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Subject: Re: [Tigers] Dash Pieces
From: Cars via Tigers <tigers@autox.team.net>
Date: Sun, 18 Sep 2016 18:11:32 -0600
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Tom Hall sells a very nice solid state voltage stabilizer. I would recommend=
 his. I have one in my car. Also, the lights DO NOT run through the stabiliz=
er=20

Lynn

Sent from my mobile device

> On Sep 18, 2016, at 10:06 AM, Larry Mayfield via Tigers <tigers@autox.team=
.net> wrote:
>=20
> Mark, perhaps that is part of my problem, But, my wiring schematic shows t=
he dash instrument lights coming from the panel light switch, which gets its=
 power from the main light switch.  The only thing my schematic shows coming=
 from the instrument regulator are the 10 volts to the in tank fuel level re=
sistance and to the temp sensor resistor.  Nothing going to lights at all. B=
ut the voltage stabilizer may indeed be farkled. When powered on, the fuel g=
age reads full and when off, slowly returns to 0 . The temp gage does not do=
 anything.
> As to dash lights, I have even tried putting voltage on the red with white=
 stripe wire and grounding a bulbs socket to see if that light  works. Nothi=
ng.  =20
> =20
> I will see if I can get the stabilizer out and check its functionality. I s=
uspect that I might be able to do that without removing it though? Like v=3D=
using a voltmeter on the GB wire from the =3Dstabilizer to ground.  Yeah, I=E2=
=80=99ll give that a try.=20
> =20
> Sure will be great to get dash lights and the temp and fuel gages working!=
 Last items on my list. Part of my [problem stems from a long latency betwee=
n when it was apart and now. I do remember that when I replaced the old dash=
 that when I removed a gauge I put the wires back on in the same place so th=
at when I put the new wood in everything, I thought, went back in the same l=
ocation and terminal.
> =20
> Many thanks for the suggestions, new avenues to test!
> =20
> mayf
> =20
> From: CoolVT@aol.com [mailto:CoolVT@aol.com]=20
> Sent: Sunday, September 18, 2016 6:56 AM
> To: drmayf@mayfco.com; tigers@autox.team.net
> Subject: Re: [Tigers] Dash Pieces
> =20
> Mayf,
> Pretty sure the power to the gauges and dash lights come from the voltage s=
tabilizer.  It's a little squarish, metal device about 2"x2" and is screwed t=
o the support column that goes from the dash to the firewall (just to the ri=
ght of the steering column). If you pull the wires off  be sure to label whe=
re each goes because the color coding of the wires will probably be faded. N=
ot sure of a source for the stabilizer if that's the problem.
> Mark L
> =20
> In a message dated 9/18/2016 4:15:19 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, tigers@au=
tox.team.net writes:
> <image001.jpg>
> Ok, I am replacing and adding a couple of dash switches to my car.  The pi=
eces I need are the chrome screw on switch bezel for use on the wood dash.  I=
s there a source for such?  I have the switches but sadly they do not come w=
ith them.=20
> =20
> And I am having the dickens of a time with the instruments: mostly with th=
e dash lights. I know grounds are the typical source or cause of the problem=
s and I have been attacking that as best I can.  Also there does not seem to=
 be power to that circuit, even when I turn the lights on and the panel swit=
ch as well.  I replaced the fuse block and that did help. More voltage. Was p=
retty corroded. New one has a spiffy cover and I applied dielectric grease a=
s well.  The wipers work, the horn honks the heater motor runs, have oil pre=
ssure, but no dash light or fuel level or temp. Also purchased a brake light=
 switch as well. Turn signals work as does the green indicator light on the d=
ash. Head lights ( high and low beams), turn signals and stop light all work=
. Part of the issue is size 100 hands (big) in a size 3 under dash.  So I am=
 going to keep after it.  Was there an wiring change in the MK1 production r=
un? The wiring on my gas and temp gages does not look like the schematic.  I=
f I look at the back side of the fuel gage and temp gage what wire goes wher=
e?
> =20
> Some remote help needed here=E2=80=A6 at least some advice or comment.
> =20
> mayf
> _________________________
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> Worlds Fastest Sunbeam, period.
> 204.913 mph flying mile
> 210.779 mph exit (not top)  speed
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<html><head><meta http-equiv=3D"content-type" content=3D"text/html; charset=3D=
utf-8"></head><body dir=3D"auto"><div><div style=3D"direction: inherit;">Tom=
 Hall sells a very nice solid state voltage stabilizer. I would recommend hi=
s. I have one in my car. Also, the lights DO NOT run through the stabilizer&=
nbsp;</div><div style=3D"direction: inherit;"><br></div><div style=3D"direct=
ion: inherit;">Lynn</div><br>Sent from my mobile device</div><div><br>On Sep=
 18, 2016, at 10:06 AM, Larry Mayfield via Tigers &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:tige=
rs@autox.team.net">tigers@autox.team.net</a>&gt; wrote:<br><br></div><blockq=
uote type=3D"cite"><div><meta http-equiv=3D"Content-Type" content=3D"text/ht=
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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--><div class=3D"WordSection1"><p class=3D"Ms=
oNormal"><span style=3D"color:#1F497D">Mark, perhaps that is part of my prob=
lem, But, my wiring schematic shows the dash instrument lights coming from t=
he panel light switch, which gets its power from the main light switch. &nbs=
p;The only thing my schematic shows coming from the instrument regulator are=
 the 10 volts to the in tank fuel level resistance and to the temp sensor re=
sistor. &nbsp;Nothing going to lights at all. But the voltage stabilizer may=
 indeed be farkled. When powered on, the fuel gage reads full and when off, s=
lowly returns to 0 . The temp gage does not do anything. <o:p></o:p></span><=
/p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:#1F497D">As to dash lights, I=
 have even tried putting voltage on the red with white stripe wire and groun=
ding a bulbs socket to see if that light &nbsp;works. Nothing. &nbsp;&nbsp;<=
o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:#1F497D"><o=
:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:#1F497=
D">I will see if I can get the stabilizer out and check its functionality. I=
 suspect that I might be able to do that without removing it though? Like v=3D=
using a voltmeter on the GB wire from the =3Dstabilizer to ground.&nbsp; Yea=
h, I=E2=80=99ll give that a try.&nbsp; <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3D"Mso=
Normal"><span style=3D"color:#1F497D"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p class=3D=
"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:#1F497D">Sure will be great to get dash lig=
hts and the temp and fuel gages working! Last items on my list. Part of my [=
problem stems from a long latency between when it was apart and now. I do re=
member that when I replaced the old dash that when I removed a gauge I put t=
he wires back on in the same place so that when I put the new wood in everyt=
hing, I thought, went back in the same location and terminal. <o:p></o:p></s=
pan></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:#1F497D"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:=
p></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:#1F497D">Many thank=
s for the suggestions, new avenues to test!<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3D=
"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:#1F497D"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p cla=
ss=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:#1F497D">mayf <o:p></o:p></span></p><p=
 class=3D"MsoNormal"><a name=3D"_MailEndCompose"><span style=3D"color:#1F497=
D"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></a></p><div><div style=3D"border:none;border-top=
:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in"><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><b><s=
pan style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif">From:=
</span></b><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,s=
ans-serif"> <a href=3D"mailto:CoolVT@aol.com";>CoolVT@aol.com</a> [<a href=3D=
"mailto:CoolVT@aol.com";>mailto:CoolVT@aol.com</a>] <br><b>Sent:</b> Sunday, S=
eptember 18, 2016 6:56 AM<br><b>To:</b> <a href=3D"mailto:drmayf@mayfco.com"=
>drmayf@mayfco.com</a>; <a href=3D"mailto:tigers@autox.team.net";>tigers@auto=
x.team.net</a><br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Tigers] Dash Pieces<o:p></o:p></span>=
</p></div></div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><div><p class=3D=
"MsoNormal"><strong><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,sans-serif;=
color:black">Mayf,</span></strong><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Arial&quo=
t;,sans-serif;color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoN=
ormal"><strong><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,sans-serif;color=
:black">Pretty sure the power to the gauges and dash lights come from the vo=
ltage stabilizer.&nbsp; It's a little squarish, metal device about 2"x2" and=
 is screwed to the support column that goes from the dash to the firewall (j=
ust to the right of the steering column). If you pull the wires off&nbsp; be=
 sure to label where each goes because the color coding of the wires will pr=
obably be faded. Not sure of a source for the stabilizer if that's the probl=
em.</span></strong><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,sans-serif;c=
olor:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><strong>=
<span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,sans-serif;color:black">Mark L<=
/span></strong><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,sans-serif;color=
:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D=
"font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,sans-serif;color:black">&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></sp=
an></p></div><div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-family:&qu=
ot;Arial&quot;,sans-serif;color:black">In a message dated 9/18/2016 4:15:19 A=
.M. Eastern Daylight Time, <a href=3D"mailto:tigers@autox.team.net";>tigers@a=
utox.team.net</a> writes:<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><blockquote style=3D"bo=
rder:none;border-left:solid blue 1.5pt;padding:0in 0in 0in 4.0pt;margin-left=
:3.75pt;margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt"><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span s=
tyle=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,sans-serif;color:blac=
k">&lt;image001.jpg&gt;<o:p></o:p></span></p><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal" sty=
le=3D"mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style=3D"col=
or:black">Ok, I am replacing and adding a couple of dash switches to my car.=
&nbsp; The pieces I need are the chrome screw on switch bezel for use on the=
 wood dash.&nbsp; Is there a source for such?&nbsp; I have the switches but s=
adly they do not come with them.&nbsp; <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3D"Mso=
Normal" style=3D"mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span s=
tyle=3D"color:black"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal" styl=
e=3D"mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style=3D"colo=
r:black">And I am having the dickens of a time with the instruments: mostly w=
ith the dash lights. I know grounds are the typical source or cause of the p=
roblems and I have been attacking that as best I can. &nbsp;Also there does n=
ot seem to be power to that circuit, even when I turn the lights on and the p=
anel switch as well.&nbsp; I replaced the fuse block and that did help. More=
 voltage. Was pretty corroded. New one has a spiffy cover and I applied diel=
ectric grease as well. &nbsp;The wipers work, the horn honks the heater moto=
r runs, have oil pressure, but no dash light or fuel level or temp. Also pur=
chased a brake light switch as well. Turn signals work as does the green ind=
icator light on the dash. Head lights ( high and low beams), turn signals an=
d stop light all work. Part of the issue is size 100 hands (big) in a size 3=
 under dash. &nbsp;So I am going to keep after it.&nbsp; Was there an wiring=
 change in the MK1 production run? The wiring on my gas and temp gages does n=
ot look like the schematic. &nbsp;If I look at the back side of the fuel gag=
e and temp gage what wire goes where?<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNo=
rmal" style=3D"mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span sty=
le=3D"color:black"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D=
"mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style=3D"color:bl=
ack">Some remote help needed here=E2=80=A6 at least some advice or comment.<=
o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"mso-margin-top-alt:auto=
;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style=3D"color:black"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></=
span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-=
bottom-alt:auto"><span style=3D"color:black">mayf <o:p></o:p></span></p><p c=
lass=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:au=
to"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-ser=
if;color:black">_________________________<br>drmayf<br>Worlds Fastest Sunbea=
m, period.<br>204.913 mph flying mile<br>210.779 mph exit (not top)&nbsp; sp=
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auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style=3D"color:black"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:=
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