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Ditto for issues getting the lift swing arms under a low car.=C2=A0 I usua=
lly run mine up on some square patio stones which takes a lot less time tha=
n getting it on the 4 dollies first.=C2=A0 Its worked on some pretty low co=
mpetition cars.
On Tuesday, December 31, 2019, 12:36:36 PM EST, Bob Kramer via Fot <fot=
@autox.team.net> wrote: =20
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Got all the power stuff covered. With 40 foot depth I choose=C2=A0to run m=
ost everything down the middle at 20'.=C2=A0 The welder=C2=A0and compressor=
220V are on the opposite=C2=A0wall from the breaker box..=C2=A0 I have ano=
ther tip that I can pass on from Robert MacKenzie,=C2=A0 I plan on a free f=
loor lift and getting the arms under teh car is always a pain.=C2=A0 Robert=
puts his car on a set of dollies first. makes the arm swing a breeze.
Bob Kramer
On Tue, Dec 31, 2019 at 11:01 AM Bob Bownes -Seiri <bownes@seiri.com> wrote=
:
It=E2=80=99s overkill, but I have an electrical reel and air hose reel over=
each bay. It comes in terribly handy.=C2=A0
Don=E2=80=99t know about the planned lift, but mine is 220VAC, so don=E2=80=
=99t forget you may need that.=C2=A0
On that note, I=E2=80=99ve been accumulating Real =C2=A0Machine Tools of la=
te that all need 220 3phase. So 220 drops are going in around the shop for =
those and the welder. I find it easier to move the welder to the work than =
the work to the welder sometimes.=C2=A0
On Dec 31, 2019, at 11:54, Bob Kramer via Fot <fot@autox.team.net> wrote:
=EF=BB=BFThose are great ideas. I used the RapidAir tubing system and I hav=
e an overhead run 20' in.=C2=A0 Dropping a line down and mounting it on bot=
h posts of the lifts would be a simple upgrade.. I did think ahead and wire=
d in an extra 30 amp circuit up top. I was planning on using a retractable =
electric hose reel but dropping an outlet to the posts might be a better pl=
an.=C2=A0
Bob Kramer
On Tue, Dec 31, 2019 at 8:52 AM Bill Tobin via Fot <fot@autox.team.net> wro=
te:
=20
Bob put the lift in the easiest accessible best lighted spot in the shop. A=
lso run air and power outlets to the lift; this eliminates stringing hoses =
and cords across the floor. Put a workbench close to the lift area; maybe o=
n wheels. You can also never have too much shelving. Or lighting especially=
as we age and eyesight isn't quite what is used to be! And maybe have a sm=
all room sectioned off for your lathe milling machine and maybe surface gri=
nder.
=20
While you're at it maybe add another 10 or 20 feet to the original specs!
=20
=20
Ask me how I learned all this stuff!
=20
Happy New Year everyone.
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Cheers Bill
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On 12/31/2019 8:46 AM, Bob Kramer via Fot wrote:
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Is that a 50 x 30?=C2=A0=20
I built a 30 X 40 and it took the better part of a year to get it outfitt=
ed between other stuff. Shelving, electrical, lighting, work benches=C2=A0a=
nd air lines. With a 12' front door on a 30' front, I still can't decide wh=
ere to put a lift.=20
Bob Kramer =20
=20
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t> wrote:
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I recently picked up an early TR4 frame from a fellow WPTA club member th=
at is in decent shape and have all the necessary bits to build a wide track=
for my TR3.=C2=A0 This will be my next project after outfitting my new hea=
dquarters.=C2=A0 =20
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This TR3 Beta got me thinking.=C2=A0 The TR4 was based on a modified TR3=20
frame.=C2=A0 The TR4A frame was a totally new design, and adaptable to eit=
her=20
the IRS or solid axle rear suspension.=C2=A0 The TR6 used basically the sa=
me=20
frame.=C2=A0 Are there solid axle TR6s out there?
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" data-setdir=3D"false">Ditto for issues getting the lift swing arms under =
a low car. I usually run mine up on some square patio stones which ta=
kes a lot less time than getting it on the 4 dollies first. Its worke=
d on some pretty low competition cars.</div><div class=3D"ydpf93620c0yahoo-=
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On Tuesday, December 31, 2019, 12:36:36 PM EST, Bob Kra=
mer via Fot <fot@autox.team.net> wrote:
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<div><br></div>
<div><div id=3D"ydpd9b0967ayiv6996304770"><div><div dir=3D"=
ltr">Got all the power stuff covered. With 40 foot depth I choose to r=
un most everything down the middle at 20'. The welder and compre=
ssor 220V are on the opposite wall from the breaker box.. I have=
another tip that I can pass on from Robert MacKenzie, I plan on a fr=
ee floor lift and getting the arms under teh car is always a pain. Ro=
bert puts his car on a set of dollies first. makes the arm swing a breeze.<=
br clear=3D"all"><div><div class=3D"ydpd9b0967ayiv6996304770gmail_signature=
" dir=3D"ltr"><div dir=3D"ltr">Bob Kramer</div></div></div><br clear=3D"non=
e"></div><br clear=3D"none"><div class=3D"ydpd9b0967ayiv6996304770yqt561307=
2732" id=3D"ydpd9b0967ayiv6996304770yqt26640"><div class=3D"ydpd9b0967ayiv6=
996304770gmail_quote"><div class=3D"ydpd9b0967ayiv6996304770gmail_attr" dir=
=3D"ltr">On Tue, Dec 31, 2019 at 11:01 AM Bob Bownes -Seiri <<a href=3D"=
mailto:bownes@seiri.com"; target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"nofollow" shape=3D"rect">=
bownes@seiri.com</a>> wrote:<br clear=3D"none"></div><blockquote class=
=3D"ydpd9b0967ayiv6996304770gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;=
border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex;"><div><div dir=3D"=
ltr"><br clear=3D"none"></div><div dir=3D"ltr">It=E2=80=99s overkill, but I=
have an electrical reel and air hose reel over each bay. It comes in terri=
bly handy. </div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br clear=3D"none"></div><div dir=3D=
"ltr">Don=E2=80=99t know about the planned lift, but mine is 220VAC, so don=
=E2=80=99t forget you may need that. </div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br clear=
=3D"none"></div><div dir=3D"ltr">On that note, I=E2=80=99ve been accumulati=
ng Real Machine Tools of late that all need 220 3phase. So 220 drops =
are going in around the shop for those and the welder. I find it easier to =
move the welder to the work than the work to the welder sometimes. </d=
iv><div dir=3D"ltr"><br clear=3D"none"><blockquote type=3D"cite">On Dec 31,=
2019, at 11:54, Bob Kramer via Fot <<a href=3D"mailto:fot@autox.team.ne=
t" target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"nofollow" shape=3D"rect">fot@autox.team.net</a>=
> wrote:<br clear=3D"none"><br clear=3D"none"></blockquote></div><blockq=
uote type=3D"cite"><div dir=3D"ltr">=EF=BB=BF<div dir=3D"ltr">Those are gre=
at ideas. I used the RapidAir tubing system and I have an overhead run 20' =
in. Dropping a line down and mounting it on both posts of the lifts w=
ould be a simple upgrade.. I did think ahead and wired in an extra 30 amp c=
ircuit up top. I was planning on using a retractable electric hose reel but=
dropping an outlet to the posts might be a better plan. <div><br clea=
r=3D"none"></div><div><div><div dir=3D"ltr"><div dir=3D"ltr">Bob Kramer</di=
v></div></div><br clear=3D"none"></div></div><br clear=3D"none"><div class=
=3D"ydpd9b0967ayiv6996304770gmail_quote"><div class=3D"ydpd9b0967ayiv699630=
4770gmail_attr" dir=3D"ltr">On Tue, Dec 31, 2019 at 8:52 AM Bill Tobin via =
Fot <<a href=3D"mailto:fot@autox.team.net"; target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"nofo=
llow" shape=3D"rect">fot@autox.team.net</a>> wrote:<br clear=3D"none"></=
div><blockquote class=3D"ydpd9b0967ayiv6996304770gmail_quote" style=3D"marg=
in:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1e=
x;">
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<p>Bob put the lift in the easiest accessible best lighted spot in
the shop. Also run air and power outlets to the lift; this
eliminates stringing hoses and cords across the floor. Put a
workbench close to the lift area; maybe on wheels. You can also
never have too much shelving. Or lighting especially as we age and
eyesight isn't quite what is used to be! And maybe have a small
room sectioned off for your lathe milling machine and maybe
surface grinder.</p>
<p>While you're at it maybe add another 10 or 20 feet to the
original specs!<br clear=3D"none">
</p>
<p>Ask me how I learned all this stuff!</p>
<p>Happy New Year everyone.</p>
<p>Cheers Bill<br clear=3D"none">
</p>
<div>On 12/31/2019 8:46 AM, Bob Kramer via
Fot wrote:<br clear=3D"none">
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<div dir=3D"ltr">Is that a 50 x 30?
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<div>I built a 30 X 40 and it took the better part of a year to
get it outfitted between other stuff. Shelving, electrical,
lighting, work benches and air lines. With a 12' front door =
on
a 30' front, I still can't decide where to put a lift.</div>
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PM John Styduhar via Fot <<a href=3D"mailto:fot@autox.team.net=
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<div class=3D"ydpd9b0967ayiv6996304770gmail_default" style=3D"f=
ont-size:small;">I
recently picked up an early TR4 frame from a fellow WPTA
club member that is in decent shape and have all the
necessary bits to build a wide track for my TR3. This
will be my next project after outfitting my new
headquarters. </div>
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thinking. The TR4 was based on a modified TR3 <br clear=
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frame. The TR4A frame was a totally new design, and
adaptable to either <br clear=3D"none">
the IRS or solid axle rear suspension. The TR6 used
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