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Re: [Healeys] BN2 Brake Problem

To: Healeys <healeys@autox.team.net>, Bob Spidell <bspidell@comcast.net>
Subject: Re: [Healeys] BN2 Brake Problem
From: WILLIAM B LAWRENCE via Healeys <healeys@autox.team.net>
Date: Sat, 24 Apr 2021 04:06:56 +0000
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The problem with the double leading edge brakes on the 100s and 100-6s is t=
hat the bleeder screw is at a low point in the system so it takes a little =
extra effort expel any entrained air. You probably got a pretty good slug w=
hen you changed the wheel cylinder. Probably keep bleeding that wheel and u=
se various techniques until you find the one that actually moves the air ou=
t of the bleeder.

Bill Lawrence
BN1 #554
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From: Healeys <healeys-bounces@autox.team.net> on behalf of Bob Spidell via=
 Healeys <healeys@autox.team.net>
Sent: Saturday, April 24, 2021 3:04 AM
To: Healeys <healeys@autox.team.net>
Subject: [Healeys] BN2 Brake Problem

Listers,

I have a problem with my BN2's brakes that is driving (heh) me up the
wall. Here's what I've done:

- new shoes and cylinders in both rear wheels
- one new cylinder in one front wheel (there's a total of 4 in the 2
front wheels)
- new master cylinder

I hadn't touched the M/C, so after all the installs I just pressure bled
as I usually do (this has worked well on my BJ8 for decades and a couple
times for the BN2). At first, I got decent pedal then, after a period of
time I lost it; the pedal would go to the floor with only slight
pressure (probably from the return springs). Thinking it could only be
the M/C, I sprung for a new TRW brand M/C but after installing it and
bleeding I got the same results. I've put 2 full quarts of Castrol's
finest 'synthetic' DoT4 through the system and tried vacuum bleeding and
old-fashioned 'pump and hold' method; same result for all methods. I'm
not losing fluid as far as I can tell, and the pedal will pump up a bit
with a half-dozen or so strokes, but will go back to the floor after
some time.

Any and all ideas and suggestions accepted and welcomed.

TIA,
Bob
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The problem with the double leading edge brakes on the 100s and 100-6s is t=
hat the bleeder screw is at a low point in the system so it takes a little =
extra effort expel any entrained air. You probably got a pretty good slug w=
hen you changed the wheel cylinder.
 Probably keep bleeding that wheel and use various techniques until you fin=
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Bill Lawrence</div>
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BN1 #554</div>
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ounces@autox.team.net&gt; on behalf of Bob Spidell via Healeys &lt;healeys@=
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<b>To:</b> Healeys &lt;healeys@autox.team.net&gt;<br>
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<div class=3D"PlainText">Listers,<br>
<br>
I have a problem with my BN2's brakes that is driving (heh) me up the <br>
wall. Here's what I've done:<br>
<br>
- new shoes and cylinders in both rear wheels<br>
- one new cylinder in one front wheel (there's a total of 4 in the 2 <br>
front wheels)<br>
- new master cylinder<br>
<br>
I hadn't touched the M/C, so after all the installs I just pressure bled <b=
r>
as I usually do (this has worked well on my BJ8 for decades and a couple <b=
r>
times for the BN2). At first, I got decent pedal then, after a period of <b=
r>
time I lost it; the pedal would go to the floor with only slight <br>
pressure (probably from the return springs). Thinking it could only be <br>
the M/C, I sprung for a new TRW brand M/C but after installing it and <br>
bleeding I got the same results. I've put 2 full quarts of Castrol's <br>
finest 'synthetic' DoT4 through the system and tried vacuum bleeding and <b=
r>
old-fashioned 'pump and hold' method; same result for all methods. I'm <br>
not losing fluid as far as I can tell, and the pedal will pump up a bit <br=
>
with a half-dozen or so strokes, but will go back to the floor after <br>
some time.<br>
<br>
Any and all ideas and suggestions accepted and welcomed.<br>
<br>
TIA,<br>
Bob<br>
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