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To: Joel Martin <jmartiniii@yahoo.com> P44xgQJNHgbZ2RlquLs/P0s+KI0w+0UZqaB1PLXT3N/Cvj7wP8MgfyGdoJIaiYI0evEaauxtlZNbFYntLOMp8yJDTBDYSzpDbQ7pWHriWh8tPmDmueCw5Z8G SWmT+DGtvqienoe0PTqI1A==
Subject: Re: [Tigers] Tigers Digest, Vol 8, Issue 208
From: Gary via Tigers <tigers@autox.team.net>
Date: Sun, 18 Sep 2016 18:26:24 -0700
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And they have 3 terminals, 12v, gauges, AND ground (the mount lug).
If no ground (reg not screwed to=20
clean grounded metal, the gauges should read high but still function,=20
since the are running on 12v instead
of 10v.
Gary

Sent from my iPhone

> On Sep 18, 2016, at 2:24 PM, Joel Martin via Tigers <tigers@autox.team.net=
> wrote:
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> The MGB voltage stabilizer is the same one the tiger uses.
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> Joel Martin
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> Subject: Tigers Digest, Vol 8, Issue 208
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>   1. Re: Dash Pieces (CoolVT@aol.com)
>   2. Re: Dash Pieces (Larry Mayfield)
>   3. Re: Dash Pieces (Andy Walker)
> Mayf,
> Pretty sure the power to the gauges and dash lights come from the voltage s=
tabilizer.  It's a little squarish, metal device about 2"x2" and is screwed t=
o the support column that goes from the dash to the firewall (just to the ri=
ght of the steering column). If you pull the wires off  be sure to label whe=
re each goes because the color coding of the wires will probably be faded. N=
ot sure of a source for the stabilizer if that's the problem.
> Mark L
> =20
> In a message dated 9/18/2016 4:15:19 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  tigers@a=
utox.team.net writes:
> Ok, I am replacing and adding a couple of dash switches to my car.  The pi=
eces I need are the chrome screw on switch bezel for use on the wood dash.  I=
s there a source for such?  I have the switches but sadly they do not come w=
ith them.=20
> =20
> And I am having the dickens of a time with the instruments: mostly with th=
e dash lights. I know grounds are the typical source or cause of the problem=
s and I have been attacking that as best I can.  Also there does not seem to=
 be power to that circuit, even when I turn the lights on and the panel swit=
ch as well.  I replaced the fuse block and that did help. More voltage. Was p=
retty corroded. New one has a spiffy cover and I applied dielectric grease a=
s well.  The wipers work, the horn honks the heater motor runs, have oil pre=
ssure, but no dash light or fuel level or temp. Also purchased a brake light=
 switch as well. Turn signals work as does the green indicator light on the d=
ash. Head lights ( high and low beams), turn signals and stop light all work=
. Part of the issue is size 100 hands (big) in a size 3 under dash.  So I am=
 going to keep after it.  Was there an wiring change in the MK1 production r=
un? The wiring on my gas and temp gages does not look like the schematic.  I=
f I look at the back side of the fuel gage and temp gage what wire goes wher=
e?
> =20
> Some remote help needed here=E2=80=A6 at least some advice or comment.
> =20
> mayf
> _________________________
> drmayf
> Worlds Fastest Sunbeam, period.
> 204.913 mph flying mile
> 210.779 mph exit (not top)  speed
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> Mark, perhaps that is part of my problem, But, my wiring schematic shows t=
he dash instrument lights coming from the panel light switch, which gets its=
 power from the main light switch.  The only thing my schematic shows coming=
 from the instrument regulator are the 10 volts to the in tank fuel level re=
sistance and to the temp sensor resistor.  Nothing going to lights at all. B=
ut the voltage stabilizer may indeed be farkled. When powered on, the fuel g=
age reads full and when off, slowly returns to 0 . The temp gage does not do=
 anything.
> As to dash lights, I have even tried putting voltage on the red with white=
 stripe wire and grounding a bulbs socket to see if that light  works. Nothi=
ng.  =20
> =20
> I will see if I can get the stabilizer out and check its functionality. I s=
uspect that I might be able to do that without removing it though? Like v=3D=
using a voltmeter on the GB wire from the =3Dstabilizer to ground.  Yeah, I=E2=
=80=99ll give that a try.=20
> =20
> Sure will be great to get dash lights and the temp and fuel gages working!=
 Last items on my list. Part of my [problem stems from a long latency betwee=
n when it was apart and now. I do remember that when I replaced the old dash=
 that when I removed a gauge I put the wires back on in the same place so th=
at when I put the new wood in everything, I thought, went back in the same l=
ocation and terminal.
> =20
> Many thanks for the suggestions, new avenues to test!
> =20
> mayf
> =20
> From: CoolVT@aol.com [mailto:CoolVT@aol.com]=20
> Sent: Sunday, September 18, 2016 6:56 AM
> To: drmayf@mayfco.com; tigers@autox.team.net
> Subject: Re: [Tigers] Dash Pieces
> =20
> Mayf,
> Pretty sure the power to the gauges and dash lights come from the voltage s=
tabilizer.  It's a little squarish, metal device about 2"x2" and is screwed t=
o the support column that goes from the dash to the firewall (just to the ri=
ght of the steering column). If you pull the wires off  be sure to label whe=
re each goes because the color coding of the wires will probably be faded. N=
ot sure of a source for the stabilizer if that's the problem.
> Mark L
> =20
> In a message dated 9/18/2016 4:15:19 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, tigers@au=
tox.team.net writes:
> <mime-attachment.jpg>
> Ok, I am replacing and adding a couple of dash switches to my car.  The pi=
eces I need are the chrome screw on switch bezel for use on the wood dash.  I=
s there a source for such?  I have the switches but sadly they do not come w=
ith them.=20
> =20
> And I am having the dickens of a time with the instruments: mostly with th=
e dash lights. I know grounds are the typical source or cause of the problem=
s and I have been attacking that as best I can.  Also there does not seem to=
 be power to that circuit, even when I turn the lights on and the panel swit=
ch as well.  I replaced the fuse block and that did help. More voltage. Was p=
retty corroded. New one has a spiffy cover and I applied dielectric grease a=
s well.  The wipers work, the horn honks the heater motor runs, have oil pre=
ssure, but no dash light or fuel level or temp. Also purchased a brake light=
 switch as well. Turn signals work as does the green indicator light on the d=
ash. Head lights ( high and low beams), turn signals and stop light all work=
. Part of the issue is size 100 hands (big) in a size 3 under dash.  So I am=
 going to keep after it.  Was there an wiring change in the MK1 production r=
un? The wiring on my gas and temp gages does not look like the schematic.  I=
f I look at the back side of the fuel gage and temp gage what wire goes wher=
e?
> =20
> Some remote help needed here=E2=80=A6 at least some advice or comment.
> =20
> mayf
> _________________________
> drmayf
> Worlds Fastest Sunbeam, period.
> 204.913 mph flying mile
> 210.779 mph exit (not top)  speed
> =20
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> Mayf:
> =20
> To continue what Mark is saying, if you end up needing one the voltage sta=
bilizer is available from several sources; Rick at SS and Nisonger Instrumen=
ts, for example.
> =20
> Andy Walker
> Edmond, OK
> =20
> From: Tigers [mailto:tigers-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of CoolVT---=
 via Tigers
> Sent: Sunday, September 18, 2016 8:56 AM
> To: drmayf@mayfco.com; tigers@autox.team.net
> Subject: Re: [Tigers] Dash Pieces
> =20
> Mayf,
> Pretty sure the power to the gauges and dash lights come from the voltage s=
tabilizer.  It's a little squarish, metal device about 2"x2" and is screwed t=
o the support column that goes from the dash to the firewall (just to the ri=
ght of the steering column). If you pull the wires off  be sure to label whe=
re each goes because the color coding of the wires will probably be faded. N=
ot sure of a source for the stabilizer if that's the problem.
> Mark L
> =20
> In a message dated 9/18/2016 4:15:19 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, tigers@au=
tox.team.net writes:
> <mime-attachment.jpg>
> Ok, I am replacing and adding a couple of dash switches to my car.  The pi=
eces I need are the chrome screw on switch bezel for use on the wood dash.  I=
s there a source for such?  I have the switches but sadly they do not come w=
ith them.=20
> =20
> And I am having the dickens of a time with the instruments: mostly with th=
e dash lights. I know grounds are the typical source or cause of the problem=
s and I have been attacking that as best I can.  Also there does not seem to=
 be power to that circuit, even when I turn the lights on and the panel swit=
ch as well.  I replaced the fuse block and that did help. More voltage. Was p=
retty corroded. New one has a spiffy cover and I applied dielectric grease a=
s well.  The wipers work, the horn honks the heater motor runs, have oil pre=
ssure, but no dash light or fuel level or temp. Also purchased a brake light=
 switch as well. Turn signals work as does the green indicator light on the d=
ash. Head lights ( high and low beams), turn signals and stop light all work=
. Part of the issue is size 100 hands (big) in a size 3 under dash.  So I am=
 going to keep after it.  Was there an wiring change in the MK1 production r=
un? The wiring on my gas and temp gages does not look like the schematic.  I=
f I look at the back side of the fuel gage and temp gage what wire goes wher=
e?
> =20
> Some remote help needed here=E2=80=A6 at least some advice or comment.
> =20
> mayf
> _________________________
> drmayf
> Worlds Fastest Sunbeam, period.
> 204.913 mph flying mile
> 210.779 mph exit (not top)  speed
> =20
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<html><head><meta http-equiv=3D"content-type" content=3D"text/html; charset=3D=
utf-8"></head><body dir=3D"auto"><div>And they have 3 terminals, 12v, gauges=
, AND ground (the mount lug).</div><div>If no ground (reg not screwed to&nbs=
p;</div><div>clean grounded metal, the gauges should read high but still fun=
ction,&nbsp;</div><div>since the are running on 12v instead</div><div>of 10v=
.</div><div>Gary<br><br>Sent from my iPhone</div><div><br>On Sep 18, 2016, a=
t 2:24 PM, Joel Martin via Tigers &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:tigers@autox.team.ne=
t">tigers@autox.team.net</a>&gt; wrote:<br><br></div><blockquote type=3D"cit=
e"><div><div style=3D"color:#000; background-color:#fff; font-family:garamon=
d, new york, times, serif;font-size:16px"><div id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1474203470=
557_22259"><span id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1474203470557_22258">The MGB voltage sta=
bilizer is the same one the tiger uses.</span></div><div id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_=
1474203470557_22239"><span><br></span></div><div id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_14742034=
70557_22237"><span id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1474203470557_22236">Joel Martin</span=
></div><div class=3D"qtdSeparateBR" id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1474203470557_21925">=
<br><br></div><div class=3D"yahoo_quoted" id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1474203470557_2=
1984" style=3D"display: block;">  <div style=3D"font-family: garamond, new y=
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557_21982"> <div dir=3D"ltr" id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1474203470557_21981"> <font s=
ize=3D"2" face=3D"Arial" id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1474203470557_21980"> <hr size=3D=
"1" id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1474203470557_21979"> <b><span style=3D"font-weight:b=
old;">From:</span></b> "<a href=3D"mailto:tigers-request@autox.team.net";>tig=
ers-request@autox.team.net</a>" &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:tigers-request@autox.t=
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ight: bold;">To:</span></b> <a href=3D"mailto:tigers@autox.team.net";>tigers@=
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ld;">Subject:</span></b> Tigers Digest, Vol 8, Issue 208<br> </font> </div> <=
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ailto:CoolVT@aol.com" id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1474203470557_22177">CoolVT@aol.com=
</a>)<br>&nbsp;  2. Re: Dash Pieces (Larry Mayfield)<br>&nbsp;  3. Re: Dash P=
ieces (Andy Walker)<br><div id=3D"yiv2214856253">
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<div id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1474203470557_22021"><font id=3D"yiv2214856253role_d=
ocument" color=3D"#000000" size=3D"3" face=3D"Arial">
<div id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1474203470557_22178"><strong>Mayf,</strong></div>
<div id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1474203470557_22180"><strong id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1474=
203470557_22179">Pretty sure the power to the gauges and dash lights come fr=
om the=20
voltage stabilizer.&nbsp; It's a little squarish, metal device about 2"x2" a=
nd=20
is screwed to the support column that goes from the dash to the firewall (ju=
st=20
to the right of the steering column). If you pull the wires off&nbsp; be sur=
e to=20
label where each goes because the color coding of the wires will probably be=
=20
faded. Not sure of a source for the stabilizer if that's the=20
problem.</strong></div>
<div><strong>Mark L</strong></div>
<div>&nbsp;</div>
<div id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1474203470557_22020">
<div>In a message dated 9/18/2016 4:15:19 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,=20
<a href=3D"mailto:tigers@autox.team.net";>tigers@autox.team.net</a> writes:</=
div>
<blockquote style=3D"PADDING-LEFT:5px;MARGIN-LEFT:5px;BORDER-LEFT:blue 2px s=
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22017">
  <div class=3D"yiv2214856253MsoNormal">Ok, I am replacing and adding a coup=
le of dash switches to=20
  my car.&nbsp; The pieces I need are the chrome screw on switch bezel for u=
se=20
  on the wood dash.&nbsp; Is there a source for such?&nbsp; I have the switc=
hes=20
  but sadly they do not come with them.&nbsp; </div>=20
  <div class=3D"yiv2214856253MsoNormal"> &nbsp;</div>=20
  <div class=3D"yiv2214856253MsoNormal" id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1474203470557_220=
16">And I am having the dickens of a time with the instruments:=20
  mostly with the dash lights. I know grounds are the typical source or caus=
e of=20
  the problems and I have been attacking that as best I can. &nbsp;Also ther=
e=20
  does not seem to be power to that circuit, even when I turn the lights on a=
nd=20
  the panel switch as well.&nbsp; I replaced the fuse block and that did hel=
p.=20
  More voltage. Was pretty corroded. New one has a spiffy cover and I applie=
d=20
  dielectric grease as well. &nbsp;The wipers work, the horn honks the heate=
r=20
  motor runs, have oil pressure, but no dash light or fuel level or temp. Al=
so=20
  purchased a brake light switch as well. Turn signals work as does the gree=
n=20
  indicator light on the dash. Head lights ( high and low beams), turn signa=
ls=20
  and stop light all work. Part of the issue is size 100 hands (big) in a si=
ze 3=20
  under dash. &nbsp;So I am going to keep after it.&nbsp; Was there an wirin=
g=20
  change in the MK1 production run? The wiring on my gas and temp gages does=
 not=20
  look like the schematic. &nbsp;If I look at the back side of the fuel gage=
 and=20
  temp gage what wire goes where?</div>=20
  <div class=3D"yiv2214856253MsoNormal"> &nbsp;</div>=20
  <div class=3D"yiv2214856253MsoNormal">Some remote help needed here=E2=80=A6=
 at least some advice or=20
  comment.</div>=20
  <div class=3D"yiv2214856253MsoNormal"> &nbsp;</div>=20
  <div class=3D"yiv2214856253MsoNormal">mayf </div>=20
  <div class=3D"yiv2214856253MsoNormal"><span style=3D"FONT-SIZE:11pt;FONT-FA=
MILY:&quot;Calibri&quot;, sans-serif;">_________________________<br>drmayf<b=
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  Fastest Sunbeam, period.<br>204.913 mph flying mile<br>210.779 mph exit (n=
ot=20
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--></style><div><div class=3D"yiv2214856253WordSection1"><div class=3D"yiv22=
14856253MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:#1F497D;">Mark, perhaps that is part=
 of my problem, But, my wiring schematic shows the dash instrument lights co=
ming from the panel light switch, which gets its power from the main light s=
witch. &nbsp;The only thing my schematic shows coming from the instrument re=
gulator are the 10 volts to the in tank fuel level resistance and to the tem=
p sensor resistor. &nbsp;Nothing going to lights at all. But the voltage sta=
bilizer may indeed be farkled. When powered on, the fuel gage reads full and=
 when off, slowly returns to 0 . The temp gage does not do anything. </span>=
</div><div class=3D"yiv2214856253MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:#1F497D;">A=
s to dash lights, I have even tried putting voltage on the red with white st=
ripe wire and grounding a bulbs socket to see if that light &nbsp;works. Not=
hing. &nbsp;&nbsp;</span></div><div class=3D"yiv2214856253MsoNormal"><span s=
tyle=3D"color:#1F497D;"> &nbsp;</span></div><div class=3D"yiv2214856253MsoNo=
rmal"><span style=3D"color:#1F497D;">I will see if I can get the stabilizer o=
ut and check its functionality. I suspect that I might be able to do that wi=
thout removing it though? Like v=3Dusing a voltmeter on the GB wire from the=
 =3Dstabilizer to ground.&nbsp; Yeah, I=E2=80=99ll give that a try.&nbsp; </=
span></div><div class=3D"yiv2214856253MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:#1F497=
D;"> &nbsp;</span></div><div class=3D"yiv2214856253MsoNormal"><span style=3D=
"color:#1F497D;">Sure will be great to get dash lights and the temp and fuel=
 gages working! Last items on my list. Part of my [problem stems from a long=
 latency between when it was apart and now. I do remember that when I replac=
ed the old dash that when I removed a gauge I put the wires back on in the s=
ame place so that when I put the new wood in everything, I thought, went bac=
k in the same location and terminal. </span></div><div class=3D"yiv221485625=
3MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:#1F497D;"> &nbsp;</span></div><div class=3D=
"yiv2214856253MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:#1F497D;">Many thanks for the s=
uggestions, new avenues to test!</span></div><div class=3D"yiv2214856253MsoN=
ormal"><span style=3D"color:#1F497D;"> &nbsp;</span></div><div class=3D"yiv2=
214856253MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:#1F497D;">mayf </span></div><div cl=
ass=3D"yiv2214856253MsoNormal"><a rel=3D"nofollow" name=3D"_MailEndCompose" h=
ref=3D""><span style=3D"color:#1F497D;"> &nbsp;</span></a></div><div><div st=
yle=3D"border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in;=
"><div class=3D"yiv2214856253MsoNormal"><b><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;f=
ont-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;, sans-serif;">From:</span></b><span style=3D"=
font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;, sans-serif;"> <a href=3D"m=
ailto:CoolVT@aol.com">CoolVT@aol.com</a> [<a href=3D"mailto:CoolVT@aol.com";>=
mailto:CoolVT@aol.com</a>] <br><b>Sent:</b> Sunday, September 18, 2016 6:56 A=
M<br><b>To:</b> <a href=3D"mailto:drmayf@mayfco.com";>drmayf@mayfco.com</a>; <=
a href=3D"mailto:tigers@autox.team.net";>tigers@autox.team.net</a><br><b>Subj=
ect:</b> Re: [Tigers] Dash Pieces</span></div></div></div><div class=3D"yiv2=
214856253MsoNormal"> &nbsp;</div><div><div class=3D"yiv2214856253MsoNormal">=
<strong><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;, sans-serif;color:black=
;">Mayf,</span></strong><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;, sans-s=
erif;color:black;"></span></div></div><div><div class=3D"yiv2214856253MsoNor=
mal"><strong><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;, sans-serif;color:=
black;">Pretty sure the power to the gauges and dash lights come from the vo=
ltage stabilizer.&nbsp; It's a little squarish, metal device about 2"x2" and=
 is screwed to the support column that goes from the dash to the firewall (j=
ust to the right of the steering column). If you pull the wires off&nbsp; be=
 sure to label where each goes because the color coding of the wires will pr=
obably be faded. Not sure of a source for the stabilizer if that's the probl=
em.</span></strong><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;, sans-serif;=
color:black;"></span></div></div><div><div class=3D"yiv2214856253MsoNormal">=
<strong><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;, sans-serif;color:black=
;">Mark L</span></strong><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;, sans-=
serif;color:black;"></span></div></div><div><div class=3D"yiv2214856253MsoNo=
rmal"><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;, sans-serif;color:black;"=
>&nbsp;</span></div></div><div><div><div class=3D"yiv2214856253MsoNormal"><s=
pan style=3D"font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;, sans-serif;color:black;">In a me=
ssage dated 9/18/2016 4:15:19 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, <a rel=3D"nofollow=
" ymailto=3D"mailto:tigers@autox.team.net"; target=3D"_blank" href=3D"mailto:=
tigers@autox.team.net">tigers@autox.team.net</a> writes:</span></div></div><=
blockquote style=3D"border:none;border-left:solid blue 1.5pt;padding:0in 0in=
 0in 4.0pt;margin-left:3.75pt;margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt;"><div cl=
ass=3D"yiv2214856253MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&=
quot;Arial&quot;, sans-serif;color:black;">&lt;mime-attachment.jpg&gt;</span=
></div><div><div class=3D"yiv2214856253MsoNormal" style=3D""><span style=3D"=
color:black;">Ok, I am replacing and adding a couple of dash switches to my c=
ar.&nbsp; The pieces I need are the chrome screw on switch bezel for use on t=
he wood dash.&nbsp; Is there a source for such?&nbsp; I have the switches bu=
t sadly they do not come with them.&nbsp; </span></div><div class=3D"yiv2214=
856253MsoNormal" style=3D""><span style=3D"color:black;"> &nbsp;</span></div=
><div class=3D"yiv2214856253MsoNormal" style=3D""><span style=3D"color:black=
;">And I am having the dickens of a time with the instruments: mostly with t=
he dash lights. I know grounds are the typical source or cause of the proble=
ms and I have been attacking that as best I can. &nbsp;Also there does not s=
eem to be power to that circuit, even when I turn the lights on and the pane=
l switch as well.&nbsp; I replaced the fuse block and that did help. More vo=
ltage. Was pretty corroded. New one has a spiffy cover and I applied dielect=
ric grease as well. &nbsp;The wipers work, the horn honks the heater motor r=
uns, have oil pressure, but no dash light or fuel level or temp. Also purcha=
sed a brake light switch as well. Turn signals work as does the green indica=
tor light on the dash. Head lights ( high and low beams), turn signals and s=
top light all work. Part of the issue is size 100 hands (big) in a size 3 un=
der dash. &nbsp;So I am going to keep after it.&nbsp; Was there an wiring ch=
ange in the MK1 production run? The wiring on my gas and temp gages does not=
 look like the schematic. &nbsp;If I look at the back side of the fuel gage a=
nd temp gage what wire goes where?</span></div><div class=3D"yiv2214856253Ms=
oNormal" style=3D""><span style=3D"color:black;"> &nbsp;</span></div><div cl=
ass=3D"yiv2214856253MsoNormal" style=3D""><span style=3D"color:black;">Some r=
emote help needed here=E2=80=A6 at least some advice or comment.</span></div=
><div class=3D"yiv2214856253MsoNormal" style=3D""><span style=3D"color:black=
;"> &nbsp;</span></div><div class=3D"yiv2214856253MsoNormal" style=3D""><spa=
n style=3D"color:black;">mayf </span></div><div class=3D"yiv2214856253MsoNor=
mal" style=3D""><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&qu=
ot;, sans-serif;color:black;">_________________________<br>drmayf<br>Worlds =
Fastest Sunbeam, period.<br>204.913 mph flying mile<br>210.779 mph exit (not=
 top)&nbsp; speed</span></div><div class=3D"yiv2214856253MsoNormal" style=3D=
""><span style=3D"color:black;"> &nbsp;</span></div></div><div class=3D"yiv2=
214856253MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-bottom:12.0pt;"><span style=3D"font-size=
:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;, sans-serif;color:black;"><br><br>____=
___________________________________________<br><br><a rel=3D"nofollow" ymail=
to=3D"mailto:tigers@autox.team.net"; target=3D"_blank" href=3D"mailto:tigers@=
autox.team.net">tigers@autox.team.net</a><br><br>Donate: <a rel=3D"nofollow"=
 target=3D"_blank" href=3D"http://www.team.net/donate.html";>http://www.team.=
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"http://www.team.net/archive";>http://www.team.net/archive</a><br>Forums: <a r=
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/www.team.net/forums</a><br>Unsubscribe: <a rel=3D"nofollow" target=3D"_blan=
k" href=3D"http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/coolvt@aol.com";>http=
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pan style=3D"font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;, sans-serif;color:black;"></span>=
</div></blockquote></div></div></div></div><div id=3D"yiv2214856253"><style>=
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--></style><div><div class=3D"yiv2214856253WordSection1"><div class=3D"yiv22=
14856253MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri=
&quot;, sans-serif;color:#1F497D;">Mayf:</span></div><div class=3D"yiv221485=
6253MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quo=
t;, sans-serif;color:#1F497D;"> &nbsp;</span></div><div class=3D"yiv22148562=
53MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;=
, sans-serif;color:#1F497D;">To continue what Mark is saying, if you end up n=
eeding one the voltage stabilizer is available from several sources; Rick at=
 SS and Nisonger Instruments, for example.</span></div><div class=3D"yiv2214=
856253MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&q=
uot;, sans-serif;color:#1F497D;"> &nbsp;</span></div><div class=3D"yiv221485=
6253MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quo=
t;, sans-serif;color:#1F497D;">Andy Walker</span></div><div class=3D"yiv2214=
856253MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&q=
uot;, sans-serif;color:#1F497D;">Edmond, OK</span></div><div class=3D"yiv221=
4856253MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&=
quot;, sans-serif;color:#1F497D;"> &nbsp;</span></div><div><div style=3D"bor=
der:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in;"><div cla=
ss=3D"yiv2214856253MsoNormal"><b><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family=
:&quot;Calibri&quot;, sans-serif;">From:</span></b><span style=3D"font-size:=
11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;, sans-serif;"> Tigers [<a href=3D"mai=
lto:tigers-bounces@autox.team.net">mailto:tigers-bounces@autox.team.net</a>]=
 <b>On Behalf Of </b>CoolVT--- via Tigers<br><b>Sent:</b> Sunday, September 1=
8, 2016 8:56 AM<br><b>To:</b> <a href=3D"mailto:drmayf@mayfco.com";>drmayf@ma=
yfco.com</a>; <a href=3D"mailto:tigers@autox.team.net";>tigers@autox.team.net=
</a><br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Tigers] Dash Pieces</span></div></div></div><di=
v class=3D"yiv2214856253MsoNormal"> &nbsp;</div><div><div class=3D"yiv221485=
6253MsoNormal"><strong><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;, sans-se=
rif;color:black;">Mayf,</span></strong><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Aria=
l&quot;, sans-serif;color:black;"></span></div></div><div><div class=3D"yiv2=
214856253MsoNormal"><strong><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;, sa=
ns-serif;color:black;">Pretty sure the power to the gauges and dash lights c=
ome from the voltage stabilizer.&nbsp; It's a little squarish, metal device a=
bout 2"x2" and is screwed to the support column that goes from the dash to t=
he firewall (just to the right of the steering column). If you pull the wire=
s off&nbsp; be sure to label where each goes because the color coding of the=
 wires will probably be faded. Not sure of a source for the stabilizer if th=
at's the problem.</span></strong><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Arial&quot=
;, sans-serif;color:black;"></span></div></div><div><div class=3D"yiv2214856=
253MsoNormal"><strong><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;, sans-ser=
if;color:black;">Mark L</span></strong><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Aria=
l&quot;, sans-serif;color:black;"></span></div></div><div><div class=3D"yiv2=
214856253MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;, sans-serif=
;color:black;">&nbsp;</span></div></div><div><div><div class=3D"yiv221485625=
3MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;, sans-serif;color:b=
lack;">In a message dated 9/18/2016 4:15:19 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, <a r=
el=3D"nofollow" ymailto=3D"mailto:tigers@autox.team.net"; target=3D"_blank" h=
ref=3D"mailto:tigers@autox.team.net";>tigers@autox.team.net</a> writes:</span=
></div></div><blockquote style=3D"border:none;border-left:solid blue 1.5pt;p=
adding:0in 0in 0in 4.0pt;margin-left:3.75pt;margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5=
.0pt;"><div class=3D"yiv2214856253MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt=
;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;, sans-serif;color:black;">&lt;mime-attachment=
.jpg&gt;</span></div><div><div class=3D"yiv2214856253MsoNormal" style=3D""><=
span style=3D"color:black;">Ok, I am replacing and adding a couple of dash s=
witches to my car.&nbsp; The pieces I need are the chrome screw on switch be=
zel for use on the wood dash.&nbsp; Is there a source for such?&nbsp; I have=
 the switches but sadly they do not come with them.&nbsp; </span></div><div c=
lass=3D"yiv2214856253MsoNormal" style=3D""><span style=3D"color:black;"> &nb=
sp;</span></div><div class=3D"yiv2214856253MsoNormal" style=3D""><span style=
=3D"color:black;">And I am having the dickens of a time with the instruments=
: mostly with the dash lights. I know grounds are the typical source or caus=
e of the problems and I have been attacking that as best I can. &nbsp;Also t=
here does not seem to be power to that circuit, even when I turn the lights o=
n and the panel switch as well.&nbsp; I replaced the fuse block and that did=
 help. More voltage. Was pretty corroded. New one has a spiffy cover and I a=
pplied dielectric grease as well. &nbsp;The wipers work, the horn honks the h=
eater motor runs, have oil pressure, but no dash light or fuel level or temp=
. Also purchased a brake light switch as well. Turn signals work as does the=
 green indicator light on the dash. Head lights ( high and low beams), turn s=
ignals and stop light all work. Part of the issue is size 100 hands (big) in=
 a size 3 under dash. &nbsp;So I am going to keep after it.&nbsp; Was there a=
n wiring change in the MK1 production run? The wiring on my gas and temp gag=
es does not look like the schematic. &nbsp;If I look at the back side of the=
 fuel gage and temp gage what wire goes where?</span></div><div class=3D"yiv=
2214856253MsoNormal" style=3D""><span style=3D"color:black;"> &nbsp;</span><=
/div><div class=3D"yiv2214856253MsoNormal" style=3D""><span style=3D"color:b=
lack;">Some remote help needed here=E2=80=A6 at least some advice or comment=
.</span></div><div class=3D"yiv2214856253MsoNormal" style=3D""><span style=3D=
"color:black;"> &nbsp;</span></div><div class=3D"yiv2214856253MsoNormal" sty=
le=3D""><span style=3D"color:black;">mayf </span></div><div class=3D"yiv2214=
856253MsoNormal" style=3D""><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quo=
t;Calibri&quot;, sans-serif;color:black;">_________________________<br>drmay=
f<br>Worlds Fastest Sunbeam, period.<br>204.913 mph flying mile<br>210.779 m=
ph exit (not top)&nbsp; speed</span></div><div class=3D"yiv2214856253MsoNorm=
al" style=3D""><span style=3D"color:black;"> &nbsp;</span></div></div><div c=
lass=3D"yiv2214856253MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-bottom:12.0pt;"><span style=3D=
"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;, sans-serif;color:black;"><b=
r><br>_______________________________________________<br><br><a rel=3D"nofol=
low" ymailto=3D"mailto:tigers@autox.team.net"; target=3D"_blank" href=3D"mail=
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