p>=20
            </div>=20
            <div>=20
             <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size: 10.0pt; font-f=
amily: 'Arial','sans-serif'; color: black;">Thanks,</span></p>=20
            </div>=20
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amily: 'Arial','sans-serif'; color: black;">&nbsp;</span></p>=20
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             <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size: 10.0pt; font-f=
amily: 'Arial','sans-serif'; color: black;">Art </span></p>=20
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