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To: Mike <mikesmuseum@yahoo.com>, List for the Z Magnette Group - North America <zmagnette@autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: [Zmagnette] Wiring diagrams and windscreens <zmagnette@autox.team.net> <zmagnette.autox.team.net>
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     Would someone tell me what is wrong with the wiper motor wiring =
digram, i am now in the process of rewiring. Thanks

JS







On Dec 6, 2013, at 2:56 PM, Mike wrote:

> Isn't the lead for the clock light missing in some versions of the =
diagram?
> Mike
> From: Arch Boston <arch.boston@twc.com>
> To: List for the Z Magnette Group - North America =
<zmagnette@autox.team.net>=20
> Sent: Friday, December 6, 2013 11:33 AM
> Subject: Re: [Zmagnette] Wiring diagrams and windscreens
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> John, I had forgotten the wiper motor error.  There were some other =
omissions that I can't remember.    Would be good have "corrected" copy. =
 Mine is 11x17 and is a good workable size for me.  I had one made that =
was a good 3 or 4 times as big.  It proved to be too big to work with =
easily. Arch
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> Sent from my iPad
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> On Dec 6, 2013, at 12:51 PM, John Perkins <wrench@attglobal.net> =
wrote:
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>> Rick and Allen:
>>     As I'm sitting in hotel rooms, I could reproduce the wiring =
diagram in Visio and color the wires in as correct a color as Visio will =
allow.  Then output it as a PDF file that anyone could print on either =
8.5 by 11 or 11 by 17 paper.  We could even use this to fix the problem =
with the wiper motor wiring that is in the factory shop manual.
>>     Perkins
>>=20
>> On 12/6/2013 11:07 AM, Richard Greenberg wrote:
>>> Allen et al.,
>>>=20
>>> Regarding (1):  I would be happy to scan the wiring diagrams from =
the shop manual.  My scanner is a cheap hp printer, but it could produce =
a workable digital image.  Then anyone could print and laminate their =
own from the digital file. =20
>>>=20
>>> If you want an artistic version, suitable for framing, you might =
want to use a better scanner though.
>>>=20
>>> Let me know if you want a digital scan.
>>>=20
>>> --Rick
>>>=20
>>> On Dec 5, 2013, at 11:28 PM, Allen Bachelder wrote:
>>>=20
>>>> In a recent phone conversation with one of our own, two concerns =
arose which I promised to address about a week ago.  I apologize for the =
delay, but my past week has been memorable for its interruptions. =20
>>>>=20
>>>> Two questions:
>>>> 1.)  Is there somebody in our noble band who either could or would =
be interested in making up enlarged wiring diagrams for the Magnette. I =
know there are at least four of them, and maybe some choices would have =
to be made, but did somebody volunteer that they could provide an 11 X =
17 wiring diagram copy either laminated or suitable for lamination? If =
you are not such a person but have access to equipment that could =
produce same, for a PRICE of course, I can guaranty you sales of two of =
these from the get-go.  I know we discussed this at some time but cannot =
recall how we left it.
>>>>=20
>>>> 2.) We also focused on a windscreen thread a year or two ago, and =
somebody found that Pilkington (?name?) had a US distribution center =
(somewhere in Ohio?) from which we might be able to expect a supply of =
new windscreens.  Is there a follow-up story here? There are those of us =
who either need one or would buy one as a spare should they become =
available.  Once again, any new information about this would certainly =
be welcome.  I know the nightmare Steve Hanegan went through to land a =
shipment of windscreens and rear Varitone glasses here in the US of A.  =
I suspect a good many of those of us of the Varitone persuasion would be =
cheered to find a stash of these bits available in North America, but I =
wouldn't wish this task on Steve again for anything.  So... can anybody =
report anything new on this concern?
>>>>=20
>>>> Many thanks to anybody who can contribute to this conversation!
>>>>=20
>>>> Holiday Cheers,
>>>> Allen
>>>> ****************************************************************
>>>> Allen & Florrie Bachelder       =3Diii=3D<
>>>> Spring Creek Home for Wayward MGs
>>>> '57 ZB, '65 B, '69 C/GT, '73 B/GT
>>>> North Street, MI 48049, USA
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<html><head></head><body style=3D"word-wrap: break-word; =
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">&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;Would someone tell me what is wrong with the wiper =
motor wiring digram, i am now in the process of rewiring. =
Thanks<div><br></div><div>JS</div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br><=
/div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br><div><div>On =
Dec 6, 2013, at 2:56 PM, Mike wrote:</div><br =
class=3D"Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><div><div =
style=3D"color:#000; background-color:#fff; font-family:Courier New, =
courier, monaco, monospace, sans-serif;font-size:10pt">Isn't the lead =
for the clock light missing in some versions of the =
diagram?<br><div><span></span></div><div>Mike<br></div>  <div =
style=3D"font-family: Courier New, courier, monaco, monospace, =
sans-serif; font-size: 10pt;"> <div style=3D"font-family: HelveticaNeue, =
Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif; font-size: =
12pt;"> <div dir=3D"ltr"> <hr size=3D"1">  <font face=3D"Arial" =
size=3D"2"> <b><span style=3D"font-weight:bold;">From:</span></b> Arch =
Boston &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:arch.boston@twc.com";>arch.boston@twc.com</a>&gt;<br> =
<b><span style=3D"font-weight: bold;">To:</span></b> List for the Z =
Magnette Group - North America &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:zmagnette@autox.team.net";>zmagnette@autox.team.net</a>&gt; =
<br> <b><span style=3D"font-weight: bold;">Sent:</span></b> Friday, =
December 6, 2013 11:33 AM<br> <b><span style=3D"font-weight: =
bold;">Subject:</span></b> Re: [Zmagnette] Wiring diagrams and
 windscreens<br> </font> </div> <div class=3D"y_msg_container"><br><div =
id=3D"yiv9075429271"><div><div>John, I had forgotten the wiper motor =
error. &nbsp;There were some other omissions that I can't remember. =
&nbsp; &nbsp;Would be good have "corrected" copy. &nbsp;Mine is 11x17 =
and is a good workable size for me. &nbsp;I had one made that was a good =
3 or 4 times as big. &nbsp;It proved to be too big to work with easily. =
Arch<br><br>Sent from my iPad</div><div><br>On Dec 6, 2013, at 12:51 PM, =
John Perkins &lt;<a rel=3D"nofollow" =
ymailto=3D"mailto:wrench@attglobal.net"; target=3D"_blank" =
href=3D"mailto:wrench@attglobal.net";>wrench@attglobal.net</a>&gt; =
wrote:<br><br></div><div></div><blockquote type=3D"cite"><div>
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   =20
 =20
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    <div class=3D"yiv9075429271moz-cite-prefix">Rick and Allen:<br>
      &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; As I'm sitting in hotel rooms, I could =
reproduce the wiring
      diagram in Visio and color the wires in as correct a color as
      Visio will allow.&nbsp; Then output it as a PDF file that anyone =
could
      print on either 8.5 by 11 or 11 by 17 paper.&nbsp; We could even =
use
      this to fix the problem with the wiper motor wiring that is in the
      factory shop manual.<br>
      &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Perkins<br>
      <br>
      On 12/6/2013 11:07 AM, Richard Greenberg wrote:<br>
    </div>
    <blockquote type=3D"cite">
      <div>Allen et al.,</div>
      <div><br>
      </div>
      <div>Regarding (1): &nbsp;I would be happy to scan the wiring =
diagrams
        from the shop manual. &nbsp;My scanner is a cheap hp printer, =
but it
        could produce a workable digital image. &nbsp;Then anyone could =
print
        and laminate their own from the digital file. &nbsp;</div>
      <div><br>
      </div>
      <div>If you want an artistic version, suitable for framing, you
        might want to use a better scanner though.</div>
      <div><br>
      </div>
      <div>Let me know if you want a digital scan.</div>
      <div><br>
      </div>
      <div>--Rick</div>
      <br>
      <div>
        <div>On Dec 5, 2013, at 11:28 PM, Allen Bachelder wrote:</div>
        <br class=3D"yiv9075429271Apple-interchange-newline">
        <blockquote type=3D"cite">
          <div style=3D"word-wrap:break-word;">In a recent phone
            conversation with one of our own, two concerns arose which I
            promised to address about a week ago. &nbsp;I apologize for =
the
            delay, but my past week has been memorable for its
            interruptions. &nbsp;
            <div><br>
            </div>
            <div>Two questions:</div>
            <blockquote class=3D"yiv9075429271webkit-indent-blockquote" =
style=3D"
margin:0 0 0 40px;border:none;padding:0px;">
              <div>1.) &nbsp;Is there somebody in our noble band who =
either
                could or would be interested in making up enlarged
                wiring diagrams for the Magnette. I know there are at
                least four of them, and maybe some choices would have to
                be made, but did somebody volunteer that they could
                provide an 11 X 17 wiring diagram copy either laminated
                or suitable for lamination? If you are not such a person
                but have access to equipment that could produce same,
                for a PRICE of course, I can guaranty you sales of two
                of these from the get-go. &nbsp;I know we discussed this =
at
                some time but cannot recall how we left it.</div>
              <div><br>
              </div>
              <div>2.) We also focused on a windscreen thread a year or
                two ago, and somebody found that Pilkington (?name?) had
                a US distribution center (somewhere in Ohio?) from which
                we might be able to expect a supply of new windscreens.
                &nbsp;Is there a follow-up story here? There are those =
of us
                who either need one or would buy one as a spare should
                they become available. &nbsp;Once again, any new =
information
                about this would certainly be welcome. &nbsp;I know the
                nightmare Steve Hanegan went through to land a shipment
                of windscreens and rear Varitone glasses here in the US
                of A. &nbsp;I suspect a good many of those of us of the
                Varitone persuasion would be cheered to find a stash of
                these bits available in North America, but I wouldn't
                wish this task on Steve again for anything. &nbsp;So... =
can
                anybody report anything new on this concern?</div>
              <div><br>
              </div>
            </blockquote>
            Many thanks to anybody who can contribute to this
            conversation!
            <div><br>
            </div>
            <div>Holiday Cheers,</div>
            <div>Allen<br>
              <div>
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font-size:12px;"><b><i>Allen
                                                          &amp; Florrie
                                                          Bachelder =
&nbsp; &nbsp;
                                                          &nbsp; =
=3Diii=3D&lt;<br>
                                                          Spring Creek
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