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Re: [TR] TR4 Won't Start

To: "'Andrew Uprichard'" <auprichard@uprichard.net>, "'Keith Richard Stewart'" <keithstewart@bell.net>, <triumphs@autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: [TR] TR4 Won't Start
From: "Kinderlehrer" <kinderlehrer@comcast.net>
Date: Thu, 13 Jun 2019 09:08:49 -0700
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When my car started running very poorly, I assumed that if it was the
Pertronix, it wouldn't run at all. Poor assumption. The magnets in the
collar went all askew, so it was sparking but at all the wrong times. I
don't know if that's the situation here, but I think the next thing I would
do is replace the Pertronix with points. Even if that doesn't solve the
problem, at least you can static time it and get a baseline. Next I would
look for a vacuum leak.

  

Bob

 

From: Triumphs [mailto:triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Andrew
Uprichard
Sent: Thursday, June 13, 2019 5:58 AM
To: 'Keith Richard Stewart'; triumphs@autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [TR] TR4 Won't Start

 

Hey, Keith:

 

I think we are still in "information gathering mode" J

 

You say "there were only 3 cylinders getting spark", but then "I also had
spark on #2, #3, and #4", so it sounds like you do have a spark at all 4
plugs?  One thing you do not mention is the state of the plugs:  are they
wet and fouled, suggesting flooding?

 

Have you done a compression test?

 

My experience with Pertronix is when they fail there is no spark, but maybe
someone else will chime in on whether a failure could still have a spark,
albeit insufficient to get the car to run.

 

Andrew Uprichard

Jackson, Michigan

 


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class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'color:#1F497D'>When my car started =
running very poorly, I assumed that if it was the Pertronix, it =
wouldn&#8217;t run at all. Poor assumption. The magnets in the collar =
went all askew, so it was sparking but at all the wrong times. I =
don&#8217;t know if that&#8217;s the situation here, but I think the =
next thing I would do is replace the Pertronix with points. Even if that =
doesn&#8217;t solve the problem, at least you can static time it and get =
a baseline. Next I would look for a vacuum leak.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'color:#1F497D'> =
&nbsp;&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'color:#1F497D'>Bob<o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'color:#1F497D'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><div><div =
style=3D'border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in =
0in 0in'><p class=3DMsoNormal><b><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span>=
</b><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> =
Triumphs [mailto:triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net] <b>On Behalf Of =
</b>Andrew Uprichard<br><b>Sent:</b> Thursday, June 13, 2019 5:58 =
AM<br><b>To:</b> 'Keith Richard Stewart'; =
triumphs@autox.team.net<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [TR] TR4 Won't =
Start<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Times New Roman","serif"'>Hey, =
Keith:<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Times New =
Roman","serif"'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Times New Roman","serif"'>I think we are still in =
&#8220;information gathering mode&#8221; </span><span =
style=3D'font-family:Wingdings'>J</span><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Times New Roman","serif"'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-family:"Times New =
Roman","serif"'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Times New Roman","serif"'>You say &#8220;there =
were only 3 cylinders getting spark&#8221;, but then &#8220;</span><span =
lang=3DEN-CA>I also had spark on #2, #3, and #4&#8221;, so it sounds =
like you do have a spark at all 4 plugs?&nbsp; One thing you do not =
mention is the state of the plugs:&nbsp; are they wet and fouled, =
suggesting flooding?<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
lang=3DEN-CA><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
lang=3DEN-CA>Have you done a compression test?<o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span lang=3DEN-CA><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span lang=3DEN-CA>My experience with Pertronix is =
when they fail there is no spark, but maybe someone else will chime in =
on whether a failure could still have a spark, albeit insufficient to =
get the car to run.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
lang=3DEN-CA><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
lang=3DEN-CA>Andrew Uprichard<o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span lang=3DEN-CA>Jackson, Michigan</span><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Times New Roman","serif"'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
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Roman","serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p></div></body></=
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