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11x17 would be good for me. Color is awesome
Charlie Durning
If you are using Google or Gmail, Big Brother is watching.
On Fri, Dec 6, 2013 at 5:36 PM, Steve Kirby <skirby210@cox.net> wrote:
> I won't pay $2.00. That is ridiculous! I would gladly pay $5.00
> however, as the joy of having it in color is PRICELESS! My choice would be
> 11 x 17 or 12 x 18 . . . in that range. Bigger OK, smaller no. I've done
> the wiring on a couple of cars, and can't 'splain strongly enuf how very
> helpful a good, readable, color-coded schematic is. Maybe its cuz I'm not
> the electronic genius that some of you are, but a good, readable schematic
> has gotten me through a couple of times, with no fires or shorts.
>
> #2SteveK
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> *From:* John Perkins <wrench@attglobal.net>
> *To:* List for the Z Magnette Group - North America<zmagnette@autox.team.net>
> *Sent:* Friday, December 06, 2013 1:24 PM
> *Subject:* Re: [Zmagnette] Wiring diagrams and windscreens
>
> Allen:
> The longest time for me to build the wiring diagram in Visio is the
> time to build the icons for the various components to look as much like the
> original diagram as possible. Would $2.00 a copy for PDFs be too much?
> That way people who want to print it can take the PDF to their nearest
> Kinko's and those who like to use a PC or tablet could use it
> electronically. Also, I will need some input about what size most folks
> would want it to be for printing and the corrections that need to made. I
> know about the wiper motor, and I'll check about the clock when I get home
> tonight, are there any more problems?
> Perkins
>
> On 12/6/2013 1:30 PM, Allen Bachelder wrote:
>
> Perkins,
>
> I think your idea sounds like a plan, but I also think you should be paid
> for your time and effort. If you could hang a price tag on the completed
> item, perhaps we could price it out and have folks receive the PDF file
> once they're paid, or maybe there are a handful of us on the list who just
> want to kick in enough that you would be comfortable distributing it to
> all. What works for you?
>
> Thanks!
> Allen
> ******************************************************************
>
> *Allen & Florrie Bachelder =iii=<Spring Creek Home for Wayward MGs*
> *'57 ZB, '65 B, '69 C/GT, '73 B/GT*
> *North Street, MI 48049, USA*
> *http://www.mgexperience.net/member/bachldrs
> <http://www.mgexperience.net/member/bachldrs>*
>
> ******************************************************************
>
> On Dec 6, 2013, at 12:51 PM, John Perkins wrote:
>
> Rick and Allen:
> As I'm sitting in hotel rooms, I could reproduce the wiring diagram in
> Visio and color the wires in as correct a color as Visio will allow. Then
> output it as a PDF file that anyone could print on either 8.5 by 11 or 11
> by 17 paper. We could even use this to fix the problem with the wiper
> motor wiring that is in the factory shop manual.
> Perkins
>
> On 12/6/2013 11:07 AM, Richard Greenberg wrote:
>
> Allen et al.,
>
> Regarding (1): I would be happy to scan the wiring diagrams from the shop
> manual. My scanner is a cheap hp printer, but it could produce a workable
> digital image. Then anyone could print and laminate their own from the
> digital file.
>
> If you want an artistic version, suitable for framing, you might want to
> use a better scanner though.
>
> Let me know if you want a digital scan.
>
> --Rick
>
> On Dec 5, 2013, at 11:28 PM, Allen Bachelder wrote:
>
> In a recent phone conversation with one of our own, two concerns arose
> which I promised to address about a week ago. I apologize for the delay,
> but my past week has been memorable for its interruptions.
>
> Two questions:
>
> 1.) Is there somebody in our noble band who either could or would be
> interested in making up enlarged wiring diagrams for the Magnette. I know
> there are at least four of them, and maybe some choices would have to be
> made, but did somebody volunteer that they could provide an 11 X 17 wiring
> diagram copy either laminated or suitable for lamination? If you are not
> such a person but have access to equipment that could produce same, for a
> PRICE of course, I can guaranty you sales of two of these from the get-go.
> I know we discussed this at some time but cannot recall how we left it.
>
> 2.) We also focused on a windscreen thread a year or two ago, and somebody
> found that Pilkington (?name?) had a US distribution center (somewhere in
> Ohio?) from which we might be able to expect a supply of new windscreens.
> Is there a follow-up story here? There are those of us who either need one
> or would buy one as a spare should they become available. Once again, any
> new information about this would certainly be welcome. I know the
> nightmare Steve Hanegan went through to land a shipment of windscreens and
> rear Varitone glasses here in the US of A. I suspect a good many of those
> of us of the Varitone persuasion would be cheered to find a stash of these
> bits available in North America, but I wouldn't wish this task on Steve
> again for anything. So... can anybody report anything new on this concern?
>
> Many thanks to anybody who can contribute to this conversation!
>
> Holiday Cheers,
> Allen
> ******************************************************************
>
> *Allen & Florrie Bachelder =iii=<Spring Creek Home for Wayward MGs*
> *'57 ZB, '65 B, '69 C/GT, '73 B/GT*
> *North Street, MI 48049, USA*
> *http://www.mgexperience.net/member/bachldrs
> <http://www.mgexperience.net/member/bachldrs>*
>
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<div dir=3D"ltr">11x17 would be good for me.=A0 Color is awesome</div><div =
class=3D"gmail_extra"><br clear=3D"all"><div><div dir=3D"ltr"><div>=A0</div=
>
<div>Charlie Durning</div>
<div>=A0</div>
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hing.</font></div>
<div>=A0</div></div></div>
<br><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Fri, Dec 6, 2013 at 5:36 PM, Steve Ki=
rby <span dir=3D"ltr"><<a href=3D"mailto:skirby210@cox.net"; target=3D"_b=
lank">skirby210@cox.net</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class=3D"gmail=
_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:=
1ex">
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<div>I won't pay $2.00.=A0 That is ridiculous!=A0 I would gladly pay $5=
.00=20
however, as the joy of having it in color is PRICELESS!=A0 My choice would =
be=20
11 x 17 or 12 x 18 . . . in that range.=A0 Bigger OK, smaller no.=A0 I'=
ve=20
done the wiring on a couple of cars, and can't 'splain strongly enu=
f=A0how=20
very helpful=A0a good, readable, color-coded schematic is.=A0 Maybe its=20
cuz I'm not the electronic genius that some of you are, but a good, rea=
dable=20
schematic has gotten me through a couple of times, with no fires or=20
shorts.</div>
<div>=A0</div>
<div>#2SteveK</div>
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rgin-left:5px;border-left-color:rgb(0,0,0);border-left-width:2px;border-lef=
t-style:solid">
<div style=3D"font:10pt/normal arial;font-size-adjust:none;font-stretch:n=
ormal">----- Original Message ----- </div>
<div style=3D"background:rgb(228,228,228);font:10pt/normal arial;font-siz=
e-adjust:none;font-stretch:normal"><b>From:</b>=20
<a title=3D"wrench@attglobal.net" href=3D"mailto:wrench@attglobal.net"; ta=
rget=3D"_blank">John=20
Perkins</a> </div>
<div style=3D"font:10pt/normal arial;font-size-adjust:none;font-stretch:n=
ormal"><b>To:</b> <a title=3D"zmagnette@autox.team.net" href=3D"mailto:zmag=
nette@autox.team.net" target=3D"_blank">List for the Z Magnette Group - Nor=
th=20
America</a> </div>
<div style=3D"font:10pt/normal arial;font-size-adjust:none;font-stretch:n=
ormal"><b>Sent:</b> Friday, December 06, 2013 1:24=20
PM</div>
<div style=3D"font:10pt/normal arial;font-size-adjust:none;font-stretch:n=
ormal"><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Zmagnette] Wiring diagrams=20
and windscreens</div>
<div><br></div>
<div>Allen:<br>=A0=A0=A0 The longest time for=20
me to build the wiring diagram in Visio is the time to build the icons fo=
r the=20
various components to look as much like the original diagram as=20
possible.=A0 Would $2.00 a copy for PDFs be too much?=A0 That way people=
=20
who want to print it can take the PDF to their nearest Kinko's and th=
ose who=20
like to use a PC or tablet could use it electronically.=A0 Also, I will=
=20
need some input about what size most folks would want it to be for printi=
ng=20
and the corrections that need to made.=A0 I know about the wiper motor, a=
nd=20
I'll check about the clock when I get home tonight, are there any mor=
e=20
problems?<br>=A0=A0=A0 Perkins<br>=A0=A0=A0 <br>On 12/6/2013=20
1:30 PM, Allen Bachelder wrote:<br></div>
<blockquote type=3D"cite">Perkins,=20
<div><br></div>
<div>I think your idea sounds like a plan, but I also think you should =
be=20
paid for your time and effort. =A0If you could hang a price tag on the=
=20
completed item, perhaps we could price it out and have folks receive th=
e PDF=20
file once they're paid, or maybe there are a handful of us on the l=
ist who=20
just want to kick in enough that you would be comfortable distributing =
it to=20
all. =A0What works for you?</div>
<div><br></div>
<div>Thanks!</div>
<div>Allen<br>
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<div>On Dec 6, 2013, at 12:51 PM, John Perkins wrote:</div><br>
<blockquote type=3D"cite">
<div text=3D"#000000" bgcolor=3D"#FFFFFF">
<div>Rick and Allen:<br>=A0=A0=A0 As I'm=20
sitting in hotel rooms, I could reproduce the wiring diagram in Visio=
and=20
color the wires in as correct a color as Visio will allow.=A0 Then=20
output it as a PDF file that anyone could print on either 8.5 by 11 o=
r 11=20
by 17 paper.=A0 We could even use this to fix the problem with the=20
wiper motor wiring that is in the factory shop=20
manual.<br>=A0=A0=A0 Perkins<br><br>On 12/6/2013 11:07 AM,=20
Richard Greenberg wrote:<br></div>
<blockquote type=3D"cite">
<div>Allen et al.,</div>
<div><br></div>
<div>Regarding (1): =A0I would be happy to scan the wiring diagrams=
=20
from the shop manual. =A0My scanner is a cheap hp printer, but it=
=20
could produce a workable digital image. =A0Then anyone could print=
=20
and laminate their own from the digital file. =A0</div>
<div><br></div>
<div>If you want an artistic version, suitable for framing, you mig=
ht=20
want to use a better scanner though.</div>
<div><br></div>
<div>Let me know if you want a digital scan.</div>
<div><br></div>
<div>--Rick</div><br>
<div>
<div>On Dec 5, 2013, at 11:28 PM, Allen Bachelder wrote:</div><br>
<blockquote type=3D"cite">
<div style>In=20
a recent phone conversation with one of our own, two concerns aro=
se=20
which I promised to address about a week ago. =A0I apologize for=
=20
the delay, but my past week has been memorable for its interrupti=
ons.=20
=A0=20
<div><br></div>
<div>Two questions:</div>
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urrentColor">
<div>1.) =A0Is there somebody in our noble band who either coul=
d=20
or would be interested in making up enlarged wiring diagrams fo=
r the=20
Magnette. I know there are at least four of them, and maybe som=
e=20
choices would have to be made, but did somebody volunteer that =
they=20
could provide an 11 X 17 wiring diagram copy either laminated o=
r=20
suitable for lamination? If you are not such a person but have=
=20
access to equipment that could produce same, for a PRICE of cou=
rse,=20
I can guaranty you sales of two of these from the get-go. =A0I=
=20
know we discussed this at some time but cannot recall how we le=
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=20
There are those of us who either need one or would buy one as a=
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rica,=20
but I wouldn't wish this task on Steve again for anything.=
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=A0So... can anybody report anything new on this concern?</div>
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<div>Holiday Cheers,</div>
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