john donohoe wrote:
>
> Hello Capt'n Larsen (Svensk eler Norsk?),
>
> thank you for your reply...
>
> I'm in Michigan and this is the first early Seven I've
> seen advertised locally.
>
> I'm wary because I've learned that the previous owner
> has traded the car back to the dealer from whom he
> bought it two years ago. And that owner also is the
> one who registered it with John Watson of the Seven
> registry.
John Watson has a copy of the factory specification.
Mike does too. John solicited current information
from owners to add to his archive. Those who registered
added our information to the existing records.
>
> Furthermore, the dealer (whom the previous owner
> describes as "Mr Lotus Seven") specifically told me
> that the VIN (body/chassis) number should match the
> Frame number.
Nope. The frame number will indicate whether it was
built by Progress Chassis or Arch Motors. There may
have been a third frame builder, this isn't clear in
my memory.
To quote Robert Plant (Led Zeppelin)
> "Ooooh, it makes me wonder"
>
> Thanks for the input, you can bet that I'll be eager
> to share my good fortune if all turns out well and I
> happen to buy the car.
One of the coolest things about owning a Lotus is
Lotus owners. I met Flemming on the Lotus List
around 1994. Met Mike around 1988. Great people.
There are many more out there that I haven't met
in person but will some day.
>
> I look forward to "the list" to provide me with
> guidance and help in the future.
>
> best regards,
> John Donohoe
> (hopefully soon to be owner of SB1135)
>
> --- Flemming Larsen <flarsen@earthlink.net> wrote:
> > Hi Steve and John,
> >
> > Early Sevens had the chassis number on a plate
> > brazed or welded
> > to the crossmember in front of one of the seats.
> >
> > Later Sevens, like my 1964 Series II, has the
> > chassis number stamped
> > on the short bracket where the master cylinders are
> > mounted. Mine is
> > right next to the upright where the accelerator
> > cable is mounted.
> >
> > Chassis number is not the same as the VIN. My VIN is
> > SB1825, and
> > my chassis number is B1644.
> >
> > I am Cc:ing Mike Ostrov on this reply.
> >
> > John, where are you located?
> >
> > Mike Ostrov and I are both in the S.F. Bay Area,
> > northern east bay.
> >
> > Mike's shop was recently burglarized, so I can't
> > give more accurate
> > information than that, but contact Mike for driving
> > information, if
> > you should happen to be in the area.
> >
> > -- Flemming Larsen, Capt'n 1964 Lotus Seven
> > Series II, SB1825
> >
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: owner-chapman-era@autox.team.net
> > > [mailto:owner-chapman-era@autox.team.net]On Behalf
> > Of Steven Shipley
> > > Sent: Wednesday, August 02, 2000 17:38
> > > To: john donohoe
> > > Cc: chapman-era@autox.team.net
> > > Subject: Re: Early Seven Frame Number Detail
> > >
> > >
> > > If you've been in touch with John Watson you can
> > believe
> > > what he says. Unfortunately, we only know what we
> > can
> > > see on today's examples and there isn't any
> > consistency.
> > >
> > > For instance, in a prior life, I'd question a
> > scratched
> > > in chassis number, but I've seen that before.
> > >
> > > I generally expect to see the frame number stamped
> > on
> > > the framework of the pedal box, hidden by the
> > master
> > > cylinder. But I have never been able to find a
> > > frame number on my car, while my engine number
> > matches
> > > the factory numbers.
> > >
> > > I've decided that there is a lot of variation. If
> > your
> > > example is original, it should be similar to like
> > aged
> > > vehicles. Whether your differences are factory or
> > end
> > > user installed it's difficult to tell.
> > >
> > > Have you discussed this with Mike Ostrov?
> > >
> > > Regards,
> > > Steve Shipley
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > john donohoe wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Hello.
> > > >
> > > > would anyone with a late S1 or Early S2 please
> > > > describe to me the exact placement and
> > appearance of
> > > > the FRAME number?
> > > >
> > > > I'm looking at a Seven that's presented as a '62
> > early
> > > > S2. Its VIN plate is hand scribed "B1135" but
> > I'm
> > > > having trouble making sense of the Chassis
> > number,
> > > > which seems to appear on a small (1x1.5 inch)
> > plates
> > > > welded to the top of the frame rail in front of
> > the
> > > > passenger (left in this case) seat.
> > > >
> > > > John Watson of the Seven registry tells me that
> > the
> > > > number I can make out on this plate "135" is not
> > even
> > > > close to what his build sheet for 1135 says it
> > should
> > > > be!
> > > >
> > > > If anyone has a clue, or could confirm how a
> > typical
> > > > FRAME number should appear, I'd greatly
> > appreciate it!
> > > >
> > > > regards,
> > > > John Donohoe
> > > >
> > > >
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