Jim;
Not "every time he says something"... but racist remarks need to be
addressed. If you feel otherwise, if your level of tolerance is different
than mine, well...that reinforces what I feel is a need for some of us to
react to. Whether it's on a bus, in a school, or on the list.
ken
----- Original Message -----
From: Jim Altman <jaltman@altlaw.com>
To: 'John Runge' <greentr3@ptd.net>
Cc: 'triumphs@autox. team. net' (E-mail) <triumphs@autox.team.net>
Sent: Sunday, April 16, 2000 9:08 AM
Subject: RE: upholstery shops
>
> Its not that at all. Its Ken who insists on jumping down Fred's throat
> everytime he says something. I for one, am pretty damn tired of it.
>
>
>
> Jim Altman jaltman@altlaw.com Illigitimi non Carborundum
> <http://www.altlaw.com/metro/jaltman.html> 69-TR6 80-TR8 W4UCK
>
>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-triumphs@autox.team.net
> [mailto:owner-triumphs@autox.team.net]On Behalf Of John Runge
> Sent: Sunday, April 16, 2000 9:11 AM
> To: Beth and Ken
> Subject: RE: upholstery shops
>
>
>
> Fellow Listers,
>
> Something is rotten in Denmark.....
>
> Can't we just be friends?
>
> Why do we have to jump at each other's throat each time we open our mouth
> and say something 'notpoliticallycorrect'?
>
> Some people do speak with an accent or look different (including me).
>
> If we always have to concentrate on being politically correct all the
time,
> we won't have time to help each other fixing our TRs.
>
> If someone makes a comment that 'hits home' with me, I just consider the
> source and forget about it.
>
> Personally I don't blame Fred for being ticked-off, but, I guess he just
> forgot to powder-coat his remark :-)
>
> Thanks for listening.
>
> John
>
> Ps. I'm Danish (from Denmark) and I speak with an Irish accent (Go
figure)
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-triumphs@autox.team.net
[mailto:owner-triumphs@autox.team.net]On
> Behalf Of Beth and Ken
> Sent: Thursday, January 03, 1980 3:12 AM
> To: Mark Gendron; Fred Thomas; triumphs@autox.team.net
> Cc: spitfires@autox.team.net
> Subject: Re: upholstery shops
>
>
> Mark;
>
> We tend not to be as sensitive to slurs made against some groups as to
those
> made against others. Since we're more attuned to the racism directed at
> Af.rican Americans, consider Fred's remarks as if they were made in the
> dialect of what a racist would use for Black dialect. Maybe now you see
it?
> Not just my feeling...fellow Triumph lover and friend, Michael Le
(Vietnam),
> was rather ticked when he read the original post. Fred's remark was
> insensitive at best.
>
> ken shapiro
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Mark Gendron <mgendron@speakeasy.org>
> To: Beth and Ken <bethken@erols.com>; Fred Thomas <vafred@erols.com>;
> <triumphs@autox.team.net>
> Cc: <spitfires@autox.team.net>
> Sent: Saturday, April 15, 2000 8:23 PM
> Subject: RE: upholstery shops
>
>
> >
> > I don't think Fred's comment was racist. I think he was
> > frustrated about having an expensive piece of upholstery
> > buggered up by someone who hasn't mastered the basics of
> > his trade. I was just pointing out that such unfortunate
> > experiences can happen no matter who you are dealing
> > with.
> >
> > Certainly, such clowns are disproportionately
> > represented by guys who talk like Bruce Springsteen,
> > but I'm sure that's just a statistical anomaly. ;-)
> >
> > -mg
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Beth and Ken [mailto:bethken@erols.com]
> > Sent: Wednesday, January 02, 1980 9:36 PM
> > To: Mark Gendron; Fred Thomas; triumphs@autox.team.net
> > Cc: spitfires@autox.team.net
> > Subject: Re: upholstery shops
> >
> >
> > Except then it would only be regionist as opposed to racist.
> >
> > ken
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: Mark Gendron <mgendron@speakeasy.org>
> > To: Fred Thomas <vafred@erols.com>; <triumphs@autox.team.net>
> > Cc: <spitfires@autox.team.net>
> > Sent: Saturday, April 15, 2000 3:12 PM
> > Subject: RE: upholstery shops
> >
> >
> > >
> > > > From: Fred Thomas
> > > > Subject: upholstery shops
> > > >
> > > > Now he tells me "O-So, No Can Do That Way", no
> > > > understand your english so good, sollie.
> > >
> > > Well, to be fair, I have heard the same thing many
> > > times with a New Jersey accent.
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
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