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What the Heck I'd like one as well.

 

Mike H.

 

From: zmagnette-bounces@autox.team.net
[mailto:zmagnette-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of John Park
Sent: Saturday, December 07, 2013 2:52 PM
To: 'List for the Z Magnette Group - North America'
Subject: Re: [Zmagnette] Wiring diagrams and windscreens

 

I'd like to have a colour one and it would be good to fix the wiper issue
unless it is for specific cars only then maybe we should have the 2 versions
available. I'd be happy to have it as a pdf and get mine downloaded here to
get laminated or if someone wants to run a bunch off and post them I'll
gladly pay a reasonable premium for that option.

 

From: zmagnette-bounces@autox.team.net
[mailto:zmagnette-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Kurt Nagl
Sent: Friday, December 06, 2013 1:24 PM
To: zmagnette@autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Zmagnette] Wiring diagrams and windscreens

 

Having the color added sounds good to me.  After we download & print it to
8.5X11, then take that size & have it enlarged & laminated.  I had one for
my old '67 Beetle & it was very easy to trace 

 

Kurt

 

-----Original Message-----
From: John Perkins <wrench@attglobal.net>
To: List for the Z Magnette Group - North America <zmagnette@autox.team.net>
Sent: Fri, Dec 6, 2013 1:17 pm
Subject: Re: [Zmagnette] Wiring diagrams and windscreens

Rick and Allen:
    As I'm sitting in hotel rooms, I could reproduce the wiring diagram in
Visio and color the wires in as correct a color as Visio will allow.  Then
output it as a PDF file that anyone could print on either 8.5 by 11 or 11 by
17 paper.  We could even use this to fix the problem with the wiper motor
wiring that is in the factory shop manual.
    Perkins

On 12/6/2013 11:07 AM, Richard Greenberg wrote:

Allen et al.,

 

Regarding (1):  I would be happy to scan the wiring diagrams from the shop
manual.  My scanner is a cheap hp printer, but it could produce a workable
digital image.  Then anyone could print and laminate their own from the
digital file.  

 

If you want an artistic version, suitable for framing, you might want to use
a better scanner though.

 

Let me know if you want a digital scan.

 

--Rick

 

On Dec 5, 2013, at 11:28 PM, Allen Bachelder wrote:

 

In a recent phone conversation with one of our own, two concerns arose which
I promised to address about a week ago.  I apologize for the delay, but my
past week has been memorable for its interruptions.   

 

Two questions:

1.)  Is there somebody in our noble band who either could or would be
interested in making up enlarged wiring diagrams for the Magnette. I know
there are at least four of them, and maybe some choices would have to be
made, but did somebody volunteer that they could provide an 11 X 17 wiring
diagram copy either laminated or suitable for lamination? If you are not
such a person but have access to equipment that could produce same, for a
PRICE of course, I can guaranty you sales of two of these from the get-go.
I know we discussed this at some time but cannot recall how we left it.

 

2.) We also focused on a windscreen thread a year or two ago, and somebody
found that Pilkington (?name?) had a US distribution center (somewhere in
Ohio?) from which we might be able to expect a supply of new windscreens.
Is there a follow-up story here? There are those of us who either need one
or would buy one as a spare should they become available.  Once again, any
new information about this would certainly be welcome.  I know the nightmare
Steve Hanegan went through to land a shipment of windscreens and rear
Varitone glasses here in the US of A.  I suspect a good many of those of us
of the Varitone persuasion would be cheered to find a stash of these bits
available in North America, but I wouldn't wish this task on Steve again for
anything.  So... can anybody report anything new on this concern?

 

Many thanks to anybody who can contribute to this conversation! 

 

Holiday Cheers,

Allen

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Allen & Florrie Bachelder       =iii=<
Spring Creek Home for Wayward MGs

'57 ZB, '65 B, '69 C/GT, '73 B/GT

North Street, MI 48049, USA

http://www.mgexperience.net/member/bachldrs 

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D'>What the Heck I&#8217;d like one as well.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
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0in 0in'><p class=3DMsoNormal><b><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span>=
</b><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> =
zmagnette-bounces@autox.team.net =
[mailto:zmagnette-bounces@autox.team.net] <b>On Behalf Of </b>John =
Park<br><b>Sent:</b> Saturday, December 07, 2013 2:52 PM<br><b>To:</b> =
'List for the Z Magnette Group - North America'<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: =
[Zmagnette] Wiring diagrams and =
windscreens<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'=
>I&#8217;d like to have a colour one and it would be good to fix the =
wiper issue unless it is for specific cars only then maybe we should =
have the 2 versions available. I&#8217;d be happy to have it as a pdf =
and get mine downloaded here to get laminated or if someone wants to run =
a bunch off and post them I&#8217;ll gladly pay a reasonable premium for =
that option.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'=
><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><b><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>From:</span=
></b><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'> <a =
href=3D"mailto:zmagnette-bounces@autox.team.net";>zmagnette-bounces@autox.=
team.net</a> [<a =
href=3D"mailto:zmagnette-bounces@autox.team.net";>mailto:zmagnette-bounces=
@autox.team.net</a>] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Kurt Nagl<br><b>Sent:</b> =
Friday, December 06, 2013 1:24 PM<br><b>To:</b> <a =
href=3D"mailto:zmagnette@autox.team.net";>zmagnette@autox.team.net</a><br>=
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Zmagnette] Wiring diagrams and =
windscreens<o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>Having the =
color added sounds good to me. &nbsp;After we download &amp; print it to =
8.5X11, then take that size &amp; have it enlarged &amp; laminated. =
&nbsp;I had one for my old '67 Beetle &amp; it was very easy to trace =
<o:p></o:p></span></p><div><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'margin-bottom:13.5pt'><span =
style=3D'font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'><o:p>&nbsp;</=
o:p></span></p><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><b><i><span =
style=3D'font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>Kurt</span></=
i></b><span =
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span></p></div><p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-bottom:13.5pt'><span =
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----Original Message-----<br>From: John Perkins &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:wrench@attglobal.net";>wrench@attglobal.net</a>&gt;<br>To: =
List for the Z Magnette Group - North America &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:zmagnette@autox.team.net";>zmagnette@autox.team.net</a>&gt;=
<br>Sent: Fri, Dec 6, 2013 1:17 pm<br>Subject: Re: [Zmagnette] Wiring =
diagrams and windscreens<o:p></o:p></span></p><div =
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style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>R=
ick and Allen:<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; As I'm sitting in hotel rooms, I =
could reproduce the wiring diagram in Visio and color the wires in as =
correct a color as Visio will allow.&nbsp; Then output it as a PDF file =
that anyone could print on either 8.5 by 11 or 11 by 17 paper.&nbsp; We =
could even use this to fix the problem with the wiper motor wiring that =
is in the factory shop manual.<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Perkins<br><br>On =
12/6/2013 11:07 AM, Richard Greenberg =
wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><blockquote =
style=3D'margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>A=
llen et al.,<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'><=
o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>R=
egarding (1): &nbsp;I would be happy to scan the wiring diagrams from =
the shop manual. &nbsp;My scanner is a cheap hp printer, but it could =
produce a workable digital image. &nbsp;Then anyone could print and =
laminate their own from the digital file. =
&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'><=
o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>I=
f you want an artistic version, suitable for framing, you might want to =
use a better scanner though.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
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style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>L=
et me know if you want a digital =
scan.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'><=
o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
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-Rick<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
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o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>O=
n Dec 5, 2013, at 11:28 PM, Allen Bachelder =
wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'margin-bottom:12.0pt'><span =
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class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>I=
n a recent phone conversation with one of our own, two concerns arose =
which I promised to address about a week ago. &nbsp;I apologize for the =
delay, but my past week has been memorable for its interruptions. &nbsp; =
<o:p></o:p></span></p><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'><=
o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>T=
wo questions:<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><blockquote =
style=3D'margin-left:30.0pt;margin-top:5.0pt;margin-right:0in;margin-bott=
om:5.0pt'><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>1=
.) &nbsp;Is there somebody in our noble band who either could or would =
be interested in making up enlarged wiring diagrams for the Magnette. I =
know there are at least four of them, and maybe some choices would have =
to be made, but did somebody volunteer that they could provide an 11 X =
17 wiring diagram copy either laminated or suitable for lamination? If =
you are not such a person but have access to equipment that could =
produce same, for a PRICE of course, I can guaranty you sales of two of =
these from the get-go. &nbsp;I know we discussed this at some time but =
cannot recall how we left it.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'><=
o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>2=
.) We also focused on a windscreen thread a year or two ago, and =
somebody found that Pilkington (?name?) had a US distribution center =
(somewhere in Ohio?) from which we might be able to expect a supply of =
new windscreens. &nbsp;Is there a follow-up story here? There are those =
of us who either need one or would buy one as a spare should they become =
available. &nbsp;Once again, any new information about this would =
certainly be welcome. &nbsp;I know the nightmare Steve Hanegan went =
through to land a shipment of windscreens and rear Varitone glasses here =
in the US of A. &nbsp;I suspect a good many of those of us of the =
Varitone persuasion would be cheered to find a stash of these bits =
available in North America, but I wouldn't wish this task on Steve again =
for anything. &nbsp;So... can anybody report anything new on this =
concern?<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'><=
o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p></div></blockquote><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>M=
any thanks to anybody who can contribute to this conversation! =
<o:p></o:p></span></p><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
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o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>H=
oliday Cheers,<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p =
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llen<o:p></o:p></span></p><div><div><div><div><div><p =
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