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Re: State of the Triumphs List

To: Jim <jdeatsc1@rochester.rr.com>
Subject: Re: State of the Triumphs List
From: levilevi@home.com
Date: Wed, 18 Aug 1999 18:44:58 -0600
Cc: Henry Frye <thefryes@iconn.net>, triumphs@autox.team.net, Mark J Bradakis <mjb@cs.utah.edu>
Organization: @Home Network
References: <3.0.32.19990818190230.00731c78@mailhost.iconn.net> <37BB3F37.F4873701@rochester.rr.com>
If you're gonna flame someone at least flame the right person.  Henry
WROTE it and COPIED it to Mark.

Jim wrote:
> 
> I have to put in my two cents worth and if you elect to filter me out that's
> certainly your call Mark.
> I'm a newbie to Triumphs,  yes.  I'm a neophyte and a beginner.  I'm a fair to
> middlin' mechanic and understand mechanical things.
> I enjoy the list and the education I get from it since I'm not an expert as 
>you
> apparently are Mark.  I don't mind sharing my expertise in other areas with
> folks who ask or need the help.
> I like the banter, the intelligent conversation and the fun on here.
> Seems to me like it's not for everyone (I'll defend your right to your opinion
> forever Mark) but those folks tend to do other things.
> Just a newbies thoughts..... just as you shared yours Mark.
> 
> Jim
> 
> Henry Frye wrote:
> 
> > I've been resisting this for quite some time now, but I can't take it any
> > more.
> >
> > I have never made a non-Triumph post to this list is the 4 1/2 years I've
> > been subscribed. This is the first one.
> >
> > I used to contribute often, as this list was an invaluable resource in my
> > Triumph education. However, I now find that the annoyance of the list
> > activity far outweighs than any benefit I'm receiving.
> >
> > This list was created to be a forum of discussion about Triumph cars.
> > Repairing, maintaining, parts sources, car shows, etc. An occasional LBC
> > related joke, but that was it.
> >
> > In years past the list had extremely knowledgable contributors who knew
> > their stuff. A thread was started, all responses were public, and many good
> > responses were had. A synopsis was posted by the person who started the
> > thread. Everybody learned from one person's experience.
> >
> > As the 'signal to noise ratio' grew, many excellent contributors got fed up
> > with the crap, and left the list. Well, that's what I'm seriously
> > considering doing.
> >
> > The only way I've been able to take the day to day onslaught of crap is by
> > using an email program with powerful filtering functions. I've got all you
> > 'no added value' listers going right into my trash can. You know who you
> > are, those people who can't resist commenting on EVERY thread, whether or
> > not you have any direct knowledge of the subject. Listen guys, if you post
> > to the list more than once or twice a week, please cool it. If you are not
> > adding your insight on a Triumph related matter, don't click the send
> > button. Nobody wants to read your smart little wisecrack.
> >
> > The list has grown into a big chat room. It will be to everyone's benefit
> > if the knowledgable contributors don't unsubscribe.
> >
> > The growth of the Internet has been exponential. More and more Triumph
> > enthusiasts are finding this list. That's great. But, will all you people
> > please take a lesson in netiquette, and keep on the topic??? Trust me, most
> > people could care less that your ex-girlfriend's father had an MG way back
> > in the days of afros and bell bottoms.
> >
> > To all those who feel the need to flame me, go ahead. You are most probably
> > being filtered into my trash already. To those of you who want things the
> > way they used to be, maybe we can convince Mark to split the list again -
> > Triumphs and Triumphs-Enthusiast-Chat-Room.
> >
> > Henry 'We don't need no stinkin' nomex' Frye
> > thefryes@iconn.net
> 
> --
> Rawchester, Neu Yawk
> Sptifire MkII  FC68436L  Red, what else?

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