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Count me in for one. When I get to that point in a few years I'm sure it
will help.
Kent
Kent
On Dec 9, 2013 12:15 PM, "sandyandmike" <sandyandmike@fuse.net> wrote:
> What the Heck I=92d like one as well.
>
>
>
> Mike H.
>
>
>
> *From:* zmagnette-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:
> zmagnette-bounces@autox.team.net] *On Behalf Of *John Park
> *Sent:* Saturday, December 07, 2013 2:52 PM
> *To:* 'List for the Z Magnette Group - North America'
> *Subject:* Re: [Zmagnette] Wiring diagrams and windscreens
>
>
>
> I=92d like to have a colour one and it would be good to fix the wiper iss=
ue
> unless it is for specific cars only then maybe we should have the 2
> versions available. I=92d be happy to have it as a pdf and get mine
> downloaded here to get laminated or if someone wants to run a bunch off a=
nd
> post them I=92ll gladly pay a reasonable premium for that option.
>
>
>
> *From:* zmagnette-bounces@autox.team.net [
> mailto:zmagnette-bounces@autox.team.net <zmagnette-bounces@autox.team.net=
>]
> *On Behalf Of *Kurt Nagl
> *Sent:* Friday, December 06, 2013 1:24 PM
> *To:* zmagnette@autox.team.net
> *Subject:* Re: [Zmagnette] Wiring diagrams and windscreens
>
>
>
> Having the color added sounds good to me. After we download & print it t=
o
> 8.5X11, then take that size & have it enlarged & laminated. I had one fo=
r
> my old '67 Beetle & it was very easy to trace
>
>
>
> *Kurt*
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: John Perkins <wrench@attglobal.net>
> To: List for the Z Magnette Group - North America <
> zmagnette@autox.team.net>
> Sent: Fri, Dec 6, 2013 1:17 pm
> Subject: Re: [Zmagnette] Wiring diagrams and windscreens
>
> Rick and Allen:
> As I'm sitting in hotel rooms, I could reproduce the wiring diagram i=
n
> Visio and color the wires in as correct a color as Visio will allow. The=
n
> output it as a PDF file that anyone could print on either 8.5 by 11 or 11
> by 17 paper. We could even use this to fix the problem with the wiper
> motor wiring that is in the factory shop manual.
> Perkins
>
> On 12/6/2013 11:07 AM, Richard Greenberg wrote:
>
> Allen et al.,
>
>
>
> Regarding (1): I would be happy to scan the wiring diagrams from the sho=
p
> manual. My scanner is a cheap hp printer, but it could produce a workabl=
e
> digital image. Then anyone could print and laminate their own from the
> digital file.
>
>
>
> If you want an artistic version, suitable for framing, you might want to
> use a better scanner though.
>
>
>
> Let me know if you want a digital scan.
>
>
>
> --Rick
>
>
>
> On Dec 5, 2013, at 11:28 PM, Allen Bachelder wrote:
>
>
>
> In a recent phone conversation with one of our own, two concerns arose
> which I promised to address about a week ago. I apologize for the delay,
> but my past week has been memorable for its interruptions.
>
>
>
> Two questions:
>
> 1.) Is there somebody in our noble band who either could or would be
> interested in making up enlarged wiring diagrams for the Magnette. I know
> there are at least four of them, and maybe some choices would have to be
> made, but did somebody volunteer that they could provide an 11 X 17 wirin=
g
> diagram copy either laminated or suitable for lamination? If you are not
> such a person but have access to equipment that could produce same, for a
> PRICE of course, I can guaranty you sales of two of these from the get-go=
.
> I know we discussed this at some time but cannot recall how we left it.
>
>
>
> 2.) We also focused on a windscreen thread a year or two ago, and somebod=
y
> found that Pilkington (?name?) had a US distribution center (somewhere in
> Ohio?) from which we might be able to expect a supply of new windscreens.
> Is there a follow-up story here? There are those of us who either need o=
ne
> or would buy one as a spare should they become available. Once again, an=
y
> new information about this would certainly be welcome. I know the
> nightmare Steve Hanegan went through to land a shipment of windscreens an=
d
> rear Varitone glasses here in the US of A. I suspect a good many of thos=
e
> of us of the Varitone persuasion would be cheered to find a stash of thes=
e
> bits available in North America, but I wouldn't wish this task on Steve
> again for anything. So... can anybody report anything new on this concer=
n?
>
>
>
> Many thanks to anybody who can contribute to this conversation!
>
>
>
> Holiday Cheers,
>
> Allen
>
> ******************************************************************
>
>
> *Allen & Florrie Bachelder =3Diii=3D<Spring Creek Home for Wayward =
MGs*
>
> *'57 ZB, '65 B, '69 C/GT, '73 B/GT*
>
> *North Street, MI 48049, USA*
>
> *http://www.mgexperience.net/member/bachldrs
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>
> ****************************************************************
>
>
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<p dir=3D"ltr">Count me in for one. When I get to that point in a few years=
I'm sure it will help. </p>
<p dir=3D"ltr">Kent </p>
<p dir=3D"ltr">Kent</p>
<div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Dec 9, 2013 12:15 PM, "sandyandmike"=
; <<a href=3D"mailto:sandyandmike@fuse.net";>sandyandmike@fuse.net</a>>=
; wrote:<br type=3D"attribution"><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D=
"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
<div lang=3D"EN-US" link=3D"blue" vlink=3D"purple"><div><p class=3D"MsoNorm=
al"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","s=
ans-serif";color:#1f497d">What the Heck I=92d like one as well.<u></u>=
<u></u></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Ca=
libri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"><u></u>=A0<u></u></span><=
/p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"=
;Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">Mike H.<u></u><u></u><=
/span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Ca=
libri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"><u></u>=A0<u></u></span><=
/p><div><div style=3D"border:none;border-top:solid #b5c4df 1.0pt;padding:3.=
0pt 0in 0in 0in">
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><b><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"=
;Tahoma","sans-serif"">From:</span></b><span style=3D"font-s=
ize:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif""> <a href=
=3D"mailto:zmagnette-bounces@autox.team.net"; target=3D"_blank">zmagnette-bo=
unces@autox.team.net</a> [mailto:<a href=3D"mailto:zmagnette-bounces@autox.=
team.net" target=3D"_blank">zmagnette-bounces@autox.team.net</a>] <b>On Beh=
alf Of </b>John Park<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Saturday, December 07, 2013 2:52 PM<br><b>To:</b> 'List fo=
r the Z Magnette Group - North America'<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Zmagnet=
te] Wiring diagrams and windscreens<u></u><u></u></span></p></div></div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=A0<u></u></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span st=
yle=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"=
;;color:#1f497d">I=92d like to have a colour one and it would be good to fi=
x the wiper issue unless it is for specific cars only then maybe we should =
have the 2 versions available. I=92d be happy to have it as a pdf and get m=
ine downloaded here to get laminated or if someone wants to run a bunch off=
and post them I=92ll gladly pay a reasonable premium for that option.<u></=
u><u></u></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Ar=
ial","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"><u></u>=A0<u></u></span></p=
><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><b><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quo=
t;Calibri","sans-serif"">From:</span></b><span style=3D"font=
-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif""> <a hr=
ef=3D"mailto:zmagnette-bounces@autox.team.net"; target=3D"_blank">zmagnette-=
bounces@autox.team.net</a> [<a href=3D"mailto:zmagnette-bounces@autox.team.=
net" target=3D"_blank">mailto:zmagnette-bounces@autox.team.net</a>] <b>On B=
ehalf Of </b>Kurt Nagl<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Friday, December 06, 2013 1:24 PM<br><b>To:</b> <a href=3D"mai=
lto:zmagnette@autox.team.net" target=3D"_blank">zmagnette@autox.team.net</a=
><br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Zmagnette] Wiring diagrams and windscreens<u></u>=
<u></u></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=A0<u></u></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span st=
yle=3D"font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"=
;">Having the color added sounds good to me. =A0After we download & pri=
nt it to 8.5X11, then take that size & have it enlarged & laminated=
. =A0I had one for my old '67 Beetle & it was very easy to trace <u=
></u><u></u></span></p>
<div><p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-bottom:13.5pt"><span style=3D"f=
ont-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif""><u></=
u>=A0<u></u></span></p><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><b><i><span style=3D"fon=
t-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">Kurt</s=
pan></i></b><span style=3D"font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Arial",&=
quot;sans-serif""><u></u><u></u></span></p>
</div><p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-bottom:13.5pt"><span style=3D"=
font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif""><u><=
/u>=A0<u></u></span></p><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-bottom:=
12.0pt">
<span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-se=
rif"">-----Original Message-----<br>From: John Perkins <<a href=3D"=
mailto:wrench@attglobal.net"; target=3D"_blank">wrench@attglobal.net</a>>=
<br>
To: List for the Z Magnette Group - North America <<a href=3D"mailto:zma=
gnette@autox.team.net" target=3D"_blank">zmagnette@autox.team.net</a>><b=
r>Sent: Fri, Dec 6, 2013 1:17 pm<br>Subject: Re: [Zmagnette] Wiring diagram=
s and windscreens<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<div><div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-=
family:"Arial","sans-serif"">Rick and Allen:<br>=A0=A0=
=A0 As I'm sitting in hotel rooms, I could reproduce the wiring diagram=
in Visio and color the wires in as correct a color as Visio will allow.=A0=
Then output it as a PDF file that anyone could print on either 8.5 by 11 o=
r 11 by 17 paper.=A0 We could even use this to fix the problem with the wip=
er motor wiring that is in the factory shop manual.<br>
=A0=A0=A0 Perkins<br><br>On 12/6/2013 11:07 AM, Richard Greenberg wrote:<u>=
</u><u></u></span></p></div><blockquote style=3D"margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bo=
ttom:5.0pt"><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;fon=
t-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">Allen et al.,<u></u><u><=
/u></span></p>
</div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-fami=
ly:"Arial","sans-serif""><u></u>=A0<u></u></span></p></=
div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family=
:"Arial","sans-serif"">Regarding (1): =A0I would be hap=
py to scan the wiring diagrams from the shop manual. =A0My scanner is a che=
ap hp printer, but it could produce a workable digital image. =A0Then anyon=
e could print and laminate their own from the digital file. =A0<u></u><u></=
u></span></p>
</div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-fami=
ly:"Arial","sans-serif""><u></u>=A0<u></u></span></p></=
div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family=
:"Arial","sans-serif"">If you want an artistic version,=
suitable for framing, you might want to use a better scanner though.<u></u=
><u></u></span></p>
</div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-fami=
ly:"Arial","sans-serif""><u></u>=A0<u></u></span></p></=
div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family=
:"Arial","sans-serif"">Let me know if you want a digita=
l scan.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
</div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-fami=
ly:"Arial","sans-serif""><u></u>=A0<u></u></span></p></=
div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family=
:"Arial","sans-serif"">--Rick<u></u><u></u></span></p>
</div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&q=
uot;Arial","sans-serif""><u></u>=A0<u></u></span></p><div><d=
iv><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"=
;Arial","sans-serif"">On Dec 5, 2013, at 11:28 PM, Allen Bac=
helder wrote:<u></u><u></u></span></p>
</div><p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-bottom:12.0pt"><span style=3D"=
font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif""><u><=
/u>=A0<u></u></span></p><blockquote style=3D"margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom=
:5.0pt">
<div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&qu=
ot;Arial","sans-serif"">In a recent phone conversation with =
one of our own, two concerns arose which I promised to address about a week=
ago. =A0I apologize for the delay, but my past week has been memorable for=
its interruptions. =A0 <u></u><u></u></span></p>
<div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&qu=
ot;Arial","sans-serif""><u></u>=A0<u></u></span></p></div><d=
iv><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"=
;Arial","sans-serif"">Two questions:<u></u><u></u></span></p=
>
</div><blockquote style=3D"margin-left:30.0pt;margin-top:5.0pt;margin-right=
:0in;margin-bottom:5.0pt"><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-s=
ize:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">1.) =A0Is =
there somebody in our noble band who either could or would be interested in=
making up enlarged wiring diagrams for the Magnette. I know there are at l=
east four of them, and maybe some choices would have to be made, but did so=
mebody volunteer that they could provide an 11 X 17 wiring diagram copy eit=
her laminated or suitable for lamination? If you are not such a person but =
have access to equipment that could produce same, for a PRICE of course, I =
can guaranty you sales of two of these from the get-go. =A0I know we discus=
sed this at some time but cannot recall how we left it.<u></u><u></u></span=
></p>
</div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-fami=
ly:"Arial","sans-serif""><u></u>=A0<u></u></span></p></=
div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family=
:"Arial","sans-serif"">2.) We also focused on a windscr=
een thread a year or two ago, and somebody found that Pilkington (?name?) h=
ad a US distribution center (somewhere in Ohio?) from which we might be abl=
e to expect a supply of new windscreens. =A0Is there a follow-up story here=
? There are those of us who either need one or would buy one as a spare sho=
uld they become available. =A0Once again, any new information about this wo=
uld certainly be welcome. =A0I know the nightmare Steve Hanegan went throug=
h to land a shipment of windscreens and rear Varitone glasses here in the U=
S of A. =A0I suspect a good many of those of us of the Varitone persuasion =
would be cheered to find a stash of these bits available in North America, =
but I wouldn't wish this task on Steve again for anything. =A0So... can=
anybody report anything new on this concern?<u></u><u></u></span></p>
</div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-fami=
ly:"Arial","sans-serif""><u></u>=A0<u></u></span></p></=
div></blockquote><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;fon=
t-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">Many thanks to anybody w=
ho can contribute to this conversation! <u></u><u></u></span></p>
<div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&qu=
ot;Arial","sans-serif""><u></u>=A0<u></u></span></p></div><d=
iv><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"=
;Arial","sans-serif"">Holiday Cheers,<u></u><u></u></span></=
p>
</div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-fami=
ly:"Arial","sans-serif"">Allen<u></u><u></u></span></p>=
<div><div><div><div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span><b><i><span style=3D"=
font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif"">*=
***************************************************************</span></i><=
/b></span><span><span style=3D"font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Helvetica=
","sans-serif""> </span></span><span><span style=3D"font-siz=
e:13.5pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif""><u></u><=
u></u></span></span></p>
<div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div>=
<div><div><div><div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><b><i><span style=3D"font-s=
ize:9.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif"">Allen &=
amp; Florrie Bachelder =A0 =A0 =A0 =3Diii=3D<<br>
Spring Creek Home for Wayward MGs</span></i></b><span style=3D"font-size:9.=
0pt"><u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><b><i><span=
style=3D"font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-seri=
f"">'57 ZB, '65 B, '69 C/GT, '73 B/GT</span></i></b><s=
pan style=3D"font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-s=
erif""><u></u><u></u></span></p>
</div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><b><i><span style=3D"font-size:9.0pt;font=
-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif"">North Street, MI 4804=
9, USA</span></i></b><span style=3D"font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Helve=
tica","sans-serif""><u></u><u></u></span></p>
</div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></d=
iv></div></div></div></div></div></div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span><b><i><=
span style=3D"font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-=
serif""><a href=3D"http://www.mgexperience.net/member/bachldrs"; target=
=3D"_blank">http://www.mgexperience.net/member/bachldrs</a></span></i></b><=
/span><span><span style=3D"font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Helvetica&quo=
t;,"sans-serif""> </span></span><span><span style=3D"font-size:13=
.5pt"><u></u><u></u></span></span></p>
<div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div>=
<div><div><div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span><span style=3D"font-size:9=
.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif"">************=
****************************************************</span></span><u></u><u=
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