I, for one, totally agree with Jim
Tom
DeBary Fl
Jim Altman wrote:
>
> I'd like to think it was something so noble, but I have been reading your
> posts too long. Your espoused ideals are simply not the basis for your
> comments. Its the opportunity to jump on Fred. You can fool some of the
> people some of the time, etc.
>
> Several times I have written posts reacting to your diatribes at Fred, saved
> them for a day, and then not send them often because I thought better of it.
> You oughta try it some time. Knock it off. Like I said, I, for one, am DAMN
> tired of it.
>
> Jim Altman jaltman@altlaw.com Illigitimi non Carborundum
> <http://www.altlaw.com/metro/jaltman.html> 69-TR6 80-TR8 W4UCK
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-triumphs@autox.team.net
> [mailto:owner-triumphs@autox.team.net]On Behalf Of Beth and Ken
> Sent: Thursday, January 03, 1980 12:33 AM
> To: Jim Altman
> Cc: 'Triumph Digest List'
> Subject: Re: upholstery shops
>
> Jim;
>
> Not "every time he says something"... but racist remarks need to be
> addressed. If you feel otherwise, if your level of tolerance is different
> than mine, well...that reinforces what I feel is a need for some of us to
> react to. Whether it's on a bus, in a school, or on the list.
>
> ken
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Jim Altman <jaltman@altlaw.com>
> To: 'John Runge' <greentr3@ptd.net>
> Cc: 'triumphs@autox. team. net' (E-mail) <triumphs@autox.team.net>
> Sent: Sunday, April 16, 2000 9:08 AM
> Subject: RE: upholstery shops
>
> >
> > Its not that at all. Its Ken who insists on jumping down Fred's throat
> > everytime he says something. I for one, am pretty damn tired of it.
> >
> >
> >
> > Jim Altman jaltman@altlaw.com Illigitimi non Carborundum
> > <http://www.altlaw.com/metro/jaltman.html> 69-TR6 80-TR8 W4UCK
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: owner-triumphs@autox.team.net
> > [mailto:owner-triumphs@autox.team.net]On Behalf Of John Runge
> > Sent: Sunday, April 16, 2000 9:11 AM
> > To: Beth and Ken
> > Subject: RE: upholstery shops
> >
> >
> >
> > Fellow Listers,
> >
> > Something is rotten in Denmark.....
> >
> > Can't we just be friends?
> >
> > Why do we have to jump at each other's throat each time we open our mouth
> > and say something 'notpoliticallycorrect'?
> >
> > Some people do speak with an accent or look different (including me).
> >
> > If we always have to concentrate on being politically correct all the
> time,
> > we won't have time to help each other fixing our TRs.
> >
> > If someone makes a comment that 'hits home' with me, I just consider the
> > source and forget about it.
> >
> > Personally I don't blame Fred for being ticked-off, but, I guess he just
> > forgot to powder-coat his remark :-)
> >
> > Thanks for listening.
> >
> > John
> >
> > Ps. I'm Danish (from Denmark) and I speak with an Irish accent (Go
> figure)
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: owner-triumphs@autox.team.net
> [mailto:owner-triumphs@autox.team.net]On
> > Behalf Of Beth and Ken
> > Sent: Thursday, January 03, 1980 3:12 AM
> > To: Mark Gendron; Fred Thomas; triumphs@autox.team.net
> > Cc: spitfires@autox.team.net
> > Subject: Re: upholstery shops
> >
> >
> > Mark;
> >
> > We tend not to be as sensitive to slurs made against some groups as to
> those
> > made against others. Since we're more attuned to the racism directed at
> > Af.rican Americans, consider Fred's remarks as if they were made in the
> > dialect of what a racist would use for Black dialect. Maybe now you see
> it?
> > Not just my feeling...fellow Triumph lover and friend, Michael Le
> (Vietnam),
> > was rather ticked when he read the original post. Fred's remark was
> > insensitive at best.
> >
> > ken shapiro
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: Mark Gendron <mgendron@speakeasy.org>
> > To: Beth and Ken <bethken@erols.com>; Fred Thomas <vafred@erols.com>;
> > <triumphs@autox.team.net>
> > Cc: <spitfires@autox.team.net>
> > Sent: Saturday, April 15, 2000 8:23 PM
> > Subject: RE: upholstery shops
> >
> >
> > >
> > > I don't think Fred's comment was racist. I think he was
> > > frustrated about having an expensive piece of upholstery
> > > buggered up by someone who hasn't mastered the basics of
> > > his trade. I was just pointing out that such unfortunate
> > > experiences can happen no matter who you are dealing
> > > with.
> > >
> > > Certainly, such clowns are disproportionately
> > > represented by guys who talk like Bruce Springsteen,
> > > but I'm sure that's just a statistical anomaly. ;-)
> > >
> > > -mg
> > >
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Beth and Ken [mailto:bethken@erols.com]
> > > Sent: Wednesday, January 02, 1980 9:36 PM
> > > To: Mark Gendron; Fred Thomas; triumphs@autox.team.net
> > > Cc: spitfires@autox.team.net
> > > Subject: Re: upholstery shops
> > >
> > >
> > > Except then it would only be regionist as opposed to racist.
> > >
> > > ken
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: Mark Gendron <mgendron@speakeasy.org>
> > > To: Fred Thomas <vafred@erols.com>; <triumphs@autox.team.net>
> > > Cc: <spitfires@autox.team.net>
> > > Sent: Saturday, April 15, 2000 3:12 PM
> > > Subject: RE: upholstery shops
> > >
> > >
> > > >
> > > > > From: Fred Thomas
> > > > > Subject: upholstery shops
> > > > >
> > > > > Now he tells me "O-So, No Can Do That Way", no
> > > > > understand your english so good, sollie.
> > > >
> > > > Well, to be fair, I have heard the same thing many
> > > > times with a New Jersey accent.
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> >
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