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Just be careful with some of this off-brand stuff. The Dewalt system
batteries do not have the battery management system in the battery, it is
in the tool. Not all of the off brand stuff includes this. You must make
sure to carefully monitor your batteries when using this stuff and DO NOT
leave a battery attached when not in use. Learned that the hard way on one
of those USB / Light combos. The USB charger stayed on even if the light
is off and will drain a battery flat eventually. Lithium batteries do not
like this.
On Sun, Mar 2, 2025 at 9:47=E2=80=AFAM Moose <eric@megageek.com> wrote:
> Pat,
>
> I didn't know about the CPO site. Looks cool! (I think I'm going to
> place an order there now.)
>
> As for what I'm talking about, just search Amazon.
>
> Here are some of the most recent things I got that are WAY better than I
> expected.
>
> https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0BC7B7ZBN/ref=3Dppx_yo_dt_b_search_asi=
n_title?ie=3DUTF8&psc=3D1
>
> Great cheap flood light with USB ports. Nice for camping or blackouts.
>
>
> https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0CQX1Q3G9/ref=3Dppx_yo_dt_b_search_asi=
n_title?ie=3DUTF8&psc=3D1
>
> This inverter works great. Lots of flexibility to it.
>
>
>
> https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0CXPJGZC6/ref=3Dppx_yo_dt_b_search_asi=
n_title?ie=3DUTF8&th=3D1
>
> This soldering station is very convenient and heats up FAST!
>
> There are lots of other things that seem to come and go (many of the item=
s
> are no longer listed.)
>
> This are cheap, but for what I need them for, I have never been
> disappointed. The advantage is that I have LOTS of batteries for them an=
d
> it is so great to not have to get other chargers and such.
>
> Moose
>
>
>
>
>
>
> From: Pat Horne <patintexas@icloud.com>
> To: Moose <eric@megageek.com>
> Cc: Shop-talk@autox.team.net
> Date: 03/02/2025 10:01
> Subject: Re: [Shop-talk] Battery impacts, was: weak impact
> ------------------------------
>
>
>
> Moose, for decades I=E2=80=99ve worshiped @ the church of DeWalt. For the=
last
> couple decades I=E2=80=99ve purchased mostly refurbished tools from CPO O=
utlets.
> Everything has looked new, sometimes in factory packaging. About half new
> price.
>
> Can you provide any land of the rising sun brand names or where to find
> them please?
>
> Here endith the reading.
>
> Peace, Pat
>
> Pat Horne
> We support Habitat for Humanity
>
>
> On Mar 2, 2025, at 8:46=E2=80=AFAM, Moose <eric@megageek.com> wrote:
>
> =EF=BB=BFScott, you are treading on 'religious ground' with this question=
. 8>)
>
> Here is my take...
>
> Dewalt has the most tools and is really solid. (Except their chainsaw!)
>
> Milwaukee is pretty much top of the heap, but expensive and don't have as
> many different tools.
>
> All other brands are less costly and have a great selection, but seem to
> be more 'consumer' than 'professional.'
>
> My way is to go Dewalt for most things and do Milwaukee for the stuff the=
y
> are WAY better at. (chainsaws, pole trimmers, etc.)
>
> Also note, the land of the rising sun is now making tons of tools that ar=
e
> compatible with Dewalt and Milwaukee's batteries. These tools are super
> cheap (both in quality and price) but really extend the offerings of both
> brands. Tons of options for lights, inverters, etc.
>
> Amen.
>
> Moose
>
>
>
> From: Scott Hall <scott.hall.personal@gmail.com>
> To: "shop-talk@autox.team.net" <Shop-talk@autox.team.net>
> Date: 03/01/2025 18:13
> Subject: [Shop-talk] Battery impacts, was: weak impact
> Sent by: "Shop-talk" <shop-talk-bounces@autox.team.net>
> ------------------------------
>
>
>
> Followed all the suggestions, still not budging the lug nuts. It's runnin=
g
> off a regular yellow coiled air line, straight from the compressor tank.
>
> Everyone is so bullish on the battery impacts maybe I need one.
>
> So...which one? I didn't have any other battery tools (lost in the same
> fire that got my air tools), so I don't have an existing battery ecosyste=
m
> I want to use.
>
> Twenty years ago I had a Milwaukee 18v impact that was no more impressive
> than the 2131 and I didn't use it except at the track. I assume they've
> improved since then.
>
> Are they all about the same or is one clearly better than the others?
>
> Thanks fellas.
>
> Scott _______________________________________________
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<div dir=3D"ltr">Just be careful=C2=A0with some of this off-brand stuff.=C2=
=A0 The Dewalt system batteries do not have the battery management system i=
n the battery, it is in the tool.=C2=A0 Not all of the off brand stuff incl=
udes this.=C2=A0 You must make sure to carefully monitor your batteries whe=
n using this stuff and DO NOT leave a battery attached when not in use.=C2=
=A0 Learned that the hard way on one of those USB / Light combos.=C2=A0 The=
USB charger stayed on even if the light is off and will drain a battery fl=
at eventually.=C2=A0 Lithium batteries do not like this.</div><br><div clas=
s=3D"gmail_quote gmail_quote_container"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_att=
r">On Sun, Mar 2, 2025 at 9:47=E2=80=AFAM Moose <<a href=3D"mailto:eric@=
megageek.com">eric@megageek.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=
=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rg=
b(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><font size=3D"2" face=3D"sans-serif">Pat, =
</font>
<br>
<br><font size=3D"2" face=3D"sans-serif">I didn't know about the CPO si=
te.=C2=A0 Looks
cool! =C2=A0(I think I'm going to place an order there now.)</font>
<br>
<br><font size=3D"2" face=3D"sans-serif">As for what I'm talking about,=
just
search Amazon.</font>
<br><font size=3D"2" face=3D"sans-serif"><br>
Here are some of the most recent things I got that are WAY better than
I expected.</font>
<br><a href=3D"https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0BC7B7ZBN/ref=3Dppx_yo_dt=
_b_search_asin_title?ie=3DUTF8&psc=3D1" target=3D"_blank"><font size=3D=
"2" color=3D"blue" face=3D"sans-serif">https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0=
BC7B7ZBN/ref=3Dppx_yo_dt_b_search_asin_title?ie=3DUTF8&psc=3D1</font></=
a>
<br>
<br><font size=3D"2" face=3D"sans-serif">Great cheap flood light with USB p=
orts.
=C2=A0Nice for camping or blackouts.</font>
<br>
<br><a href=3D"https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0CQX1Q3G9/ref=3Dppx_yo_dt=
_b_search_asin_title?ie=3DUTF8&psc=3D1" target=3D"_blank"><font size=3D=
"2" color=3D"blue" face=3D"sans-serif">https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0=
CQX1Q3G9/ref=3Dppx_yo_dt_b_search_asin_title?ie=3DUTF8&psc=3D1</font></=
a>
<br>
<br><font size=3D"2" face=3D"sans-serif">This inverter works great.=C2=A0 L=
ots
of flexibility to it. </font>
<br>
<br>
<br><a href=3D"https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0CXPJGZC6/ref=3Dppx_yo_dt=
_b_search_asin_title?ie=3DUTF8&th=3D1" target=3D"_blank"><font size=3D"=
2" color=3D"blue" face=3D"sans-serif">https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0C=
XPJGZC6/ref=3Dppx_yo_dt_b_search_asin_title?ie=3DUTF8&th=3D1</font></a>
<br>
<br><font size=3D"2" face=3D"sans-serif">This soldering station is very con=
venient
and heats up FAST!</font>
<br>
<br><font size=3D"2" face=3D"sans-serif">There are lots of other things tha=
t
seem to come and go (many of the items are no longer listed.)</font>
<br>
<br><font size=3D"2" face=3D"sans-serif">This are cheap, but for what I nee=
d
them for, I have never been disappointed.=C2=A0 The advantage is that I
have LOTS of batteries for them and it is so great to not have to get other
chargers and such.</font>
<br>
<br><font size=3D"2" face=3D"sans-serif">Moose</font>
<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
<br><font size=3D"1" color=3D"#5f5f5f" face=3D"sans-serif">From: =C2=A0 =C2=
=A0 =C2=A0
=C2=A0</font><font size=3D"1" face=3D"sans-serif">Pat Horne <<a href=3D"=
mailto:patintexas@icloud.com"; target=3D"_blank">patintexas@icloud.com</a>&g=
t;</font>
<br><font size=3D"1" color=3D"#5f5f5f" face=3D"sans-serif">To: =C2=A0 =C2=
=A0 =C2=A0
=C2=A0</font><font size=3D"1" face=3D"sans-serif">Moose <<a href=3D"mail=
to:eric@megageek.com" target=3D"_blank">eric@megageek.com</a>></font>
<br><font size=3D"1" color=3D"#5f5f5f" face=3D"sans-serif">Cc: =C2=A0 =C2=
=A0 =C2=A0
=C2=A0</font><font size=3D"1" face=3D"sans-serif"><a href=3D"mailto:Shop-ta=
lk@autox.team.net" target=3D"_blank">Shop-talk@autox.team.net</a></font>
<br><font size=3D"1" color=3D"#5f5f5f" face=3D"sans-serif">Date: =C2=A0 =C2=
=A0 =C2=A0
=C2=A0</font><font size=3D"1" face=3D"sans-serif">03/02/2025 10:01</font>
<br><font size=3D"1" color=3D"#5f5f5f" face=3D"sans-serif">Subject: =C2=A0 =
=C2=A0
=C2=A0 =C2=A0</font><font size=3D"1" face=3D"sans-serif">Re: [Shop-talk]
Battery impacts, was: weak impact</font>
<br>
<hr noshade>
<br>
<br>
<br><font size=3D"3">Moose, for decades I=E2=80=99ve worshiped @ the church=
of DeWalt.
For the last couple decades I=E2=80=99ve purchased mostly refurbished tools=
from
CPO Outlets. Everything has looked new, sometimes in factory packaging.
About half new price. </font>
<br>
<br><font size=3D"3">Can you provide any land of the rising sun brand names
or where to find them please?</font>
<br>
<br><font size=3D"3">Here endith the reading. </font>
<br>
<br><font size=3D"3">Peace, Pat</font>
<br>
<br><font size=3D"3">Pat Horne </font>
<br><font size=3D"3">We support Habitat for Humanity</font>
<br>
<br><font size=3D"3"><br>
On Mar 2, 2025, at 8:46=E2=80=AFAM, Moose <<a href=3D"mailto:eric@megage=
ek.com" target=3D"_blank">eric@megageek.com</a>> wrote:<br>
</font>
<br><font size=3D"3">=EF=BB=BF</font><font size=3D"2" face=3D"sans-serif">S=
cott, you are
treading on 'religious ground' with this question. =C2=A08>)</fo=
nt><font size=3D"3">
<br>
</font><font size=3D"2" face=3D"sans-serif"><br>
Here is my take...</font><font size=3D"3"> <br>
</font><font size=3D"2" face=3D"sans-serif"><br>
Dewalt has the most tools and is really solid. =C2=A0(Except their chainsaw=
!)</font><font size=3D"3">
<br>
</font><font size=3D"2" face=3D"sans-serif"><br>
Milwaukee is pretty much top of the heap, but expensive and don't have
as many different tools.</font><font size=3D"3"> <br>
</font><font size=3D"2" face=3D"sans-serif"><br>
All other brands are less costly and have a great selection, but seem to
be more 'consumer' than 'professional.'</font><font size=3D=
"3"> <br>
</font><font size=3D"2" face=3D"sans-serif"><br>
My way is to go Dewalt for most things and do Milwaukee for the stuff they
are WAY better at. =C2=A0(chainsaws, pole trimmers, etc.)</font><font size=
=3D"3">
<br>
</font><font size=3D"2" face=3D"sans-serif"><br>
Also note, the land of the rising sun is now making tons of tools that
are compatible with Dewalt and Milwaukee's batteries.=C2=A0 These tools
are super cheap (both in quality and price) but really extend the offerings
of both brands. Tons of options for lights, inverters, etc.</font><font siz=
e=3D"3">
<br>
</font><font size=3D"2" face=3D"sans-serif"><br>
Amen.</font><font size=3D"3"> <br>
</font><font size=3D"2" face=3D"sans-serif"><br>
Moose</font><font size=3D"3"> <br>
<br>
<br>
</font><font size=3D"1" color=3D"#5f5f5f" face=3D"sans-serif"><br>
From: =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0</font><font size=3D"1" face=3D"sans-serif=
">Scott
Hall <<a href=3D"mailto:scott.hall.personal@gmail.com"; target=3D"_blank"=
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Battery impacts, was: weak impact</font><font size=3D"3"> </font><font size=
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<hr noshade><font size=3D"3"><br>
<br>
<br>
Followed all the suggestions, still not budging the lug nuts. It's runn=
ing
off a regular yellow coiled air line, straight from the compressor tank.
=C2=A0<br>
<br>
Everyone is so bullish on the battery impacts maybe I need one. =C2=A0<br>
<br>
So...which one? I didn't have any other battery tools (lost in the same
fire that got my air tools), so I don't have an existing battery ecosys=
tem
I want to use. =C2=A0<br>
<br>
Twenty years ago I had a Milwaukee 18v impact that was no more impressive
than the 2131 and I didn't use it except at the track. I assume they=
9;ve
improved since then. =C2=A0<br>
<br>
Are they all about the same or is one clearly better than the others? =C2=
=A0<br>
<br>
Thanks fellas. =C2=A0<br>
<br>
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