Re: [Fot] Solid Six?

[Duncan Charlton via Fot <fot@autox.team.net>]

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Bob, I usually drive my race cars up onto wood ramps to allow the arms to=
 swing under. =C2=A0They=E2=80=99re made of doubled 2X8s with staggered 4=
5=CB=9A angles at one end (so I can drive up the first 1-1/2=E2=80=9D and=
 have the tire completely on the board already before going up the second=
 1-1/2=E2=80=9D rise) and scraps of inner tube stapled to the bottom to k=
eep them from sliding on the floor as I drive on.

Duncan
On Dec 31, 2019, 11:36 AM -0600, Bob Kramer via =46ot <fot=40autox.team.n=
et>, wrote:
> Got all the power stuff covered. With 40 foot depth I choose=C2=A0to ru=
n most everything down the middle at 20'.=C2=A0 The welder=C2=A0and compr=
essor 220V are on the opposite=C2=A0wall from the breaker box..=C2=A0 I h=
ave another tip that I can pass on from Robert MacKenzie,=C2=A0 I plan on=
 a free floor lift and getting the arms under teh car is always a pain.=C2=
=A0 Robert puts his car on a set of dollies first. makes the arm swing a =
breeze.
> Bob Kramer
>
>
> > On Tue, Dec 31, 2019 at 11:01 AM Bob Bownes -Seiri <bownes=40seiri.co=
m> wrote:
> > >
> > > It=E2=80=99s overkill, but I have an electrical reel and air hose r=
eel over each bay. It comes in terribly handy.
> > >
> > > Don=E2=80=99t know about the planned lift, but mine is 220VAC, so d=
on=E2=80=99t forget you may need that.
> > >
> > > On that note, I=E2=80=99ve been accumulating Real =C2=A0Machine Too=
ls of late that all need 220 3phase. So 220 drops are going in around the=
 shop for those and the welder. I find it easier to move the welder to th=
e work than the work to the welder sometimes.
> > >
> > > > On Dec 31, 2019, at 11:54, Bob Kramer via =46ot <fot=40autox.team=
.net> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Those are great ideas. I used the RapidAir tubing system and I ha=
ve an overhead run 20' in.=C2=A0 Dropping a line down and mounting it on =
both posts of the lifts would be a simple upgrade.. I did think ahead and=
 wired in an extra 30 amp circuit up top. I was planning on using a retra=
ctable electric hose reel but dropping an outlet to the posts might be a =
better plan.
> > > >
> > > > Bob Kramer
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > On Tue, Dec 31, 2019 at 8:52 AM Bill Tobin via =46ot <fot=40aut=
ox.team.net> wrote:
> > > > > > Bob put the lift in the easiest accessible best lighted spot =
in the shop. Also run air and power outlets to the lift; this eliminates =
stringing hoses and cords across the floor. Put a workbench close to the =
lift area; maybe on wheels. You can also never have too much shelving. Or=
 lighting especially as we age and eyesight isn't quite what is used to b=
e=21 And maybe have a small room sectioned off for your lathe milling mac=
hine and maybe surface grinder.
> > > > > > While you're at it maybe add another 10 or 20 feet to the ori=
ginal specs=21
> > > > > > Ask me how I learned all this stuff=21
> > > > > > Happy New Year everyone.
> > > > > > Cheers Bill
> > > > > > On 12/31/2019 8:46 AM, Bob Kramer via =46ot wrote:
> > > > > > > Is that a 50 x 30=3F
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > I built a 30 X 40 and it took the better part of a year to =
get it outfitted between other stuff. Shelving, electrical, lighting, wor=
k benches=C2=A0and air lines. With a 12' front door on a 30' front, I sti=
ll can't decide where to put a lift.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Bob Kramer
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > On Mon, Dec 30, 2019 at 12:04 PM John Styduhar via =46ot =
<fot=40autox.team.net> wrote:
> > > > > > > > > I recently picked up an early TR4 frame from a fellow W=
PTA club member that is in decent shape and have all the necessary bits t=
o build a wide track for my TR3.=C2=A0 This will be my next project after=
 outfitting my new headquarters.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > On Mon, Dec 30, 2019 at 10:57 AM Mark J Bradakis via =
=46ot <fot=40autox.team.net> wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > This TR3 Beta got me thinking.=C2=A0 The TR4 was ba=
sed on a modified TR3
> > > > > > > > > > > frame.=C2=A0 The TR4A frame was a totally new desig=
n, and adaptable to either
> > > > > > > > > > > the IRS or solid axle rear suspension.=C2=A0 The TR=
6 used basically the same
> > > > > > > > > > > frame.=C2=A0 Are there solid axle TR6s out there=3F=

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<div dir=3D=22auto=22>Bob, I usually drive my race cars up onto wood ramp=
s to allow the arms to swing under. &=23160;They=E2=80=99re made of doubl=
ed 2X8s with staggered 45=CB=9A angles at one end (so I can drive up the =
first 1-1/2=E2=80=9D and have the tire completely on the board already be=
fore going up the second 1-1/2=E2=80=9D rise) and scraps of inner tube st=
apled to the bottom to keep them from sliding on the floor as I drive on.=
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<div name=3D=22messageSignatureSection=22><br />
<div class=3D=22match=46ont=22>Duncan</div>
</div>
<div name=3D=22messageReplySection=22>On Dec 31, 2019, 11:36 AM -0600, Bo=
b Kramer via =46ot &lt;fot=40autox.team.net&gt;, wrote:<br />
<blockquote type=3D=22cite=22 class=3D=22spark=5Fquote=22 style=3D=22marg=
in: 5px 5px; padding-left: 10px; border-left: thin solid =231abc9c;=22>
<div dir=3D=22ltr=22>Got all the power stuff covered. With 40 foot depth =
I choose&=23160;to run most everything down the middle at 20'.&=23160; Th=
e welder&=23160;and compressor 220V are on the opposite&=23160;wall from =
the breaker box..&=23160; I have another tip that I can pass on from Robe=
rt MacKenzie,&=23160; I plan on a free floor lift and getting the arms un=
der teh car is always a pain.&=23160; Robert puts his car on a set of dol=
lies first. makes the arm swing a breeze.<br clear=3D=22all=22 />
<div>
<div dir=3D=22ltr=22 class=3D=22gmail=5Fsignature=22 data-smartmail=3D=22=
gmail=5Fsignature=22>
<div dir=3D=22ltr=22>Bob Kramer</div>
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</div>
<br /></div>
<br />
<div class=3D=22gmail=5Fquote=22>
<div dir=3D=22ltr=22 class=3D=22gmail=5Fattr=22>On Tue, Dec 31, 2019 at 1=
1:01 AM Bob Bownes -Seiri &lt;<a href=3D=22mailto:bownes=40seiri.com=22>b=
ownes=40seiri.com</a>&gt; wrote:<br /></div>
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5px 5px; padding-left: 10px; border-left: thin solid =23e67e22;=22>
<div dir=3D=22auto=22>
<div dir=3D=22ltr=22><br /></div>
<div dir=3D=22ltr=22>It=E2=80=99s overkill, but I have an electrical reel=
 and air hose reel over each bay. It comes in terribly handy.&=23160;</di=
v>
<div dir=3D=22ltr=22><br /></div>
<div dir=3D=22ltr=22>Don=E2=80=99t know about the planned lift, but mine =
is 220VAC, so don=E2=80=99t forget you may need that.&=23160;</div>
<div dir=3D=22ltr=22><br /></div>
<div dir=3D=22ltr=22>On that note, I=E2=80=99ve been accumulating Real &=23=
160;Machine Tools of late that all need 220 3phase. So 220 drops are goin=
g in around the shop for those and the welder. I find it easier to move t=
he welder to the work than the work to the welder sometimes.&=23160;</div=
>
<div dir=3D=22ltr=22><br />
<blockquote type=3D=22cite=22 class=3D=22spark=5Fquote=22 style=3D=22marg=
in: 5px 5px; padding-left: 10px; border-left: thin solid =233498db;=22>On=
 Dec 31, 2019, at 11:54, Bob Kramer via =46ot &lt;<a href=3D=22mailto:fot=
=40autox.team.net=22 target=3D=22=5Fblank=22>fot=40autox.team.net</a>&gt;=
 wrote:<br />
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in: 5px 5px; padding-left: 10px; border-left: thin solid =233498db;=22>
<div dir=3D=22ltr=22>=EF=BB=BF
<div dir=3D=22ltr=22>Those are great ideas. I used the RapidAir tubing sy=
stem and I have an overhead run 20' in.&=23160; Dropping a line down and =
mounting it on both posts of the lifts would be a simple upgrade.. I did =
think ahead and wired in an extra 30 amp circuit up top. I was planning o=
n using a retractable electric hose reel but dropping an outlet to the po=
sts might be a better plan.&=23160;
<div><br /></div>
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<div dir=3D=22ltr=22>Bob Kramer</div>
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<div dir=3D=22ltr=22 class=3D=22gmail=5Fattr=22>On Tue, Dec 31, 2019 at 8=
:52 AM Bill Tobin via =46ot &lt;<a href=3D=22mailto:fot=40autox.team.net=22=
 target=3D=22=5Fblank=22>fot=40autox.team.net</a>&gt; wrote:<br /></div>
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<p>Bob put the lift in the easiest accessible best lighted spot in the sh=
op. Also run air and power outlets to the lift; this eliminates stringing=
 hoses and cords across the floor. Put a workbench close to the lift area=
; maybe on wheels. You can also never have too much shelving. Or lighting=
 especially as we age and eyesight isn't quite what is used to be=21 And =
maybe have a small room sectioned off for your lathe milling machine and =
maybe surface grinder.</p>
<p>While you're at it maybe add another 10 or 20 feet to the original spe=
cs=21<br /></p>
<p>Ask me how I learned all this stuff=21</p>
<p>Happy New Year everyone.</p>
<p>Cheers Bill<br /></p>
<div>On 12/31/2019 8:46 AM, Bob Kramer via =46ot wrote:<br /></div>
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in: 5px 5px; padding-left: 10px; border-left: thin solid =2334495e;=22>
<div dir=3D=22ltr=22>Is that a 50 x 30=3F&=23160;
<div><br /></div>
<div>I built a 30 X 40 and it took the better part of a year to get it ou=
tfitted between other stuff. Shelving, electrical, lighting, work benches=
&=23160;and air lines. With a 12' front door on a 30' front, I still can'=
t decide where to put a lift.</div>
<div><br clear=3D=22all=22 />
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<div dir=3D=22ltr=22>Bob Kramer</div>
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<div dir=3D=22ltr=22 class=3D=22gmail=5Fattr=22>On Mon, Dec 30, 2019 at 1=
2:04 PM John Styduhar via =46ot &lt;<a href=3D=22mailto:fot=40autox.team.=
net=22 target=3D=22=5Fblank=22>fot=40autox.team.net</a>&gt; wrote:<br /><=
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<div class=3D=22gmail=5Fdefault=22 style=3D=22font-size:small=22>I recent=
ly picked up an early TR4 frame from a fellow WPTA club member that is in=
 decent shape and have all the necessary bits to build a wide track for m=
y TR3.&=23160; This will be my next project after outfitting my new headq=
uarters.&=23160;</div>
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<div dir=3D=22ltr=22 class=3D=22gmail=5Fattr=22>On Mon, Dec 30, 2019 at 1=
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m.net=22 target=3D=22=5Fblank=22>fot=40autox.team.net</a>&gt; wrote:<br /=
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R3 Beta got me thinking.&=23160; The TR4 was based on a modified TR3<br /=
>
frame.&=23160; The TR4A frame was a totally new design, and adaptable to =
either<br />
the IRS or solid axle rear suspension.&=23160; The TR6 used basically the=
 same<br />
frame.&=23160; Are there solid axle TR6s out there=3F<br />
<br />
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