I'd like to think it was something so noble, but I have been reading your
posts too long. Your espoused ideals are simply not the basis for your
comments. Its the opportunity to jump on Fred. You can fool some of the
people some of the time, etc.
Several times I have written posts reacting to your diatribes at Fred, saved
them for a day, and then not send them often because I thought better of it.
You oughta try it some time. Knock it off. Like I said, I, for one, am DAMN
tired of it.
Jim Altman jaltman@altlaw.com Illigitimi non Carborundum
<http://www.altlaw.com/metro/jaltman.html> 69-TR6 80-TR8 W4UCK
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-triumphs@autox.team.net
[mailto:owner-triumphs@autox.team.net]On Behalf Of Beth and Ken
Sent: Thursday, January 03, 1980 12:33 AM
To: Jim Altman
Cc: 'Triumph Digest List'
Subject: Re: upholstery shops
Jim;
Not "every time he says something"... but racist remarks need to be
addressed. If you feel otherwise, if your level of tolerance is different
than mine, well...that reinforces what I feel is a need for some of us to
react to. Whether it's on a bus, in a school, or on the list.
ken
----- Original Message -----
From: Jim Altman <jaltman@altlaw.com>
To: 'John Runge' <greentr3@ptd.net>
Cc: 'triumphs@autox. team. net' (E-mail) <triumphs@autox.team.net>
Sent: Sunday, April 16, 2000 9:08 AM
Subject: RE: upholstery shops
>
> Its not that at all. Its Ken who insists on jumping down Fred's throat
> everytime he says something. I for one, am pretty damn tired of it.
>
>
>
> Jim Altman jaltman@altlaw.com Illigitimi non Carborundum
> <http://www.altlaw.com/metro/jaltman.html> 69-TR6 80-TR8 W4UCK
>
>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-triumphs@autox.team.net
> [mailto:owner-triumphs@autox.team.net]On Behalf Of John Runge
> Sent: Sunday, April 16, 2000 9:11 AM
> To: Beth and Ken
> Subject: RE: upholstery shops
>
>
>
> Fellow Listers,
>
> Something is rotten in Denmark.....
>
> Can't we just be friends?
>
> Why do we have to jump at each other's throat each time we open our mouth
> and say something 'notpoliticallycorrect'?
>
> Some people do speak with an accent or look different (including me).
>
> If we always have to concentrate on being politically correct all the
time,
> we won't have time to help each other fixing our TRs.
>
> If someone makes a comment that 'hits home' with me, I just consider the
> source and forget about it.
>
> Personally I don't blame Fred for being ticked-off, but, I guess he just
> forgot to powder-coat his remark :-)
>
> Thanks for listening.
>
> John
>
> Ps. I'm Danish (from Denmark) and I speak with an Irish accent (Go
figure)
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-triumphs@autox.team.net
[mailto:owner-triumphs@autox.team.net]On
> Behalf Of Beth and Ken
> Sent: Thursday, January 03, 1980 3:12 AM
> To: Mark Gendron; Fred Thomas; triumphs@autox.team.net
> Cc: spitfires@autox.team.net
> Subject: Re: upholstery shops
>
>
> Mark;
>
> We tend not to be as sensitive to slurs made against some groups as to
those
> made against others. Since we're more attuned to the racism directed at
> Af.rican Americans, consider Fred's remarks as if they were made in the
> dialect of what a racist would use for Black dialect. Maybe now you see
it?
> Not just my feeling...fellow Triumph lover and friend, Michael Le
(Vietnam),
> was rather ticked when he read the original post. Fred's remark was
> insensitive at best.
>
> ken shapiro
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Mark Gendron <mgendron@speakeasy.org>
> To: Beth and Ken <bethken@erols.com>; Fred Thomas <vafred@erols.com>;
> <triumphs@autox.team.net>
> Cc: <spitfires@autox.team.net>
> Sent: Saturday, April 15, 2000 8:23 PM
> Subject: RE: upholstery shops
>
>
> >
> > I don't think Fred's comment was racist. I think he was
> > frustrated about having an expensive piece of upholstery
> > buggered up by someone who hasn't mastered the basics of
> > his trade. I was just pointing out that such unfortunate
> > experiences can happen no matter who you are dealing
> > with.
> >
> > Certainly, such clowns are disproportionately
> > represented by guys who talk like Bruce Springsteen,
> > but I'm sure that's just a statistical anomaly. ;-)
> >
> > -mg
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Beth and Ken [mailto:bethken@erols.com]
> > Sent: Wednesday, January 02, 1980 9:36 PM
> > To: Mark Gendron; Fred Thomas; triumphs@autox.team.net
> > Cc: spitfires@autox.team.net
> > Subject: Re: upholstery shops
> >
> >
> > Except then it would only be regionist as opposed to racist.
> >
> > ken
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: Mark Gendron <mgendron@speakeasy.org>
> > To: Fred Thomas <vafred@erols.com>; <triumphs@autox.team.net>
> > Cc: <spitfires@autox.team.net>
> > Sent: Saturday, April 15, 2000 3:12 PM
> > Subject: RE: upholstery shops
> >
> >
> > >
> > > > From: Fred Thomas
> > > > Subject: upholstery shops
> > > >
> > > > Now he tells me "O-So, No Can Do That Way", no
> > > > understand your english so good, sollie.
> > >
> > > Well, to be fair, I have heard the same thing many
> > > times with a New Jersey accent.
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
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