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OK, 5# oil pressure tells you it's hemorrhaging some place. If it's a =
bearing, why should just one bearing catastrophically fail? I rather =
like the broken crankshaft theory. A friend of mine had that happen =
recently with his TF. As to repair, you can always get by for some time =
with a minimalist approach if you don't drive it too hard or too much. =
If all you do is take it out on 40 mph club tours - about 500 miles per =
year, then that might be OK. If you want it right, do what it takes to =
make it right. You may have to pull and disassemble quite a bit before =
you have your answer - and by that time, it will not make economic sense =
to put it back together with a minimal repair. Most of us don't want to =
go this way more than once...
OTOH, a friend had to shut his TD down in Kansas on the Rallye to Reno =
due to a horrible clatter that, after a tow back to Michigan, turned out =
to be valve gear banging on an ill-centered valve cover! Of course that =
was not associated with a loss of oil pressure...
FWIW,
Allen
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On Nov 11, 2013, at 7:36 PM, Richard Greenberg wrote:
> Still plenty of oil. After I stopped, I restarted the engine to drive =
it slowly a few hundred feet to a safe spot off the highway. The engine =
has never been rebuilt to my knowledge, but who knows its history? I =
have owned it about 15 years. It has always run fine, although not super =
peppy. =20
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> If it proves to be a bearing, does one just fix the offending bearing, =
or is it a sign that everything is about to need redoing?
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> I haven't had time to look at the rockers or the bearings.
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> --Rick
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> On Nov 11, 2013, at 5:25 PM, Steven Trovato wrote:
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>> Rick,
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>> I think you have to investigate the problem before you can decide on =
a course of action. Sorry for stating the obvious, but there is still =
plenty of oil in there, right? If something failed causing all the oil =
to pour out on that hill, you would have a sudden drop in oil pressure =
and a whole lot of clatter. What is the state of this engine? Recent =
rebuild or old and tired?
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>> -Steve T.
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>> At 06:40 PM 11/11/2013, Richard Greenberg wrote:
>>> Hi all,
>>> This is about my TD, but I bet you folks can help.
>>> I decided to drive the TD, instead of my Magnette, to our =
British car club's annual BBQ. About 25 miles out, running at about 50 =
mph uphill but not too hot, the engine started clattering and the oil =
pressure suddenly dropped to about 5 psi. I had the poor car carried =
home.
>>> Any ideas about what happened? Rod bearing wiped out? Broken =
rocker arm?
>>> If it is one of those things, should I just make the repair, or =
is it time to have the whole engine rejuvenated?
>>> Thanks,
>>> Rick
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-webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; ">OK, =
5# oil pressure tells you it's hemorrhaging some place. If it's a =
bearing, why should just one bearing catastrophically fail? I =
rather like the broken crankshaft theory. A friend of mine had =
that happen recently with his TF. As to repair, you can always get by =
for some time with a minimalist approach if you don't drive it too hard =
or too much. If all you do is take it out on 40 mph club tours - =
about 500 miles per year, then that might be OK. If you want it right, =
do what it takes to make it right. You may have to pull and =
disassemble quite a bit before you have your answer - and by that time, =
it will not make economic sense to put it back together with a minimal =
repair. Most of us don't want to go this way more than =
once...<div><br></div><div>OTOH, a friend had to shut his TD down in =
Kansas on the Rallye to Reno due to a horrible clatter that, after a tow =
back to Michigan, turned out to be valve gear banging on an ill-centered =
valve cover! Of course that was not associated with a loss of oil =
pressure...</div><div><br></div><div>FWIW,</div><div>Allen<br><div>
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<br><div><div>On Nov 11, 2013, at 7:36 PM, Richard Greenberg =
wrote:</div><br class=3D"Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote =
type=3D"cite"><div>Still plenty of oil. After I stopped, I =
restarted the engine to drive it slowly a few hundred feet to a safe =
spot off the highway. The engine has never been rebuilt to my =
knowledge, but who knows its history? I have owned it about 15 years. It =
has always run fine, although not super peppy. <br><br>If it =
proves to be a bearing, does one just fix the offending bearing, or is =
it a sign that everything is about to need redoing?<br><br>I haven't had =
time to look at the rockers or the bearings.<br><br>--Rick<br><br><br>On =
Nov 11, 2013, at 5:25 PM, Steven Trovato wrote:<br><br><blockquote =
type=3D"cite">Rick,<br></blockquote><blockquote =
type=3D"cite"><br></blockquote><blockquote type=3D"cite">I think you =
have to investigate the problem before you can decide on a course of =
action. Sorry for stating the obvious, but there is still =
plenty of oil in there, right? If something failed causing =
all the oil to pour out on that hill, you would have a sudden drop in =
oil pressure and a whole lot of clatter. What is the state of this =
engine? Recent rebuild or old and =
tired?<br></blockquote><blockquote =
type=3D"cite"><br></blockquote><blockquote type=3D"cite">-Steve =
T.<br></blockquote><blockquote type=3D"cite"><br></blockquote><blockquote =
type=3D"cite">At 06:40 PM 11/11/2013, Richard Greenberg =
wrote:<br></blockquote><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote =
type=3D"cite">Hi all,<br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote =
type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"> This is =
about my TD, but I bet you folks can =
help.<br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote =
type=3D"cite"> I decided to drive the TD, =
instead of my Magnette, to our British car club's annual BBQ. =
About 25 miles out, running at about 50 mph uphill but not too =
hot, the engine started clattering and the oil pressure suddenly dropped =
to about 5 psi. I had the poor car carried =
home.<br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote =
type=3D"cite"> Any ideas about what happened? =
Rod bearing wiped out? Broken rocker =
arm?<br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote =
type=3D"cite"> If it is one of those things, =
should I just make the repair, or is it time to have the whole engine =
rejuvenated?<br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote =
type=3D"cite"><blockquote =
type=3D"cite">Thanks,<br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote =
type=3D"cite"><blockquote =
type=3D"cite">Rick<br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote =
type=3D"cite"><br></blockquote><blockquote =
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