Sorry Carl, i must disagree. I've bought and sold parts as an enthusiast
for 25+ years through Hemmings, several other sources and the net. He took
the $, kept it for 6 months. that is theft, pure and simple. I value the
market that this medium offers, but if scams are allowed to go unchecked we
all lose. One of the wonderful powers of this list is that we of common
interest can work together to common benefit. This is a use of the list to
the common good. I did exactly that 6 months ago with regard to a fellow in
Utah using the MGB classifieds for similar purpose. Integrity does not
succome to "hard times". John
Musson, Carl wrote:
> Let's not start that yet, IF the person is on the list Brad's note
> should be fair warning. If not, then the idea of a local making contact
> is a good alternative. If nothing pans out, then maybe let it be known
> who it is.
>
> Just curious, was it a postal money order or from a major company such
> as American Express? If it was USPS, then it definitely would qualify
> as fraud and have federal repercussions, if one of the others, you might
> call the 1-800 number on your stub to see if there is any assistance
> available through them.
>
> Another thought, you have his address; send him a certified letter
> stating your situation and asking for a response or the parts (sent
> insured, signature required) within a specified amount of time. (2
> weeks or so). You could ask for a separate response by mail when the
> parts are shipped that states the carrier and tracking number.
>
> If you talk to someone about this at the post office or otherwise, and
> they do state that it is fraud, then include that in the letter.
>
> Try not to be accusatory (I know it may be difficult); and be
> understanding of his situation as he stated it.
>
> Good luck
>
> Carl
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Susan and John Roper
> [mailto:vscjohn@iamerica.net]
> Sent: Monday, February 01, 1999 9:16 PM
> To: Brad Kahler
> Cc: triumphs@autox.team.net
> Subject: Re: mail fraud?
>
> Brad, why don't you let us know who he is and help shut
> his scam down? John
>
> Brad Kahler wrote:
>
> > Listers,
> >
> > I would like to find out what constitutes mail fraud.
> I answered an add on
> > the VTR site for a rear fender. After several emails
> and then phone
> > conversations with the gentleman we agreed on a price
> and shipping
> > charges. The owner wanted a money order and I
> complied. The price was
> > $90 so we aren't talking a lot of money here. I just
> don't like the idea of
> > being screwed. I sent the money back in August and
> quite a while went by
> > and no fender. I finally called again around
> christmas time and talked to
> > him I think for the second time and I got the song and
> dance about him
> > having followed on hard times ect ect. Same old song
> and dance.
> > Supposedly he is still going to ship the fender (yea
> right).
> >
> > So does this constitute mail fraud or is it just
> stupidity on my part? What
> > course of action should I take in this. I have his
> address and phone
> > number.
> >
> > Something I had thought of was trying to find a fellow
> lister to stop by this
> > persons place and see if they could if nothing else
> pick up the fender from
> > him. If this seems like a good idea are there any
> listers in the LA and the
> > area code prefix is 714 that would want to tackle this
> problem?
> >
> > I'm open to any suggestions?
> >
> > TIA
> > Brad (Lincoln Nebraska 402-464-1502)
> > My Web Site Http://www.141.com/triumphs (updated
> 12/3/98)
> >
> > 1964 Spitfire4 BFC25720L -- 1973 Spitfire 1500 FM3353U
> > 1962 TR4 CT288L -- 1965 TR4 CT38888LO parts
> car?
> > 1959 TR3A TS41311L -- 1959 TR3A TS53523L parts
> car
> > 1951 Dodge Truck B-3-B-108
>
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